2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Undocumented – Their “Crime” is That They Love America
Good news and bad news. First the bad news.
The bad news is that I am virtually the only Anglo official in Florida who is prepared to explain why providing a path to citizenship for the undocumented would benefit everyone especially to an Anglo audience, which may not be immigrant-friendly.
The good news is that because Im almost the only one, I am often asked to do so. In fact, it happened just a week ago, on the most-watched Anglo TV news channel in Central Florida. Here is what I said:
Greg Warmoth: (This is) Central Florida Spotlight, joined again by Orlando Congressman Alan Grayson. Again, thank you for being here. Lets talk about immigration. What do you envision on the immigration front for the New Year?
AMG: Not much. I thought the President (already) did what he felt was right, and I think it will cause a great deal of alleviation of suffering here locally. But I dont expect any further steps along the same lines. I dont expect Congress to take any action. But as for (the Presidents) immigration reform, I think that well see some benefits from the Presidents action rather quickly. We have a lot of people here locally who are undocumented and not paying taxes; now theyll have to pay taxes. We have a lot of people here locally who drive on the roads without any form of insurance for their cars; now theyll have to get insurance for their cars. Thats (been) a danger to you, to me, to everybody else. So as we make progress in normalizing the lives of these people whose only real crime is that they love America so much they want to live here well find benefits to the whole community.
GW: What do you say to those who are on the opposite side of this? Ive seen posts (saying that if we provide a path to citizenship,) Well, if we do this, then whos going to work on our farms? And I think a lot of people are critical of that comment or that statement, because (it implies that) therefore, you like the fact there are people that are undocumented, not paying taxes (and) stuck in the minimum wage. Its not even that (much).
AMG: Well, in fact, whats happened is that the undocumented have eroded labor standards throughout the entire local economy, and that is unfortunate. Theres no practical way to solve that problem except to bring them into the local economy in the same way that everyone else is. We dont treat them as second-class citizens; we treat them as non-citizens. And the result of that is that theyre often not paid the minimum wage; that drags down labor markets for everyone else. They work without benefits; that drags down the labor market for everyone else. And in general, because of their undocumented legal status, they provide unfair competition to everyone else. Now well see an end to that, as they become normalized and legalized.
GW: So you think, for both sides, this is what needs to happen? This is good for the country?
AMG: I think that theres no doubt about it. If you look at the billions and billions of dollars that will come into the national economy and the local economy simply because were normalizing the status of these five million or six million people, I think it will be a dramatic improvement for everyone involved.
Im not sure that my Anglo audience would have wanted to hear this, but there is another fundamental rationale for a path to citizenship for the undocumented: We are all the sons and daughters of immigrants, and we are all the children of God. Lets treat each other with dignity and respect.
Courage,
Rep. Alan Grayson
Igel
(37,541 posts)Often wrong.
I've known a lot of undocumented immigrants who love America.
Because they get more money for their jobs.
Because they avoid hassles in their home country.
Because even though unemployed it's where their significant other is.\
Because their kids can get a better education here and maybe have a better life.
It's not the country they like. It's what's in it for them. Seldom was it a "big fuzzy" like the Constitution, or freedom of speech and assembly. It usually boiled down to money or personal safety or who they were sleeping with. Sometimes it boiled down to their children's money or personal safety.
Additional evidence? Some didn't want to be called Americans. They were proud Mexicans, Brazilians, Salvadorans, and said they didn't like it here. Except for what was holding them. They'd go back if they could. Many insisted they were here temporarily, until they had kids. Now they're aspirational returnees. Meanwhile they want their kids to keep "their" home country's culture. Language. Traditions. They don't like the generic American traditions. Their kids often disagree and that leads to fights.
I've also known many who loved it here in general--perhaps not liking a specific trait or feature, but in general liking their new country.
The point is that either stereotype is pernicious and manipulative.