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4now

(1,596 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:22 PM Apr 2015

Back in Baltimore, Martin O’Malley is heckled, and could face political fallout

Former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley was heckled on a street corner in riot-scarred West Baltimore Tuesday, after he cut short a trip to Europe to return to the city he led as mayor for seven years.

O’Malley (D), who is preparing to launch a White House bid, waded into a crowd near the burned-out shell of a CVS pharmacy that was destroyed and looted Monday night. He was confronted by two men on motorcycles who shouted expletives and blamed the recent violence in the city on O’Malley’s tough-on-crime policies from 1999 to 2007.

“I just wanted to be present. There’s a lot of pain in our city right now, a lot of people feeling very sad,” O’Malley told reporters at the scene. “Look, we’ve got to come through this together. We’re a people who’ve seen worse days, and we’ll come through this day.”

In his travels to early nominating states, O’Malley has described Baltimore to Democratic audiences as a down-on-its-luck city that came to believe in its potential again while he was mayor. He has trumpeted progress made during his tenure, including a steep drop in violent crime, which is attributed in part to a zero-tolerance approach that led to a sharp increase in arrests.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/back-in-baltimore-omalley-seeks-healing-could-face-political-fallout/2015/04/28/1fc4fc54-ede7-11e4-a55f-38924fca94f9_story.html

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Back in Baltimore, Martin O’Malley is heckled, and could face political fallout (Original Post) 4now Apr 2015 OP
Remember reading this...wonder how it will play out. For the Mayor, who wants to be a Senator libdem4life Apr 2015 #1
Looks like he ignored alot of local problems. I'm calling it now he won't be nominee. craigmatic Apr 2015 #2
BS. O'Malley left as Mayor in Baltimore in Nov 2007. FSogol Apr 2015 #15
Keep in mind - packman Apr 2015 #18
Isn't that true in every State & every area? No one claimed there were no poor people in Maryland. FSogol Apr 2015 #19
True - just wanted to give some info packman Apr 2015 #20
Anne Arundel is pretty good too. I live in Arnold and yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #29
Hillary has wall street money, the media, and the PUMAS. it's a done deal Doctor_J Apr 2015 #39
This could give Hillary a chance to pull the upset . . . nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #3
Upset? Rebubula Apr 2015 #4
It was a joke. nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #5
Sorry...drunk in Texas today Rebubula Apr 2015 #6
Horrible move by O'Malley. joshcryer Apr 2015 #7
BS. He moved away from the zero tolerance policy while still in office back in 2006. FSogol Apr 2015 #11
Alternet joshcryer Apr 2015 #21
Wasn't Steele his LT Governor? He is closet with O'Malley yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #30
No. Steele was Erlich's LT Orangepeel Apr 2015 #33
Oh thanks. I forgot. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #36
Steele was Ehlrich's LT Governor. Steele went on to be the leader of the GOP. FSogol Apr 2015 #34
I need them bad. I even live in Maryland and forgot that yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #37
Hee-hhee. I'm with you there. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #38
O'Malley is done - he was mayor and then governor. He owns this situation as much as anyone does Justice Apr 2015 #8
BS. Here's O'Malley at the meetings yesterday without bodyguards or cameramen. FSogol Apr 2015 #12
Ah shoot, was looking forward to him giving Hillary a run for the money..... a kennedy Apr 2015 #9
Notice that the article attributes Laura Vozzella in Richmond as helping the article? FSogol Apr 2015 #13
Another BS article. Two men blamed O'Malley while ingoring the fact that he left the Mayor's office FSogol Apr 2015 #10
They remember when there were 100k arrests in a city of 640k. joshcryer Apr 2015 #22
And pretending he was still in charge beyond the Fall of 2007 doesn't work either. FSogol Apr 2015 #23
The policy didn't magically go away. joshcryer Apr 2015 #24
Exactly. bravenak Apr 2015 #27
He moved away from that policy while still in office. FSogol Apr 2015 #28
Hanging out with protestors in front of the camera Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #14
He lives in Baltimore. That's his home. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #16
I know. He came home in front of the cameras. Evergreen Emerald Apr 2015 #17
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Xyzse Apr 2015 #25
There was a Democratic Assemblyman giving O'Malley hell yesterday. He was definitely not a fan. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #26
Do you think there is a single politician or leader alive that gets 100% agreement from everyone? FSogol Apr 2015 #31
Fox news is on his case, and so are the DU fox addicts Doctor_J Apr 2015 #32
Yup, repeating attacks from Michael "Prevaricator" Steele. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #35
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
1. Remember reading this...wonder how it will play out. For the Mayor, who wants to be a Senator
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:48 PM
Apr 2015

she's not looking too good, either.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
15. BS. O'Malley left as Mayor in Baltimore in Nov 2007.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:48 AM
Apr 2015

Why blame him, yet cut a break to the people in charge the last 7-1/2 years?

O'Malley, as Mayor of Baltimore (Dec 1999-Nov 2007) followed a policy of zero tolerance, also know as the broken windows policy as did almost every major city in the US. Every major city switched to that form of policing in the mid to late 90s because of the drop in NYC's crime rate. By the mid 00s, everyone was moving away from it due to over-policing, arresting innocent people, profiling, etc. He employed those policies when he arrived as Mayor, but moved away from them for the reasons stated. The number of arrests dropped each year in Baltimore as did the crime rate.

By the end of his Mayoral term he moved away from that policy. He did not employ those methods as Governor. Unlike say, Giuliani, O'Malley changed, evolved, and modified his approach until he got a fairer/more workable system.

From a 2010 article in the Baltimore Sun:

A lawsuit filed in 2006 on behalf of 14 people alleged that their arrests indicated a broad pattern of abuse in which thousands of people were routinely arrested without probable cause. The suit also alleged that the so-called "zero tolerance" system was endorsed and enforced by city officials under the tenure of then-mayor Martin O'Malley.

In a joint statement with the plaintiffs, the police department said it has agreed to institute policies that reject the "zero tolerance policing" and establish a range of appropriate officer responses to minor offenses. The department will issue written directives that spell out the elements of common minor offenses to ensure that officers are aware of the scope of their authority, and will train every officer on the new policies for offenses, the statement said.

Arrests in the city have fallen by the tens of thousands since O'Malley became governor, and the ACLU and NAACP said in the statement that they recognize that the current city leadership has taken steps to address the issue and "applaud those efforts."


As for what he ignored, here's a partial list of what he did:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

and how he left the state following his turn as Governor:

With a balanced approach of spending cuts, regulatory reform, and modern investment in education, innovation, and infrastructure, Governor O’Malley and his Administration are making better choices that are delivering better results, including:

Fastest rate of job growth in the region.
#1 ranking for best public schools in America for an unprecedented five years in a row (Education Week).
#1 ranking for holding down the cost of college tuition (College Board).
#1 ranking for innovation and entrepreneurship for two years running (U.S. Chamber of Commerce).

Under the Governor’s leadership, Maryland also ranks:

#1 nationally in median income,
#1 in Ph.D. scientists and researchers per capita,
#1 in Research and Development, and
#1 in businesses owned by women.


So, spare me the calling it now crap.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
18. Keep in mind -
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:51 AM
Apr 2015

#1 ranking for best public schools in America for an unprecedented five years in a row (Education Week.

That #1 ranking is due to the power and influence of the "down-county" school systems in Maryland - Montgomery and Prince George's which would sway any ranking. Pit those two against Baltimore's and you would see a huge statistical difference. Both are counties that have signifigance influence in any of the categories named above. They are an aberration- two power house counties, not the norm in Maryland in wages, occupations, kids sent to college, research, business, etc.

Sort of like having a thousand dollars in one hand and a penny in another and bragging about how rich you are.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
19. Isn't that true in every State & every area? No one claimed there were no poor people in Maryland.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:51 PM
Apr 2015
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
20. True - just wanted to give some info
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:02 PM
Apr 2015

on Maryland some might not be aware of - it's a state with several super-rich counties and several very poor cousins.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. Anne Arundel is pretty good too. I live in Arnold and
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:14 PM
Apr 2015

Severna Park is the number one school in the country.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
39. Hillary has wall street money, the media, and the PUMAS. it's a done deal
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:35 PM
Apr 2015

Maybe a couple of more populist dems can drag her a tiny bit to the left

Rebubula

(2,868 posts)
4. Upset?
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:06 PM
Apr 2015

It would be an upset if OMALLEY won.

Hillary is the front runner. Anyone else winning would be the upset.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
11. BS. He moved away from the zero tolerance policy while still in office back in 2006.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:32 AM
Apr 2015

Why spread rw smears? Why repeat crap from Michael Steele and Joe Scarborough?

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
21. Alternet
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:37 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/presidential-hopeful-omalley-was-warned-his-police-strategy-would-produce-more

Any fool could've told O'Malley that he wouldn't be able to control the narrative. His "liberal cred" can easily be demolished in one campaign ad quoting Baltimore protesters.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
34. Steele was Ehlrich's LT Governor. Steele went on to be the leader of the GOP.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:20 PM
Apr 2015

Remember to take your memory pills.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
12. BS. Here's O'Malley at the meetings yesterday without bodyguards or cameramen.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:37 AM
Apr 2015


He's there to help. Notice the absence of all other politicians? Cowardly Rand Paul expressed gladness that his train didn't stop in Baltimore. O'Malley is on the ground meeting people, finding out what can help the situation.




Where is Gutless Gov Hogan? He's trying to solve a policing problem by getting more police.

a kennedy

(29,706 posts)
9. Ah shoot, was looking forward to him giving Hillary a run for the money.....
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:47 AM
Apr 2015

Dang it. Do we care it came from the Washington Post or not?? Just asking. Although his tough on crime stance can come back to bite him in the arse.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
13. Notice that the article attributes Laura Vozzella in Richmond as helping the article?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:42 AM
Apr 2015

Why did Maryland Reporter John Wagner need input from a Right Wing tea-party scribe based in Richmond, Virginia, 150 miles from Baltimore to help with an O'Malley hit piece? More pathetic dreck from a once great paper.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
10. Another BS article. Two men blamed O'Malley while ingoring the fact that he left the Mayor's office
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:29 AM
Apr 2015

in Nov 2007. Everyone else was happy to see him.

From a recent Washington Post article (not containing input from Richmond-based tea-party scribe Laura Vozzella)

“What was positive was that there was zero-tolerance for criminals and drug dealers locking down neighborhoods and taking neighborhoods hostage,” said the Rev. Franklin Madison Reid, a Baltimore pastor. “Does that mean there was no down side? No. But the bottom line was that the city was in a lot stronger position as a city after he became mayor.”

Benjamin T. Jealous, a former president of the national NAACP who worked with O’Malley when Maryland abolished the death penalty in 2013, credited him for supporting a civilian review board as mayor and for a sharp drop in police shootings that occurred during that time. Jealous said O’Malley’s “mass incarceration” police strategy is “a separate issue” than police brutality, and “a conversation for a different day.”“It was a period where a lot of mayors were doing whatever they could to try to reduce crime,” Jealous said.


and

Over the past year, as he has criss-crossed the country, O’Malley has talked about alleged police misconduct in places such as Ferguson, Mo. and North Charleston, S.C. On Saturday, he called Gray’s death “another awful and horrific loss of life.”
“Whether it’s a police custodial death or a police-involved shooting,” O’Malley said, “we all have a responsibility to ask whether there’s something we can do to prevent such a loss of life from happening in the future.”

Earlier this month, at a civil rights event convened by the Rev. Al Sharpton, O’Malley said his crime-reduction efforts as mayor saved many lives. “There are a thousand fewer black men in Baltimore who died violent deaths over the last 15 years than otherwise would have died had we not come together.”

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
22. They remember when there were 100k arrests in a city of 640k.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:42 PM
Apr 2015

Sugar coating O'Malley's policies doesn't change that he is responsible for a shitty police force that does rough rides.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
23. And pretending he was still in charge beyond the Fall of 2007 doesn't work either.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:45 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:20 PM - Edit history (1)



Congratulations, your thinking is shared by GOP intellectual giant, Michael Steele.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
28. He moved away from that policy while still in office.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:12 PM
Apr 2015

Zero tolerance policing in the 1990s-2000s is a separate subject from police brutality.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
14. Hanging out with protestors in front of the camera
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 09:44 AM
Apr 2015

Using this tragedy for political gain. It has a bit of ick factor.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
25. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:03 PM
Apr 2015

I can forgive the ick factor in this one.
It is his area/home, so it is good to come back.

In this case, it is better to just do so rather than be slammed for being heartless and not paying attention.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,240 posts)
26. There was a Democratic Assemblyman giving O'Malley hell yesterday. He was definitely not a fan.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:06 PM
Apr 2015

That doesn't bode well for a national campaign.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
31. Do you think there is a single politician or leader alive that gets 100% agreement from everyone?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:18 PM
Apr 2015


He won reelection as Mayor of Baltimore in 2003 with 87% of the vote and when he ran for Governor...

The Baltimore Sun endorsed O'Malley, saying: "When he was first elected mayor in 1999, the former two-term city councilman inherited a city of rising crime, failing schools, and shrinking economic prospects. He was able to reverse course in all of these areas." The Washington Post criticized O'Malley for "not solv[ing] the problems of rampant crime and rough schools in Baltimore, but he put a dent in them,"
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