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Related: About this forumWhen Sovereign Citizens Snap
Police came to evict Mark Kulisand found a home wired to explode. Its the latest incident for a movement that rejects the government, with members who have been turning to violence.
Sheriffs deputies waited until Mark Kulis left home before delivering eviction papers to his house Wednesday. Theyd heard reports the 55-year-old was dangerous, but they didnt expect that his house in Ohios Franklin County would be. Kuliss oven was booby-trapped with an explosive, and there were four more in his bedroom closet, and even more bomb-making materials scattered throughout the house, according to police reports. Scrawled across the walls and ceilings of his home were names of politicians, including President Obama and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, and declarations of sovereignty. When the police found and arrested Kulis, he was at a car wash half a mile from his house, armed with a loaded Colt .38-caliber revolver. (Kulis was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and manufacturing dangerous ordnance; a lawyer for Kulis couldnt be reached for comment.)
At the time that Kulis was meant to be evicted, there was a probate warrant pending to take him to an emergency mental-health center. He also considered himself a sovereign citizen. Whether one thing had anything to do with the other is undetermined, but Kuliss scrawlings affiliated him with a 200,000- to 500,000-member movement that the FBI has called one of Americas leading domestic terrorist threats. Members of the movement are united by the belief that they should not be required to obey laws or pay taxes if they dont want to (and they usually dont want to).
Sovereign citizens are notoriously more litigious than they are violent, willing to engage in lengthy legal battles and flood local court systems with hundreds of pages of filings written in their own nonsensical languagejust to avoid paying a simple parking ticket or for a dog license. They have used legal documents as a weapon against enemies, filing fake tax forms or property liens to get a foe audited, destroy their credit, or sabotage a property sale.
One sovereign citizen named Robert Carr was indicted by a grand jury in December of last year for attempting to steal 11 Cincinnati area homes by breaking in, changing the locks, and filing secret court documents to claim ownership.
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When Sovereign Citizens Snap (Original Post)
DonViejo
Jan 2014
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JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)1. 200,000 to 500,000 like minded lunatics? That's distressing.
tblue
(16,350 posts)2. Criminally insane
Definitely 5150. This is domestic terrorism and insanity. Get them off the street. They need professional help.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)3. No doubt on the 5150
The guy should be given mental health treatment, then put on trial when he is sane. It's a good thing the police knew what was waiting for them. That is just insane.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)4. Much of it is merely indoctrination, I'm sure.
Like religion.
"My daddy and mommy told me this so it's true, forever."