2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill the GOP try to rig 2016?
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/06/now_theyre_trying_to_steal_2016_the_demented_gop_schemes_to_rewire_the_electoral_college_and_elect_a_tea_party_president/Ever notice how they NEVER, EVER talk about spltting electoral votes in safe, red states....
Shows how defeatist the GOP is, they just had a successful mid-term election, but realize they cannot win a presidential election unless they rig the electoral college...
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)will they get away with it?
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)They are immune from any kind of consequences because they have a huge, screaming, 24 hour media machine that drowns out any attempts to expose their cheating.
RussBLib
(9,008 posts)All those pre-election polls showed super-tight races, and then all those races were won by the GOP with 5%, 10%, 15% margins. People ask, how could the pre-election polls have been so wrong?
What if they weren't wrong? The election machines could have been manipulated, and yet no one, save BradBlog, even thinks to raise the question.
Today's Dems are such a spineless collection it's really discouraging.
elleng
(130,895 posts)but not so 'demented' for them. They plan way in advance, have been doing so through their state organizations for a long time, and they 'own' a lot of the states now.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)with voter id schemes. Do you think 2 yrs is too short for people to counter these schemes, by getting the id?
samsingh
(17,595 posts)SamKnause
(13,102 posts)purge people from the voting lists
close voting places
'run out' of ballots
and the list goes on and on.
The election process in the U.S. is corrupt.
The government of the U.S. is corrupt.
The U.S. government does not promote or believe in any type of democracy.
I am sick of the lies.
I am sick of the dog and pony show.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)the elections. They'd be out of their minds to stop. Correct?
DFW
(54,372 posts)They know what election results will be if they DON'T cheat. That's why they will cheat.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Euphoria
(448 posts)brooklynite
(94,535 posts)...but won't have the wherewithal to try it.
CaptainTruth
(6,590 posts)In 2004 the IT company working for Bush got the contract to provide backup PCs for Ohio's election servers. They crashed the OH servers at 11:13 pm & vote counting shifted to the backup servers. Precincts reporting after that shifted 6% for Bush, enough for him to win OH & become president. The data from those precincts is crazy. Some reported twice as many Bush votes as registered voters. A heavily Republican area reported 90+% turnout while a nearby Democratic area reported less than 10% turnout. The votes have been studied pre & post server crash, & the votes reported after the crash (tallied on computers supplied by the same company that provided IT services for Bush's campaign) are clearly fraudulent.
Remember how Rove didn't want to call Ohio 4 years later in 2008? I watched him live & he was really flustered, almost desperate. That's because they tried it again. They crashed the OH election servers at 11:12 pm (1 minute earlier than in 2004) & the vote tallying shifted to "their" computers. Thankfully Ohio got their server back up quickly & took over the vote counting again so Rove wasn't able to throw the election. That's why he wanted to hold off so long on calling Ohio & was so upset by it. He knew they were going to crash Ohio's servers & alter the vote count, but he didn't see the results he expected.
An IT tech that worked on this with Rove testified about his role, how they did it, & was killed shortly after in a suspicious small plane crash.
What's sad to me is, even though I've provided information on this to politicians & news organizations, no one seems to give a shit. There is real, documented evidence of a stolen election, & no one seems to care.
They will do it again, & they'll continue to talk about voter fraud to distract from the fraud they commit AFTER the votes are cast.
Get ready for some outrageous numbers, rivaling what we saw in 2000. I suspect the Dem candidate will once again win the popular vote by a significant margin. I also suspect that the Republicans will be ready for this eventuality. They underestimated the margin in key states in 2008 - so I believe the "flip" in 2016 will exceed 6%. Of course, the media will disparage any who question the outcome. We have to eliminate electronic voting in many states to have a chance in the electoral college.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Voter suppression in 2010 and 2012 is an indicator. And the courts have been bought in lots of states.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)santamargarita
(3,170 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)try to prevent me from crapping on Reagan's grave.
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AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)They actually did try in 2012.....and despite the massive Tea Party wave in 2010(yes, it was quite a bit larger than this year!), despite suspiciously crappy voting machines, and these frankly unconstitutional voter ID laws, the lack of a truly significant recovery for the 99%, etc., they still didn't win; Romney was about the best candidate they could've had, and even with all that, they couldn't win. And now we're seeing Obama finally fully come out of his shell, and people finally rising up against police brutality, etc.
We may have suffered one last setback, but we're far from down and out yet.
calimary
(81,238 posts)"does the Pope shit in the woods with Catholic bears?"
mother earth
(6,002 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)2naSalit
(86,591 posts)Does a bear sh*t in the woods?