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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:27 PM Apr 2014

Good News for Obamacare Is Bad News for Conservative Pundits

There is a double standard in the media. When bad news comes up with respect to Democrats or liberals, the corporate media relentlessly plays this up. But when facts arise that contradict right wing talking points, the corporate right wing media, simply pretends that they do not exist.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/good-news-for-obamacare-is-bad-news-for-conservative-pundits-20140418

Conservatives were sure at every turn that Obamacare would fail, but as the numbers roll in, those convictions are looking increasingly ideological.

First they said nobody would enroll. Then they said first-year premiums would be through the roof. And later, they warned of a "death spiral," wherein premiums would go up uncontrollably. My colleague Sam Baker has written an excellent analysis of the situation, the upshot of which is that Obamacare is on a winning streak.

The next great frontier of conservative hyperbole concerns premiums for 2015, with critics warning that costs will double or even triple next year.

As of this week, we have good evidence to the contrary. Health insurance premium rates are expected go up just 7 percent—a rate of increase much lower than what critics were predicting. And the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office is predicting that premium hikes will be relatively modest.
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Good News for Obamacare Is Bad News for Conservative Pundits (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2014 OP
It would have been a good time for them to back off. Since the ACA is the plan Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #1
Climate Change, Evolution, Equal Pay... TomCADem Apr 2014 #2
They can be wrong Cosmocat Apr 2014 #6
K&R #5! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #3
7%??? Weren't they going up by 12-25% before?? underpants Apr 2014 #4
yes, they all went up fast & high in the couple years before ACA started. Blue Cross almost doubled, Sunlei Apr 2014 #5

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. It would have been a good time for them to back off. Since the ACA is the plan
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:40 PM
Apr 2014

The Heritage foundation put out, based on Massachusetts plan when Romney was governor lots of the talking points have been avoided so they had to make their own set of lies. Like death panels, now we know the death panels are in states which did not expand Medicare. Long lines, this was happening to Medicare already, France doesn't have long lines. It is the worse thing that could happen to America, but really lack of a single payer system may be the worse thing to happen to America.

I have been very fortunate in my life to have had health care, but I always wanted everyone to have insurance, health care is very important. Soon I hope everyone will be able to get health insurance.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
2. Climate Change, Evolution, Equal Pay...
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 12:28 AM
Apr 2014

...the amazing thing is the degree to which the right is able to operate independent of reality and facts. With social security, Medicare, etc., the media focuses endlessly on costs under the guise of accountability, but when it comes to right wing talking points, no amount of evidence is sufficient to put them to rest.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
6. They can be wrong
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:52 PM
Apr 2014

100 times, and it does not matter one iota.

The cadre of jackasses who drove the Iraq War, the greatest foreign policy disaster of modern times, which got thousands of our troops killed and tens of thousands of them maimed and mentally scared, still spout their bullshit to the "liberal media" and are taken as authoritative sources.

I would ask how many democrats or liberals could be wrong that bad and that often and still get a voice in our media, except they generally don't get a voice in the first place.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. yes, they all went up fast & high in the couple years before ACA started. Blue Cross almost doubled,
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 12:03 PM
Apr 2014

and they turned down new enrollments in Texas, while they still could.

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