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world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 10:45 PM Oct 2014

I live in the land of democratic cowardice; Colorado

Our cowardly candidates in Colorado have spent more airtime bragging about how they have fought against Obama then telling the truth, and they are all about to get their asses kicked.
Mark Udall is constantly attacked for supporting Obama 99% of the time, so he has determined that it is wiser toj brag about how he opposed the Prez on spying then talk about how he supported raising the minimum wage, enacting the Dream Act, supporting first responders, enacting legislation to prevent global warming, or the Affordable Care Act, or The American Jobs Act which the Republicans all filibustered. Or how Republicans shut down the government and tried to push us into default.
After Obama won the state twice, Udall decided it was wiser to appease Teabaggers than to support his base. Yes, he deserves to lose, and he will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
For Congress, we have a clown named Irv Halter running against Doug. Lamborn who suggested that the military generals mutiny against the Commander In Chief. But does Halter even mention that?

Not a chance. He has chosen to run against "Obamacare".
These assholes are all going to lose and then scratch their heads wondering why.

My question to all of you is this: is there ant Democrat in the country running with balls, convictionn, and pride in what they have been able to accomplish in spite of this obstructionist Republican machine, or have we all just surrendered?

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I live in the land of democratic cowardice; Colorado (Original Post) world wide wally Oct 2014 OP
Mark Udall did oppose Obama on the spying on American citizens. I haven't seen him Autumn Oct 2014 #1
See below. world wide wally Oct 2014 #4
Right. I just filled out my ballot while holding my nose. Laffy Kat Oct 2014 #2
I voted for him too. But I am pissed at his campaign world wide wally Oct 2014 #5
That's exactly what I said when I saw the language of 67. evemac Oct 2014 #18
I don't understand how they can get away with that. Laffy Kat Oct 2014 #21
Udall is kissing Teabagger ass and talking more against Obama than defending his own votes. world wide wally Oct 2014 #3
This is a good example of why democrats lose elections. They stand divided rather than united. Like RKP5637 Oct 2014 #6
Then Democratic candidates should act like Democrats world wide wally Oct 2014 #7
Exactly!!! Too many are all over the map depending on which way the wind is RKP5637 Oct 2014 #8
Well golly gee. madamesilverspurs Oct 2014 #9
Nice try, but I voted FOR Obama…… I don;t; understand why Udall has spent more airtime opposing him world wide wally Oct 2014 #11
No he hasn't. madamesilverspurs Oct 2014 #12
Have you seen Udall run from Obama? Because I haven't Autumn Oct 2014 #15
Frustrating, isn't it? madamesilverspurs Oct 2014 #17
I no longer have a horse in this race. I'm too old to have kids and my kids are done Autumn Oct 2014 #14
Just wondering Esse Quam Videri Oct 2014 #10
I checked with the Boulder Democrats and their suggestions evemac Oct 2014 #19
Don't blame Mark Udall, blame the apolitical left. joshcryer Oct 2014 #13
Our Purple Status otohara Oct 2014 #16
is Udall the guy who claims he is brain dead? quadrature Oct 2014 #20

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
1. Mark Udall did oppose Obama on the spying on American citizens. I haven't seen him
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 10:56 PM
Oct 2014

appeasing teabaggers here. He's been a good Senator. I've seen that dumb ass fuck face Gardner on TV lying his ass off about Udall. The media has been saturated with lies about Udall.
Fuck that shit that Udall deserves to lose.
That's fucking disgraceful and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
2. Right. I just filled out my ballot while holding my nose.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:01 PM
Oct 2014

Udall has lost my respect but I voted for him. Never did care for Hickenlooper but I voted for him. I still like Polis. As usual, I voted a straight Democratic ticket and I always will, although this time I felt like I needed a shower. The stakes are just so high. The amendments are important, especially #67; did you notice it's referred to as "protecting women".

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
21. I don't understand how they can get away with that.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:14 AM
Oct 2014

It's so misleading. If 67 passes and Beauprez and/or Gardner win, women and girls in Colorado are screwed.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
3. Udall is kissing Teabagger ass and talking more against Obama than defending his own votes.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:04 PM
Oct 2014

I really don't care about Udall's career... I am more concerned about the rest of us having to live with the consequences of his cowardly (yes, cowardly) campaign.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
6. This is a good example of why democrats lose elections. They stand divided rather than united. Like
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:08 PM
Oct 2014

the republicans or not, they do stand united. Far too often democrats are off arguing among themselves. I know, it's one big tent, but after awhile hearing that becomes bullshit.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
8. Exactly!!! Too many are all over the map depending on which way the wind is
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:24 PM
Oct 2014

blowing. Exactly as you say, Democratic candidates should act like Democrats!

madamesilverspurs

(15,801 posts)
9. Well golly gee.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:51 AM
Oct 2014

You mean the afternoon I just spent with a roomful of others working a phone bank, while a couple dozen more went and knocked doors for Udall was complete waste of effort? Wow, I had no idea we were laboring so intensely for some kind of cowardly moron. How very kind of you to enlighten us (that WAS your intent, wasn't it?). I'll be sure to pass along your 'concern'.

I first met Mark Udall several years ago, impressed at the outset with his grasp of the details. We have had a number of conversations in which he asked as many questions as I did; I like that, it's honest. I've seen him spring into action while Cory Gardner was still busy polishing his hair before voting to shut down the government.

And you might want to check Irv Halter's record before you go trashing him as a clown. The people in the district are already aware of it, if they chose to stick with Lamborn in spite of that knowledge the idiocy is on them, not Halter.

For the record, I look for perfection in no candidate because it simply does not exist in any human. But I'll work my butt off for those who do the same for their constituents, and Mark Udall has a long record of doing exactly that.

If you're going to demand ridiculous standards, may I suggest the routine most mature adults have found to be most effective; it starts with a mirror.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
11. Nice try, but I voted FOR Obama…… I don;t; understand why Udall has spent more airtime opposing him
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:15 AM
Oct 2014

then defending the policies he himself voted for.

I hope he wins too, and I spent my time working for Obama both times so don't get so self righteous. I thank you for your effort, but I wish Udall would make an honest one himself.

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
15. Have you seen Udall run from Obama? Because I haven't
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:00 PM
Oct 2014
I wonder if some are confusing Gardner with Udall.

madamesilverspurs

(15,801 posts)
17. Frustrating, isn't it?
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:57 PM
Oct 2014

The Denver media has been pushing that idea, in Udall's case the word they used was "hiding". I heard that on the news one morning, and two hours later I asked Udall if he was, in fact, hiding. He and his wife, Maggie, laughed loudly; then they joined us in marching in a July 4th parade that was attended by thousands. If that's hiding, he's truly lousy at it.

And just this week Michelle Obama came to Colorado to campaign for him. Yesterday Udall spoke very ardently about the President's policies and accomplishments. Distance? What distance?

Between the Kochs and a bizarrely complicit media, I wonder if the 'distance' we should be concerned about is the diminishing one between media and corporate agendas.

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
14. I no longer have a horse in this race. I'm too old to have kids and my kids are done
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:25 AM
Oct 2014

having kids so since YOU think that " Udall deserves to lose" you will get Gardner, Enjoy that WILL YOU? but you really need to hope to fuck Udall doesn't lose because we sure as fuck don't deserve Gardner. So why should I care if Gardner gets in? And I will say that it's obvious you are not paying attention , Udall has not run from anything he has done. I think your problem is some of what he has done, such as his fight against the spying on American citizens are against what Obama supports. Udall is honest and has been a damn fine Senator. Gardner and outside groups have saturated the media here with lies about him.

evemac

(132 posts)
19. I checked with the Boulder Democrats and their suggestions
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:05 AM
Oct 2014

Yes on all judges except one (sorry that I don't remember which one). I was surprised on the no position for labeling GMOs, but that may a bit more complicated than I realize.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
16. Our Purple Status
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:28 PM
Oct 2014

keeps all of them on the fence.

I went to a small rally with Elizabeth Warren, Udall and Bennett.
I know more about Sen. Warren than our two guys, but I'm sure damn glad Ken Buck or Bob Schaffer aren't our senators.

The only person who is safe is Diana DeGette and she doesn't spew much liberal stuff. She voted no to Alan Grayson's amendment to end local police from acquiring military grade equipment for the police. I did a write in to protest her.... without getting arrested or sprayed.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
20. is Udall the guy who claims he is brain dead?
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:06 AM
Oct 2014

hello loss column.

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