Had one of those "water cooler" confrontations with right wingers at work today. Great fun.

[RBInMaine]

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Well, one of 'em started it all. Knowing my opinions, he said, "I can't wait until 2016 because I'm retiring and Obama will be gone. He's such an idiot." Opened the door, and I ran right in. I let him and his cohort have it with "Ya, we could go back to destroying the country like under Bush who squandered the Clinton surplus, exploded the debt, and ran the country into the ground with THE GREAT REPUBLICAN RECESSION. Obama has cut the deficit in half, saved the auto industry, and has 44 straight months of job growth. That's the facts whether you like it or not. Now if you want a political fight, I'll give you one."

Of course I knew I was talking to a bag of hammers who watch Fake Noise Idiocy Channel and listen to Oxy-Boy Rush as they stood scowling.

Then one of course went into attack mode and insulted me personally. I told him "Ya, keep listening to Rush Limbaugh, the DRUG ADDICT where you get your information." That guy then huffed away.

Then another right winger joined in and they started up, of course, about ObamaCare and how terrible that was. I then said very emphatically, "What is the Republican health insurance reform plan?" No answer. Blank stares. I said it again. No answer. Then one said, "Well they need to get jobs." I said, "Yup, in other words you have no plan. No answer. You're bankrupt on the entire issue, of course. Case closed."

Then one said, "Well I get my healthcare from the military." I then replied, "Ya, in other words PURE SOCIALISM. Nothing is more SOCIALIST than the military." Then he huffed away.

Then I had to get back to work.

Never, ever, ever back down to right wingers. They are empty-headed and bankrupt. Another colleague of mine recently BLASTED a couple of STUPID climate change deniers. They slunked off with their pathetic numb tails between their legs. BASH them HARD. Never back down. They are numb-minded Rush Limbaugh lovers and nothing more. SAY SO !

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

1. Good job, but....

....these assholes are the first to complain to HR.

[RBInMaine]

3. Nah. They started it, and they are the ones who insulted me. I'd blow them away if they tried.

[chervilant]

25. Okay, here's some good ammunition for you:

My boss was ranting about how much welfare fraudsters are costing the taxpayers. I went home, researched the estimates for welfare fraud (annually, posted by the feds) and the estimates for how much the criminal bankers cost us in 2008. I used the highest welfare fraud figure I could find, and the lowest estimate for the 2008 debacle. Using those figures, I determined that it would take over 500 years for the welfare fraudsters to cost the US taxpayers as much as the criminal bankers did (and, I didn't even break out the corporate welfare fraudsters!). When I shared this info with my boss, he just went silent and walked away. Thankfully, since that interaction, he's stopped throwing right wing bullshit at me.

[busterbrown]

41. Good job!! N/t

[RBInMaine]

45. Good one ! Hit them HARD with the FACTS.

[marble falls]

2. As one of those benifiaries of one of the biggest socialist health care systems in the world(VA) ...

you hammered the nail dead on the head. Its the least we should do for everyone. Don't back up an inch!

[RBInMaine]

4. Nothing makes a right winger's head explode better than calling him a "SOCIALIST"! Here's how:

Tell the right-winger, "YOU ARE A SOCIALIST !" When he of course shakes his head, say "Do you like the military?" They'll say yes. Then say, "It's PURE SOCIALISM. Totally government funded jobs, food, clothes, and HEALTHCARE. In fact, the military and VA hospitals are our ONLY TRULY socialized medicine. You also love SS, Medicare, Bush's Socialist Medicare D bill, public roads, public schools, public parks, public police and fire department, etc. YOU ARE A SOCIALIST AND YOU CAN'T DENY IT." When they try to refute, just say, "You're a socialist, you're a socialist, you're a socialist,..." and just say that over and over again until they huff away. ALWAYS WORKS !

[marble falls]

6. They can't handle the truth or being handled like they treat others.

[eridani]

20. Socialism? I'd say it was an absolutely pure Communist totalitarian dictatorship

Not only does the government give them everything they need, but it dictates most aspects of their daily lives.

[treestar]

47. Yes, especially by their own views of socialism

Any government involvement whatsoever and they will label it "socialism." So by their standards, the roads and military are socialism.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

55. Yep. And don't just stop there. Tell them that if the expect to receive Medicare, they're

the biggest hypocrites ever! If you guys live in a RED state, the BLUE states are largely responsible for redistributing the wealth to poor, unemployed, uninsured RED-staters.

When ReThugs shut down the government unnecessarily, they wasted $24 billion. Will they ever be held accountable for that??

[narnian60]

5. Love the great comeback----

"Well, they need to get jobs." Idiot.

[Curmudgeoness]

7. Yep, and the ones who already have jobs

with no health insurance, well, they need to get BETTER jobs.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

10. The myth on the Right is "Obamacare" is free healthcare for black people paid for by white people.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

57. That's what it is and how the ReThugs have always been able to encourage most

Whites to vote for them: convince them that government is there primarily to serve the interests of black people who are too lazy (and never as smart or determined) to do for themselves. This is the message that I--as a black person, and especially a black woman--and blacks in general have received from conservatives/Rethugs all our lives! Nothing has changed. Rethugs are still using racially coded language--food stamps, unemployment benefits, etc. these safety net interventions require recipients to be actively looking for a job and/or be involved in some kind of job training or education/vocational program. But, the Rethugs continue to use race as a buffer to get poor and middle class whites to vote against their best interests, even if they too receive public assistance. Rethugs are convinced that if they are able to successfully exploit racial prejudices that many whites harbor against people of color--whether they realize it or not--they can get them to vote Rethuglican.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

58. They've also convinced some poorly paid white people that they would be RICH if not for taxes.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

59. Yes, taxes going to pay for "free stuff given to blacks and Hispanics" who don't work...

...and therefore don't deserve it. It's sick!!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

60. Did you catch the Right Wing version of the Housing Crisis?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

61. Yes. All day, every day. See, I work for HUD, and hear that it was the CRA that was

responsible. In other words, making it easier for people of color to own homes in their neighborhood of choice led to the crisis. And don't forget Fannie and Freddie! Damn!! I didn't know we negroes had that much power to bring down an entire world economy!!!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

62. An entire WHITE world economy. >;-)

[ErikJ]

8. You're a great debater and writer. Keep it up! nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

9. I do that every chance I get,....just for fun.

[Brigid]

42. Everybody needs a hobby!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

44. Hey,...fraging fuckwits is a GREAT RPG.

[RoccoR5955]

11. Keep fighting the good fight

When you have FACTS on your side, you always win!

[ailsagirl]

17. I dunno-- the repukes don't put much stock in facts

They're such dummies

[caledesi]

12. You showed them that the Dems are finally fighting back. nt

[calimary]

21. As we MUST! We absolutely MUST. NEVER let them get the last word!

Never let their addle-brained and wrong-headed and horribly mis-informed statements of "fact" stand. NEVER let them stand. They always have to be answered, denounced, and debunked. Who knows? Your rebuttals just might be the first time any of these folks heard the other (our) side.

[JHB]

13. Actually, the Republicans DID have a plan...

...put out by the Heritage Foundation. It's the one they're now calling "Obamacare".

[awoke_in_2003]

28. yep. nt

[treestar]

48. Not the tea partier republicans of today

as can be seen in their zealous opposition to Obamacare.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

14. It's so tiring but you just have to throw a wrench in their gears every time they start that shit.

[RBInMaine]

22. Yep, you won't change their narrow brainwashed minds, but it is FUN to make them FUME.

[DavidDvorkin]

15. You could have pointed out that Obama won't be gone in 2016.

[ailsagirl]

16. Good job!!

I discovered, too late, that my healthcare broker is a repuke. When I told him I was a Dem, he became very cool toward me, whereas he had been nice before. Figures.

The tipoff was that he takes breaks by eating a sandwich and turning on Fox Noise.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

18. that was great!!!!!!!

You did a great job of summarizing perfect answers to them. I usually go blank because I get bogged down in details and trying to remember specifics while I'm stunned at the magnitude of the ignorance. How do you even address people who are so basically, fundamentally, pervasively, relentlessly, self-righteously deluded?

........then they change the subject and I'm grinding my gears again. Sooooo frustrating.

[RBInMaine]

23. When at a loss you can always say, "This is fun, but I'm not going to waste time trying to talk to

people who scrape the bottom of the information barrel getting by their talking points from the Drug Addict Rush Limbaugh and the Bimbos at the FAKE NEWS NETWORK.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

24. that works.

[busterbrown]

43. I’m like you.. But I always somehow remember that Bush...

started the Iraqi war without paying for it.. Costs to this point over 6 trillion...Borrowed.
395 billion for Bush’s Medicare Drug program over 10 years...Borrowed
Tax cuts for top 10% cost country 2 trillion bucks in revenue..

Then I point to forbe’s article stating that Obama is small spending administration since Eisenhower..

[RBInMaine]

52. I think Medicare-D was more like $600billion. But double check.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

19. Facts and reality have a liberal bias!

[No Vested Interest]

26. Good for you, RB, for being well-informed on issues.

One needs good info to be able to speak up with authority to the Know-Nothings.

[NBachers]

27. You make their brainal hemorrhoids flare up cherry-hot.

[RBInMaine]

35. "Brainal Hemorrhoids" hahahahaha...

[Ganja Ninja]

29. "Well I get my healthcare from the military."

So he's another freeloader sponging off the tax payers? Get a job Hippie!

[doc03]

30. I have been using the socialism thing on them lately. When they start on

on Obamacare say, " So you want to go back to socialism then?". When they give you that blank look
and ask you what you are talking about tell them now when people go to the emergency room or a doctor
the taxpayers don't
pay for it they have insurance.

[RBInMaine]

36. I think you mean "The taxpayers pay for it if they don't have insurance." :-)

[The Wizard]

31. I like to ask them for

empirical data that supports their assertions. Usually followed by the sound of crickets and some drooling.

[RBInMaine]

50. Yup. Once you take them outside their talking point comfort zone, they shut up FAST.

[arcane1]

33. Shouldn't you be tricking a duck into thinking you want to fuck it?

[blkmusclmachine]

34. Faux is brainwashing, pure and simple.

8vP

[Gman]

37. It's fun to toy with them to get the blank stares.

But I tire of wasting good time on them after a while.

[RBInMaine]

51. Just blind them with science, definitions, and numbers. They stare stupidly and huff away.

[toby jo]

38. Good for you. I work with em, too. After awhile, they stop throwing shit at you because you can

handle it and throw it back at em.

I think the women are even more ignorant than the men. They always seem meaner, too.

[RBInMaine]

49. A woman colleague of mine recently laid out a woman climate change denier. It was wonderful.

[mnhtnbb]

53. I participate on another board where a woman made a big joke recently

about her "blistering cold butt" haha and "where's global warming?".

I put up a science lesson with a couple of links to very plainly, simply
written explanations of the difference between climate change and
weather and the effect of one on the other. Just reamed her ass. Then somebody else came on
the board and did the same thing!

She comes back with "oh, I know about climate change. I was just
making a joke." Right. I know she listens to Limbaugh, and no way
was I letting her get away with her 'joke'.

Good for you!

[RBInMaine]

54. Good for you. The dimwits need to be set straight.

[bmichaelh]

39. ACA

Also, I recently had a run in with something similar.

Wingnut says: "If you want health insurance, get a job.""

Below is a a fact for which they have no answer.

Every year (pre-ACA), the insurance companies increase premiums or require more out of pocket for the insurers.
Or they drop more people from their client base.
Or if you suffer a catastrophic illness such as cancer, they send out health investigators to see if they can deny coverage.
The effect is that less Americans are covered each year not more.
How is this economic model sustainable for the future.

They have no answer.

[RBInMaine]

46. Good one.

[12ZTR]

40. Great comment!

If one wants to get the Right Wing's attention,Get into their wallet,Boycott all their businesses.

WHERE HAS EVERYONE BEEN SPENDING THEIR MONEY? But it's OK to continue to spend against your own interest,Free Country.
I really need some help,I can't find the definition of hypocrisy on them there interwebs.

I do everything possible to not allow any Right Winger to profit from my spending even though I know some will.

Merry Right Wing Profit Making Christmas to all.

[Sunlei]

56. may be fun but I don't ever discuss politics at work or with customers.

[RBInMaine]

63. If right wing co-workers start the shit, then FINISH IT ! Don't back down. SMASH THEM HARD !

These fuckers are the ones who START it. THE very problem is progressives taking the non-existent "high road" time and again. That is like allowing a bully to stand there and punch you in the face. The ONLY way to respond to bullies is to SMASH THEM DOWN HARDER than they hit you. It is the ONLY way. Unless you enjoy punishment. SMASH THEM APART! It works, and next time they'll think long and hard before they do it again. I don't go looking for fights, but I sure as hell finish them !