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littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:49 AM Oct 2014

The BOSTON GLOBE endorses Baker for Governor. WTF

Last edited Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:21 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2014/10/26/charlie-baker-for-governor/r4Yymw55jVr20D53EhUIkK/story.html

Baker’s candidacy offers an opportunity to consolidate some of the advances made during the administration of Deval Patrick. Baker could be counted on to preserve and extend educational reforms, to ensure the rigorous administration of new funds for transportation, to knowledgeably oversee the cost-containment law now reshaping the state’s signature health care industry. At a difficult inflection point in state government, Massachusetts needs a governor who’s focused on steady management and demonstrable results.
Roundup of endorsements
Governor: Charlie Baker
Attorney General: Maura Healey
State Treasurer: Deb Goldberg
State Auditor: Patricia Saint Aubin
Secretary of State: Bill Galvin
3d District: Niki Tsongas
9th District: Bill Keating
Question 1: No
Question 2: Yes
Question 3: Yes
Question 4: Yes

much more at the link.
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The BOSTON GLOBE endorses Baker for Governor. WTF (Original Post) littlewolf Oct 2014 OP
Baker, not Barker. merrily Oct 2014 #1
you are correct, I plead fat fingers and lack of sleep, thanks for the catch. nt littlewolf Oct 2014 #9
No worries. I often post while drowsy. merrily Oct 2014 #10
That editorial doesn't make sense. The writer admits that the Democrats lifted the state Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #2
Elizabeth Warren's strong endorsement here (with video) sketchy Oct 2014 #3
The Globe began to suck when the NYT group bought them. When John "One Percenter" Henry MADem Oct 2014 #23
" ' ' ' n/t MBS Oct 2014 #26
nothing to be concerned about mgcgulfcoast Oct 2014 #4
Yawn. Are we really going to post every right-wing paper's endorsement of every right-wing candidat Doctor_J Oct 2014 #5
Oh, the Globe is conservative? Didn't know that. O.K., I'm dismissing this one, then. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #6
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #18
The globe is not a right wing paper. You are thinking of the Herald iandhr Oct 2014 #7
No time for negativism -- people just need to VOTE sketchy Oct 2014 #8
GOTV is not only voting, though voting is important. merrily Oct 2014 #12
thumbs-up for this. MBS Oct 2014 #15
that is why I posted it, the Globe supporting a Republican? wow. littlewolf Oct 2014 #11
They endorsed TISEI over TIERNEY for the 6th District in 2012. MADem Oct 2014 #22
Sarcasm emote? The Globe is respected in Massachusetts and this is a very unusual merrily Oct 2014 #13
For what it's worth, The Boston Globe is now owned by former comodity trader. canoeist52 Oct 2014 #14
+1 nt MADem Oct 2014 #24
Somehow I think Coakley will screw this one up, too. WI_DEM Oct 2014 #16
Not Unusual for MA to Elect GOP Governors dorothy79 Oct 2014 #17
I'm voting for Martha. Charlie Baker is a rotten shit who will drive MA to rack and ruin. MADem Oct 2014 #20
good pieces by Charlie Pierce and Blue Mass group on this. . MBS Oct 2014 #19
Superb assessment--thank you for posting it. nt MADem Oct 2014 #21
No surprise, Globe did not endorse Martha for the primary. They endorsed Grossman Justice Oct 2014 #25
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
2. That editorial doesn't make sense. The writer admits that the Democrats lifted the state
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:07 AM
Oct 2014

out of the recession; it was the Democrats--not the Republicans--who created jobs and didn't cut taxes on the wealthy. Why would the Globe endorse Baker. Yes, I know it's Coakley. Yes, I know Democrats are idiots for putting her name up. However, she is a seasoned public and civil servant. She knows what she's doing. Just because she's a lousy politician doesn't make her a lousy servant.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. The Globe began to suck when the NYT group bought them. When John "One Percenter" Henry
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:47 AM
Oct 2014

bought them from the NYT group, that was the final nail in the coffin. So many high hopes...DASHED.

The difference between the Globe and the Herald can be summed up thusly:

Globe--Better spell-check, more "serious" news, better use of grammar, you need an eighth grade reading level to get through every article.

Herald--Moron "everyman" approach, easier to hold on the subway, appeals to a reader with a sixth-grade reading ability but a fourth-grader can manage it on a good day.

Both are more amusing than USA TODAY and both do a great job at the bottom of the birdcage.


Coakley is the more liberal candidate BY FAR. The fact that Globe didn't endorse her says everything about the GLOBE's trajectory, not Martha's.
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
5. Yawn. Are we really going to post every right-wing paper's endorsement of every right-wing candidat
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:24 AM
Oct 2014

running for office next week? These endorsements mean almost nothing

Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #6)

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
7. The globe is not a right wing paper. You are thinking of the Herald
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:08 PM
Oct 2014
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/27/politics/boston-globe-endorses-martha-coakley-opponent/index.html

It was the first time in 20 years the Globe supported a Republican. All the other people they have endorsed are Dems.

Martha blew it in 2010. She is going to blow it again.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
15. thumbs-up for this.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 02:14 PM
Oct 2014

Also, while I was very, very angry about Martha's non-campaign for the Senate , and said loudly at the time that I would never forgive her for that stunning episode of political malpractice, I have in fact forgiven her because of her hard work in this gubernatorial election.
She's campaigned very hard this time around, and has thoroughly earned both my forgiveness and my respect.
She deserves to be governor.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. They endorsed TISEI over TIERNEY for the 6th District in 2012.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:40 AM
Oct 2014
http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/the_boston_globe_endorses_rich.html

Deval has been governor for seven years, now--they endorsed him following that abject failure Mitt, because he ran a tight HOPE-CHANGE-YES WE CAN (yes, it was the trial run for Obama's) campaign. So the Deval years just don't count, and that's a big chunk of the 20 years CNN is babbling about.

And they have endorsed a SLEW of GOP governors in the past--Sargeant, Weld, Hatch--so that 20 year limit is rather arbitrary. Big picture--they've endorsed MORE REPUBLICANS for governor in recent history than they have Democrats.

http://dankennedy.net/2014/10/27/looking-at-the-globes-previous-republican-endorsements/


They are not a "local" paper anymore and haven't been for a long time. Before John "Mortgage your house to go see the Sox" Henry bought the rag, it was owned by the NYT group.

They're just another shitty generic paper now, and they picked the MORE CONSERVATIVE of the two candidates--by far. What made them the Boston Globe--the good local reporters, the "Globe Spotlight Team," the great columnists with a city perspective--all that is gone, and has been for decades, now.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Sarcasm emote? The Globe is respected in Massachusetts and this is a very unusual
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:26 PM
Oct 2014

endorsement of a Republican for Governor by the Globe. Did you notice the other endorsements?

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
14. For what it's worth, The Boston Globe is now owned by former comodity trader.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 02:05 PM
Oct 2014

"John W Henry, the principal owner of the Boston Red Sox.... The 63-year-old, who was born in Illinois, lives in the Boston area. He made his fortune in finance as a commodity trader."
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/03/john-henry-boston-globe-new-york-times

 

dorothy79

(6 posts)
17. Not Unusual for MA to Elect GOP Governors
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 04:09 PM
Oct 2014

I live in Boston and I am a Democrat by birth and blood and, at 56, I have never, never voted for a republican, and I won't do it on November 4th.
But I cannot stand Martha Coakley, as DA she made some deals that sickened me, and her dirty, immoral and self-serving prosecution of former state Treasurer Tim Cahill was totally lacking in substance and importance, cost millions of dollars and was done just to further her political career.
She ran an arrogant, lazy, entitled campaign for Ted Kennedy's seat, and thankfully we were able to rectify that - Scott Brown is an empty suit.
Charlie Baker is a republican, but he is a Massachusetts/Northeast republican who I disagree with on many issues but he is not crackpot southern lunatic. We won't have the Embryo Police going door to door and he surely isn't going try to repeal gay marriage in the first state that it was legal in.
Don't love him, won't vote for him, but I can't pull the lever for her.
Charlie Baker would be considered to the left of Lenin in Alabama.
Voters of MA are smart and well-informed, and often think a GOP governor will give a little bit of balance to the Democratic House and Senate. If he wins it won't be the end of the world because he will get nothing done and won't be re-elected if he tries to do a Reverse Robin Hood like nutjob Sam Brownback. And he surely won't be plundering the schools, NOT IN MA.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. I'm voting for Martha. Charlie Baker is a rotten shit who will drive MA to rack and ruin.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:18 AM
Oct 2014

You can do what you want (but you might want to read the DU TOS--we are in general election season and you ARE bashing and trashing a Democratic candidate), but there are only two viable choices in this race--and one of them (Baker) sucks. Kiss circuit breaker for senior citizens goodbye, kiss social support systems for the underserved goodbye, kiss any early childhood support for youngsters goodbye if Charlie gets elected.

MA governors do have the power of veto, you know--Mitt used it all the time.

If Charlie gets in, watch your "stealth taxes" go up--you know, the ones that rich people don't even notice, but break the backs of the poor. And if you don't think he can't plunder the schools, think again. There's a lot a governor can do with a pen in that corner office.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
19. good pieces by Charlie Pierce and Blue Mass group on this. .
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 04:47 PM
Oct 2014

Charlie Pierce:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Two_Cheers_For_Martha

. . For our governors especially, but statewide generally, we elect Republicans. We elect Democrats. We do not elect wingnuts, nor do we elect radical southpaws. We're a helluva lot more conventional than our image would have you believe. (Senator Professor Warren was both sui generis, and the exception that proves the rule.) And, frankly, Martha Coakley has run a decent campaign for governor, a campaign clearly superior to the one she ran against McDreamy. She won a tough Democratic primary, with opponents who covered the entire spectrum of Democratic politics. She has more than held her own against Baker in their debates. She has done everything that people said she failed to do in 2010, including humanizing herself through her ads. (There's a very good one in which she describes her brother's struggle with mental illness, a story that I, for one, had never heard before.) In addition, since losing to Brown, she's been a damned good attorney general. And Charlie Baker has run a campaign of pablum. Which brings me to the basic conundrum of this race -- why is Martha Coakley paying forever for the bad campaign she ran in 2010 while Charlie Baker doesn't pay at all for the equally terrible campaign he ran for governor later that same year? They're both retreads. Neither one of them is in the least charismatic. At least Coakley's been elected, several times, to a statewide office. . .

. . .Which brings us to the Globe's endorsement of Baker, which is calm and reasoned, but which seems to be more than a little curious, since it doesn't make a very compelling case for Baker over Coakley on any grounds save for the fact that he's not her. . . .
(Just a note -- the Massachusetts Constitution requires the state budget to be balanced. So, any time you hear any governor of either party up here brag about having balanced x-number of budgets in a row, remember that he essentially is arguing that, during his time in office, he hasn't robbed any banks.).
. . .
The only real policy position of Baker's that the Globe endorses is his enthusiasm for charter schools, over which the Globe and its columnists have been slavering for two decades. Otherwise, the whole endorsement can be fairly summed up as, "It's time for a Republican governor again."
(David at Blue Mass Group does a nice job summing up the curious twists and turns that Globe's longtime crush on Baker has taken.) . .


Blue Mass Group (David Kravitz)
http://bluemassgroup.com/2014/10/did-anyone-think-the-globe-would-not-endorse-charlie-baker/

In a thoroughly unsurprising move, the Globe endorsed a Republican – Charlie Baker – for Governor. Lots of people saw this coming a mile away. I was one of them. At the end of August, I wrote this, on the occasion of the Globe endorsing Steve Grossman in the primary:
"Endorsing a guy who probably won’t win the primary, and in the process setting out all the reasons why Coakley isn’t a good candidate, sets them up perfectly to endorse Baker in the general. I’d say the odds are better than even that they’ll do just that, if Coakley wins the primary." Two days later, on Sept. 2, I was more emphatic: My prediction is that if Coakley wins the primary, the Globe endorses Charlie Baker. And so it came to pass. And, really, the Globe has always liked Baker. . . .
That’s pretty much the line in today’s endorsement: Baker’s an awesome manager, and we need a manager more than anything else.
. . .
Did Baker rise to the “key challenge” of “mapping out a larger agenda”? You wouldn’t think so to read today’s endorsement, which other than the obligatory nod to Baker’s “full-throated support” for charter schools, is startlingly devoid of policy discussion. Instead, the Globe contents itself by saying that “one needn’t agree with every last one of Baker’s views,” whatever they are, to vote for him, and concludes with this:" a difficult inflection point in state government, Massachusetts needs a governor who’s focused on steady management and demonstrable results."In other words, we were kidding when we said back in August that Baker needed to show a vision, or even to talk much about what he actually wants to do other than improve efficiency. We really just want a manager.

Anyway, this is all very interesting, but almost certainly irrelevant to the outcome next Tuesday. As we’ve discussed several times in recent elections, newspaper endorsements have a pretty poor track record recently – just ask Senator Dan Winslow, Governor nominee Steve Grossman, Lt. Gov. nominee Leland Cheung, Treasurer nominee Tom Conroy, Mayor of Boston John Connolly, and any number of other endorsees who have failed to convert a Globe editorial board endorsement into actual votes. No, what wins is getting your supporters to the polls on election day. You know how to help do that.




Justice

(7,187 posts)
25. No surprise, Globe did not endorse Martha for the primary. They endorsed Grossman
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:52 AM
Oct 2014

You knew it was coming, as they endorsed Baker for the primary.

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