2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMost Americans Think Obama Will Win
Not a done deal by any stretch, but a good sign, I think. Maybe people are recognizing the crazy among us.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/17/most_americans_think_obama_will_win.html
Most Americans Think Obama Will Win
Gallup: "Fifty-six percent of Americans think Barack Obama will win the 2012 presidential election, compared with 36% who think Mitt Romney will win. Democrats are more likely to believe that Obama will win than Republicans are to believe Romney will. Independents are nearly twice as likely to think that Obama, rather than Romney, will prevail."
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)There have been too many things that stand out like the recent magic poll numbers that show the race a dead heat. It just makes me feel uneasy and un-trusting of the system and worried about what they will do to get control of the White House.
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)... and the courts. It's a recipe for 2000 redux on steroids. There's one thing I can count on from the reich-wing -- anything that "worked" before will be done again. These people are still fighting the Cold War. They're still cheering the embargo of Cuba. (And mourning the defeat of Batista.)
Nothing can be put past them. Nothing.
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)because the Democrats rolled over and let them get away with it.
liberalnationalist
(170 posts)dflprincess
(28,078 posts)If the Democrats were concerned with election activity they would have done something by now - not wait for the next one to get stolen.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)was because there was a really tough race between Bush and Gore. Had Gore been able to pull off a few percent more voters, the GOP factions who participated in the theft wouldn't have been able to try without their cover being blown.
If Obama even gets a slightly noticeable lead over Romney, say, 52 to 48, then it's going to be much harder for the crooks to steal the election....and perhaps the worst thing that could happen for the GOP is if Gary Johnson or Ron Paul decides to run for the White House on a third-party ticket(especially Johnson).
newfie11
(8,159 posts)God help this country if this election goes repug.
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harmonicon
(12,008 posts)I don't know if there were polls about it, but I sure expected Gore to win in 2000. It didn't stop me from voting, but I bet a lot of people didn't vote, simply because they thought it was a done deal.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I voted but I didn't really expect that most people would want Bush redux. Of course, technically, Gore WOULD HAVE won if a full recount had been completed instead of being IMHO inappropriately short-circuited by SCOTUS.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)but if people hadn't been complacent it would have been a complete route that not even having a brother in charge of a large state could fix.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I just thought that most people weren't that enthused about Gore, he was tainted by the Lewinsky scandal and didn't take full advantage of Clinton's support as a result (it didn't help that he had a Clinton "scold" like Lieberman on the ticket) and, of course, the media made sure to make Gore look unappealing by making him out to be a pathological liar that he wasn't and making Bush look like somebody fun and appealing. Plus, I think that having 8 years of relative peace and prosperity, as well as good management of the economy might just have been too much for some people to handle- for some reason- and figured Bush could somehow keep it going (or make it even better )
barbtries
(28,794 posts)we just need to get out the vote. that must happen.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Tries to sing the voters to sleep...
"lull-la-by, do not vote,
just stay home in no-vem-ber,
you don't like that Black Guy
so why not just stay home..
Even if, Mitt wins..
he is a mod-er-ate
and in Twen-ty sixteen
you can vote Hill-ar-y!"
Dont fall for it gang.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)GOTV
(3,759 posts)Why bother to go out of your way to the polling booth if it's a lock?
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)and they'll think, 'Obama's going to win so I don't need to vote'
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)I think he will win in a landslide.
GWEchols4MR
(2 posts)I'm LDS and I believe that we deserve a President that is a religious. What we get with MR is a man who can confer with a living prophet. Yes the President of the LDS church is a true prophet who can speak to God. Don't you think we need that in today's world? Blessings!
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)liberalnationalist
(170 posts)but Raw Money's brand of Mormanism is not
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)But irregulars should certainly press the matter; it is too rich on too many levels not to....
"We must always respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the degree we respect his belief his wife is beautiful and his children smart."