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Related: About this forumThe BOSTON GLOBE endorses Baker for Governor. WTF
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2014/10/26/charlie-baker-for-governor/r4Yymw55jVr20D53EhUIkK/story.htmlBakers candidacy offers an opportunity to consolidate some of the advances made during the administration of Deval Patrick. Baker could be counted on to preserve and extend educational reforms, to ensure the rigorous administration of new funds for transportation, to knowledgeably oversee the cost-containment law now reshaping the states signature health care industry. At a difficult inflection point in state government, Massachusetts needs a governor whos focused on steady management and demonstrable results.
Roundup of endorsements
Governor: Charlie Baker
Attorney General: Maura Healey
State Treasurer: Deb Goldberg
State Auditor: Patricia Saint Aubin
Secretary of State: Bill Galvin
3d District: Niki Tsongas
9th District: Bill Keating
Question 1: No
Question 2: Yes
Question 3: Yes
Question 4: Yes
much more at the link.
merrily
(45,251 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)out of the recession; it was the Democrats--not the Republicans--who created jobs and didn't cut taxes on the wealthy. Why would the Globe endorse Baker. Yes, I know it's Coakley. Yes, I know Democrats are idiots for putting her name up. However, she is a seasoned public and civil servant. She knows what she's doing. Just because she's a lousy politician doesn't make her a lousy servant.
sketchy
(458 posts)This is from Blue Mass Group:
http://bluemassgroup.com/2014/10/whose-side-are-they-on/#comment-352927
MADem
(135,425 posts)bought them from the NYT group, that was the final nail in the coffin. So many high hopes...DASHED.
The difference between the Globe and the Herald can be summed up thusly:
Globe--Better spell-check, more "serious" news, better use of grammar, you need an eighth grade reading level to get through every article.
Herald--Moron "everyman" approach, easier to hold on the subway, appeals to a reader with a sixth-grade reading ability but a fourth-grader can manage it on a good day.
Both are more amusing than USA TODAY and both do a great job at the bottom of the birdcage.
Coakley is the more liberal candidate BY FAR. The fact that Globe didn't endorse her says everything about the GLOBE's trajectory, not Martha's.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)we win this by +10
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)running for office next week? These endorsements mean almost nothing
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #6)
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iandhr
(6,852 posts)It was the first time in 20 years the Globe supported a Republican. All the other people they have endorsed are Dems.
Martha blew it in 2010. She is going to blow it again.
sketchy
(458 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)Also, while I was very, very angry about Martha's non-campaign for the Senate , and said loudly at the time that I would never forgive her for that stunning episode of political malpractice, I have in fact forgiven her because of her hard work in this gubernatorial election.
She's campaigned very hard this time around, and has thoroughly earned both my forgiveness and my respect.
She deserves to be governor.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)I didn't know it was 20 years.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Deval has been governor for seven years, now--they endorsed him following that abject failure Mitt, because he ran a tight HOPE-CHANGE-YES WE CAN (yes, it was the trial run for Obama's) campaign. So the Deval years just don't count, and that's a big chunk of the 20 years CNN is babbling about.
And they have endorsed a SLEW of GOP governors in the past--Sargeant, Weld, Hatch--so that 20 year limit is rather arbitrary. Big picture--they've endorsed MORE REPUBLICANS for governor in recent history than they have Democrats.
http://dankennedy.net/2014/10/27/looking-at-the-globes-previous-republican-endorsements/
They are not a "local" paper anymore and haven't been for a long time. Before John "Mortgage your house to go see the Sox" Henry bought the rag, it was owned by the NYT group.
They're just another shitty generic paper now, and they picked the MORE CONSERVATIVE of the two candidates--by far. What made them the Boston Globe--the good local reporters, the "Globe Spotlight Team," the great columnists with a city perspective--all that is gone, and has been for decades, now.
merrily
(45,251 posts)endorsement of a Republican for Governor by the Globe. Did you notice the other endorsements?
canoeist52
(2,282 posts)"John W Henry, the principal owner of the Boston Red Sox.... The 63-year-old, who was born in Illinois, lives in the Boston area. He made his fortune in finance as a commodity trader."
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/03/john-henry-boston-globe-new-york-times
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)dorothy79
(6 posts)I live in Boston and I am a Democrat by birth and blood and, at 56, I have never, never voted for a republican, and I won't do it on November 4th.
But I cannot stand Martha Coakley, as DA she made some deals that sickened me, and her dirty, immoral and self-serving prosecution of former state Treasurer Tim Cahill was totally lacking in substance and importance, cost millions of dollars and was done just to further her political career.
She ran an arrogant, lazy, entitled campaign for Ted Kennedy's seat, and thankfully we were able to rectify that - Scott Brown is an empty suit.
Charlie Baker is a republican, but he is a Massachusetts/Northeast republican who I disagree with on many issues but he is not crackpot southern lunatic. We won't have the Embryo Police going door to door and he surely isn't going try to repeal gay marriage in the first state that it was legal in.
Don't love him, won't vote for him, but I can't pull the lever for her.
Charlie Baker would be considered to the left of Lenin in Alabama.
Voters of MA are smart and well-informed, and often think a GOP governor will give a little bit of balance to the Democratic House and Senate. If he wins it won't be the end of the world because he will get nothing done and won't be re-elected if he tries to do a Reverse Robin Hood like nutjob Sam Brownback. And he surely won't be plundering the schools, NOT IN MA.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You can do what you want (but you might want to read the DU TOS--we are in general election season and you ARE bashing and trashing a Democratic candidate), but there are only two viable choices in this race--and one of them (Baker) sucks. Kiss circuit breaker for senior citizens goodbye, kiss social support systems for the underserved goodbye, kiss any early childhood support for youngsters goodbye if Charlie gets elected.
MA governors do have the power of veto, you know--Mitt used it all the time.
If Charlie gets in, watch your "stealth taxes" go up--you know, the ones that rich people don't even notice, but break the backs of the poor. And if you don't think he can't plunder the schools, think again. There's a lot a governor can do with a pen in that corner office.
MBS
(9,688 posts)Charlie Pierce:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Two_Cheers_For_Martha
. . .Which brings us to the Globe's endorsement of Baker, which is calm and reasoned, but which seems to be more than a little curious, since it doesn't make a very compelling case for Baker over Coakley on any grounds save for the fact that he's not her. . . .
(Just a note -- the Massachusetts Constitution requires the state budget to be balanced. So, any time you hear any governor of either party up here brag about having balanced x-number of budgets in a row, remember that he essentially is arguing that, during his time in office, he hasn't robbed any banks.).
. . .
The only real policy position of Baker's that the Globe endorses is his enthusiasm for charter schools, over which the Globe and its columnists have been slavering for two decades. Otherwise, the whole endorsement can be fairly summed up as, "It's time for a Republican governor again."
(David at Blue Mass Group does a nice job summing up the curious twists and turns that Globe's longtime crush on Baker has taken.) . .
Blue Mass Group (David Kravitz)
http://bluemassgroup.com/2014/10/did-anyone-think-the-globe-would-not-endorse-charlie-baker/
"Endorsing a guy who probably wont win the primary, and in the process setting out all the reasons why Coakley isnt a good candidate, sets them up perfectly to endorse Baker in the general. Id say the odds are better than even that theyll do just that, if Coakley wins the primary." Two days later, on Sept. 2, I was more emphatic: My prediction is that if Coakley wins the primary, the Globe endorses Charlie Baker. And so it came to pass. And, really, the Globe has always liked Baker. . . .
Thats pretty much the line in todays endorsement: Bakers an awesome manager, and we need a manager more than anything else.
. . .
Did Baker rise to the key challenge of mapping out a larger agenda? You wouldnt think so to read todays endorsement, which other than the obligatory nod to Bakers full-throated support for charter schools, is startlingly devoid of policy discussion. Instead, the Globe contents itself by saying that one neednt agree with every last one of Bakers views, whatever they are, to vote for him, and concludes with this:" a difficult inflection point in state government, Massachusetts needs a governor whos focused on steady management and demonstrable results."In other words, we were kidding when we said back in August that Baker needed to show a vision, or even to talk much about what he actually wants to do other than improve efficiency. We really just want a manager.
Anyway, this is all very interesting, but almost certainly irrelevant to the outcome next Tuesday. As weve discussed several times in recent elections, newspaper endorsements have a pretty poor track record recently just ask Senator Dan Winslow, Governor nominee Steve Grossman, Lt. Gov. nominee Leland Cheung, Treasurer nominee Tom Conroy, Mayor of Boston John Connolly, and any number of other endorsees who have failed to convert a Globe editorial board endorsement into actual votes. No, what wins is getting your supporters to the polls on election day. You know how to help do that.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Justice
(7,187 posts)You knew it was coming, as they endorsed Baker for the primary.