Is It My Imagination Or Are "Conservatives" More Out of Control Than Ever?

[Cary]

I just don't get it. What have they "won," exactly?

[Big Blue Marble]

1. Ironically, they are more in control than ever! N/T

[randys1]

2. For now they have won the right to hate Women and Obama, to show us how the long game

is played

Those 5 SC justices didnt just happen to get there, all planned, took decades, but destroying the progress of the adults, i.e. liberals of America, had to be done...

[atreides1]

3. Fear

They are afraid of what's coming and they will do whatever it takes to remain in control!

[savalez]

7. That's what I think too.

Blocking immigration, gerrymandering, and so on.

They are just prolonging the inevitable.

[KT2000]

4. #1 Rule

Whether it is the family, workplace, or government - the crazy person is in control. It works.
Look at how the moderate Republicans stand up to the tea nuts - NOT!
Look how media stands up to the Clive Bundys - NOT!

[blkmusclmachine]

14. Hell, look how the DEMS stand up to the GOP - <<NOT!>>

[KT2000]

15. True!

I thought about saying that but things are getting so flamey around here, decided not to.

[Cosmocat]

5. Yes, and they don't have the first clue ...

I remember the 90s vividly, just being completely confused by the sheer hatred of Bill Clinton, and also bewildered by the bullshit AM radio was spouting. It was well refined, but to me, didn't pass the bullshit test, but SOMEHOW many I knew believed it 100 percent.

They are worse today in that they have totally given up any pretense of trying to have a set core of "principles" that it all comes from. 20 years ago, they tethered everything to state's rights, the constitution, ect. It had SOME intellectual foundation.

NOW, they just go from one hyperbolic screaming fit to another even where they are today totally contradicts where they were yesterday.

They have TOTALLY bought their bullshit - they are proud and great americans and there is some evil liberal boogyman out there that makes everything horrible.

That is it in a nutshell.

But, there is a digression.

20 years ago, most of the pols had SOME grounding in reality.

Today, every single one of these rat motherfuckers thinks they crap their party has spewed for decades now is actual reality.

And, they don't have the first fucking clue what they won, there is nothing they really are working toward. It is just unleashed fury, anger and hatred and they are going to get someone and prove a point, regardless of who they are getting and what the point its, and it is NEVER going to be enough.

[hollowdweller]

6. No, definately not your imagination

The difference between now, and the Clinton years which was mentioned is back then republicans would work with Clinton and pass legislation. Now even when Obama offers some idea that has a foundation in conservative thinking they just up their demands rather than making a reasonable counter offer.

In Clinton years the GOP wanted the economy to do well because if it didn't then they were in trouble. Now, I believe a lot of the GOP base wants it to get worse because they have sort of this dystopian fantasy where there is only a loose society and it's a collection of individuals, each a law unto himself rather than society that has culture and tries to improve the health and wellbeing of it's society. They have this fantasy of a man holing up with his rifle.

Another difference I think is all those people who were started out on AM radio and now watch Fox or whatever- they are the GOP now. So where it was conservative or libertarian before, I think the current GOP really has a way more Confederate States of America bent than previously. I really do think that if it contines to go in the direction it is going there will be either a civil war or at least some serious bloodshed because that's what a LOT of these people want. I mean there's a lot of talk about patriotism and stuff and waving of the flag but when you get to talking to these guys they sound like the Confederates, I get the feeling any gov't would be hated by them.

What I wonder is it because of the Dixiecrats dying off? Is it because we have a black president? Or is it because the GOP has so pandered to those sentiments to get voters that they are being created anew with no link to the past.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

10. It's because we have a black president. Period. That's it. It's just that simple...

...and just that sad.

[hollowdweller]

13. I tend to agree with you.

I mean they hated Clinton but with Obama it's difft. A black guy who is in a position of authority gets no respect, and Holder a black guy chief law enforcement officer just makes them nuts.

[winter is coming]

8. I just assumed they finally ran out of batshit and the new bats have rabies.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. That black man in the White House driving them insane!

[Sunlei]

11. RW spent a good bit of media money to whip their squidges* into a frenzy of hate and fear.

I don't think the Leadership Republicans care at all what kaos and hurt their squidges cause.

Crazed/angry/ignorant squidges are a wonderful distraction.


*McCain called the little RW 'squidges' when he had one of his cranky old man days.

[Kablooie]

12. SCOTUS put their foot in the conservative door and are prepared to kick it wide open in a few years.

And then the madness will stream out like the oil from Deepwater Horizon.
Just watch.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. They seem more unhinged and desperate

[Hekate]

17. They are no longer "conservative" in the classic sense.They have let the radical fringe take over...

They are radicals who don't believe in governance yet want to be elected so they can prove that government does not work.

[Cary]

18. True

[anti partisan]

19. Well for one you've got neocon propaganda being posted as "news" in DU

That must mean they are winning something.

And for those who think I am trolling or crossed the line, I assure you this is reality http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251369322

[Cary]

20. I am disturbed at present by neocon propaganda everywhere being cited as "news"

And they trot it out as if it were some kind of fresh perspective.

Worse yet on CNBC this morning they're blabbing neo-economics, and even citing the Laffer Curve as if that garbage hasn't been debunked every which way to Sunday.

These people like Larry Kudlow have a lot of nerve.

[anti partisan]

24. Neocon propaganda on corporate media is par for the course

But on DEMOCRATIC Underground which wouldn't be what it is without a few neocon wars to oppose?

[otohara]

21. I Think So

otherwise we wouldn't be so divided.

I think they are hateful - they show it everyday.

[conservaphobe]

22. They went from being criminal to criminally insane.

[Paladin]

23. It's definitely not your imagination.

I'm more and more convinced that the second civil war which the nut-case right wing wants so badly is the only way to clean things up.