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egbertowillies

(4,058 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 01:42 PM Feb 2014

Krystal Ball Will Not Cave To The Seasoned Pundits: She still says 'Run Elizabeth Warren Run’(VIDEO)



A couple of weeks ago Krystal Ball suggested on her Krystal Clear segment that Hillary Clinton should not run. Her contention was that Hillary Clinton was too close to Wall Street. She also scolded Hillary Clinton for implying it was fool hearted to pile on about the excesses of the titans of finance. Krystal Ball wanted Elizabeth Warren to run.

http://egbertowillies.com/2014/02/26/krystal-ball-elizabeth-warren-clinton/
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Krystal Ball Will Not Cave To The Seasoned Pundits: She still says 'Run Elizabeth Warren Run’(VIDEO) (Original Post) egbertowillies Feb 2014 OP
too late! RedstDem Feb 2014 #1
Yup. HappyMe Feb 2014 #2
Thanks for that video, egberto. Krystal Ball NAILS it! nt rdharma Feb 2014 #3
Waiting for the primary to see who Obama and Biden campaign for... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #4
They won't campaign for anyone. Arkana Feb 2014 #6
Ted Kennedy campaigned for Obama during the primary, IIRC But he wasn't POTUS. nt freshwest Feb 2014 #7
Exactly. Obama's the head of the party and cannot be seen to take sides Arkana Feb 2014 #14
Then we can't wait for them to speak. And I'm not getting the feeling Biden wants the job. nt freshwest Feb 2014 #19
I think that Biden said on The View HappyMe Feb 2014 #20
I heard that too. And then, we have 2014 to get through, with elections all year. freshwest Feb 2014 #21
2014 is very important HappyMe Feb 2014 #22
Biden has been an asset as VP, but he didn't exactly light the world on fire geek tragedy Feb 2014 #23
No, he's s a good man but I don't think he wants it that much. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #25
Why is her response to pundits at all relevant? brooklynite Feb 2014 #5
lift a finger rtracey Feb 2014 #11
I think Krystal is doing an RFK here DFW Feb 2014 #8
WHAT??? Krystal isn't buying into the "inevitability" meme? nt antigop Feb 2014 #9
I want Mrs. Clinton and the Leader Ds to wait as long as possible and keep Rs guessing. Sunlei Feb 2014 #10
Mrs. Warren warrior1 Feb 2014 #12
Ms. Ball is simply telling it like it is. Sen Warren's policies are very popular. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #13
Can't you leave her where she is? I'm so goddamn sick of special elections... Arkana Feb 2014 #15
Sorry, not if the choice is H. Clinton-Sachs. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #16
Well said. HappyMe Feb 2014 #17
Thanks for the tip of the hat. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #18
I would LOVE to be able to vote for a REAL Democrat again. bvar22 Feb 2014 #24
Does Warren have a say in this matter or is she going to be hogtied and pushed on stage? Beacool Feb 2014 #26
Seriously. This is getting ridiculous. nt stevenleser Feb 2014 #30
K&R for a Warren candidacy! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #27
Cave? Krystal's fight is not with the pundits, it's with Elizabeth Warren who is not running. stevenleser Feb 2014 #28
Someday people will realize that Elizabeth Warren isn't a bullshitter, she doesn't equivocate Rowdyboy Feb 2014 #29
Krystal Ball is a corrupt ninny greatlaurel Feb 2014 #31
Which good reasons are those, you know since you are paying attention? TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #32
greatlaurel...You nailed it! nt Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #35
Warren couldnt nationally mgcgulfcoast Feb 2014 #33
I liked Krystal Ball until she made that speech...I don't any longer. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #34

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
6. They won't campaign for anyone.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 03:12 PM
Feb 2014

The President will (and should) stay out of it until there is a nominee.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
14. Exactly. Obama's the head of the party and cannot be seen to take sides
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 04:56 PM
Feb 2014

unless one candidate does something so egregiously bad that he's forced to step in.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
20. I think that Biden said on The View
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:42 PM
Feb 2014

that he had not decided just yet, but wasn't ruling a run out.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
21. I heard that too. And then, we have 2014 to get through, with elections all year.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:49 PM
Feb 2014

No use getting off course when there will be no one to enact a Democratic agenda from the White House without numbers. And Obama has said to focus on the states, but the media and those who don't like him want a horse race now to get us off the main topic. EOM.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. Biden has been an asset as VP, but he didn't exactly light the world on fire
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:26 PM
Feb 2014

when he ran for President in 2008.

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
5. Why is her response to pundits at all relevant?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 03:01 PM
Feb 2014

The person who's opinion IS relevant is Elizabeth Warren. She DOES NOT WANT TO RUN, and is encouraging Clinton to do so. Since, apparently, nobody (especially here) will lift a finger to convince her otherwise, what Krystal or anyone else thinks about how good she'd be is pointless.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
11. lift a finger
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 03:53 PM
Feb 2014

Why would we even try. Elizabeth Warren has come out several times and said she would not run for president this election cycle. She is a very important part of the banking committee right now and she wants to keep up the fight on that end....

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. I want Mrs. Clinton and the Leader Ds to wait as long as possible and keep Rs guessing.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

I'm positive Mrs Clinton will fully back whoever runs.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
13. Ms. Ball is simply telling it like it is. Sen Warren's policies are very popular.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 04:56 PM
Feb 2014

But that only matters if we live in a true Constitutionally run Representative Democracy, which we really dont. With gerrymandering, disenfranchisement of voters, actual vote stealing, Citizens United, and IMO some behind the scenes strong-arming, we really dont have a representative government. We are allowed to vote, but usually our choices are between Corp-Thing 1 and Corp-Thing 2. In some countries they only get one choice to vote for president. We are much more fortunate, we get a choice of two. Both brought to you by Wall Street.

To those of you that keep repeating, ad nauseum, that Sen Warren isnt running. Who are you trying to convince and why? Ms. Ball speaks for a lot of us that are speaking out and saying that Sen Warren speaks for us and we wish that she would run. I will continue to wish that she runs unless another progressive comes forward. I will not participate in the best of evils game the PTB corner us into playing. "rhett dont play that game."

If you so called centrists (read conservatives) dont want another Bush in the White House, then nominate someone more progressive than H. Clinton-Sachs, the sweetheart of Wall Street. Otherwise, it's all on you. No blaming Ralph Nader. Nominate someone the whole country can support, someone like Sen Warren.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. I would LOVE to be able to vote for a REAL Democrat again.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

Just having her in the Primaries will force the National Discussion way to The Left.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
26. Does Warren have a say in this matter or is she going to be hogtied and pushed on stage?
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:57 AM
Feb 2014

I guess the fact that even her bundler has said that she has no intention of running for president is not convincing to her supporters. They want to drag her into the limelight of presidential politics whether she likes it or not.






 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
28. Cave? Krystal's fight is not with the pundits, it's with Elizabeth Warren who is not running.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:25 PM
Feb 2014

The rest of us pundits take Elizabeth at her word that she doesn't intend to run.

We keep asking her and keep getting the same answer.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
29. Someday people will realize that Elizabeth Warren isn't a bullshitter, she doesn't equivocate
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:35 PM
Feb 2014

and she really isn't going to run. Like Al Gore in 2004. Her integrity and forthright answers to simple questions is one of the reasons I admire her so much. She's pretty much unique among contemporary political leaders in that respect.

DUer's will probably realize it shortly after the Democratic convention in 2016 nominates someone else.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
31. Krystal Ball is a corrupt ninny
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:07 AM
Feb 2014

She is married to Jonathan Dariyanani, who is president and CEO of Sargus Capital and is on the board of Forbes. The move to draft Elizabeth Warren to run for president is to get her away from the Senate and the vital work she is doing digging out and exposing the corrupt financial industry practices.

Biden is also a tool of the financial industry, so he may be used to try to screw up the chance for Democrats is 2016, as well. Come on folks, he was a senator out of Delaware for decades.

The financial industry is terrified of Clinton becoming president and all the snark on this site about her being the Wall Street favorite is balderdash and vile political gamesmanship. Progressives had better wake up. The GOP and their corrupt allies are trotting out the Al Gore playbook of "not liberal enough" on us all over again.

There is no doubt Clinton has received and will get money from these outfits. They always pay out money to who ever has a chance to win, but it is clear, if you pay attention at all, that Clinton scares the crap out of them and for good reason.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
34. I liked Krystal Ball until she made that speech...I don't any longer.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 10:39 PM
Feb 2014

I don't want talking heads to start showing favorites and dividing the Dem party. Can't we wait and see who's running before we start taking some of them down with negative comments. Leave that to the Rethugs.

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