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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:12 AM May 2015

Elizabeth Warren Wants Hillary Clinton To 'Weigh In On Trade'

Elizabeth Warren should also make each and everyone of the GOP candidates say what their positions on TPP and fast track are.

As the fight over a massive international trade agreement heats up on Capitol Hill, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said on Tuesday that she wants to see Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton "weigh in on trade."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/19/elizabeth-warren_n_7337274.html

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Elizabeth Warren Wants Hillary Clinton To 'Weigh In On Trade' (Original Post) UCmeNdc May 2015 OP
Very Good Sherman A1 May 2015 #1
She has, and is quite clear with her reasoned response. There are several threads about Hoyt May 2015 #2
the one where she said she's been for trade agreements and against trade agreements? frylock May 2015 #15
bullshit and nothing but. She's equivocated and obfuscated cali May 2015 #35
Like you provide evidence. She had clearly stated what the final agreement must include for her Hoyt May 2015 #36
Please explain to me why I should give a shit what giftedgirl77 May 2015 #3
Please could you respond with a bit more decorum awake May 2015 #6
Or nah. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #31
My sentiments exactly. ucrdem May 2015 #23
Thank you.... giftedgirl77 May 2015 #24
"she is she is the new jesus new shit or something" NYC_SKP May 2015 #25
I'm Puerto Rican NYC SKiP... giftedgirl77 May 2015 #27
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Well... kenfrequed May 2015 #37
I don't think you can "hippie punch" someone that was a giftedgirl77 May 2015 #38
who is the republican? kenfrequed May 2015 #39
I'm talking about Senator Warren, the person the entire thread giftedgirl77 May 2015 #40
Are you saying.. kenfrequed May 2015 #41
Annoying BeyondGeography May 2015 #4
+1 leftofcool May 2015 #5
Co-sign. Jamaal510 May 2015 #17
" " " " n/t MBS May 2015 #20
Huh? You don't think it's important for Hillary to give an opinion on something as important as TPP? Dawgs May 2015 #8
I think it's important for non-candidates to let the candidates fight it out amongst themselves BeyondGeography May 2015 #9
I disagree. Dawgs May 2015 #10
Well, Warren agrees with you apparently BeyondGeography May 2015 #11
I agree on Warren. I wish she would enter the race as well. n/t Dawgs May 2015 #12
Don't you think that politicians should have to state their opinions? BrotherIvan May 2015 #19
She has.... MaggieD May 2015 #28
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Why is it annoying? Elizabeth Warren is interested in improving the lot of ALL Americans. She Cal33 May 2015 #22
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K & R !!! WillyT May 2015 #13
The answer is simple. Hillary Clinton is FOR the TPP. NorthCarolina May 2015 #14
Clear as a bell. It's too early to talk about issues before staff and PACs and big fundraising libdem4life May 2015 #16
She's too much of a coward to weigh in. AtomicKitten May 2015 #18
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+1 davidpdx May 2015 #43
Say Nothing. Do Nothing......Be Nothing.......nt quadrature May 2015 #21
Well if she does, I hope she's a lot more truthful on the TPP than Sen Warren has been. Hoyt May 2015 #26
heheheh grasswire May 2015 #29
Don't we all 4dsc May 2015 #42

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Very Good
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:15 AM
May 2015

I think that it is important to understand the positions of all the candidates on this and many, many other issues.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. She has, and is quite clear with her reasoned response. There are several threads about
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:31 AM
May 2015

it right here on DU. Maybe you could send Warren a link.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
15. the one where she said she's been for trade agreements and against trade agreements?
Wed May 20, 2015, 04:31 PM
May 2015

maybe you could help us out with a link?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
35. bullshit and nothing but. She's equivocated and obfuscated
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:54 AM
May 2015

only partisans call that being 'quite clear'. Warren doesn't need a link. She's correct. You are wrong- and as ever you provide no evidence for your claims.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
36. Like you provide evidence. She had clearly stated what the final agreement must include for her
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:00 AM
May 2015

support. That is infinitely better than the hyperbolic rants from you, Warren, Sanders, etc.

awake

(3,226 posts)
6. Please could you respond with a bit more decorum
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:42 AM
May 2015

I see no need to speak harshly of a fellow Demorcrate

Response to awake (Reply #6)

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
24. Thank you....
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:49 PM
May 2015

Last edited Fri May 22, 2015, 12:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Some around around here act like I should give a give a damn about her like she is she is the new jesus or something.

I'm atheist btw so I don't believe in Jesus unless he's my cousin.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
27. I'm Puerto Rican NYC SKiP...
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:22 AM
May 2015

My cousin's are named Jesus, get it? Just like you referred to to Snoop as a it instead of a a he? In Latin culture it is common to name you name your children after children Jesus.

Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #24)

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
37. Well...
Fri May 22, 2015, 10:22 AM
May 2015

If you are a progressive that gives a crap about reigning in and regulating the banks, about American jobs and living wage, and about economic progressivism at all then maybe you should care a little bit.

Warren has a much better record in all of these areas than Hillary does and an endorsement by Warren would probably assuage many of the progressives that have serious questions about where Hillary stands, particularly when Hillary has received so much money from banks and large financial institutions.

But if you would prefer to just hang out and 'hippie punch' I guess you could do that too.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
38. I don't think you can "hippie punch" someone that was a
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:28 AM
May 2015

Republican less than 20 years ago but nice try.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
39. who is the republican?
Fri May 22, 2015, 11:40 AM
May 2015

I am talking about center right Democrats and their desire to come o to this website to catigate any candidate left of center.

Interesting how you didn't interface with anytbing else in my post.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
40. I'm talking about Senator Warren, the person the entire thread
Fri May 22, 2015, 12:13 PM
May 2015

is about & whom I was talking about when you responded to me.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
41. Are you saying..
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
May 2015

Are you saying that when someone moves from one end of the political spectrum to the other they can't be more progressive than Hillary Clinton? That isn't even a proper argument. I can see I am not going to get any reasonable discussion out of you. Ciao.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
4. Annoying
Wed May 20, 2015, 07:04 AM
May 2015

Maybe HRC should weigh in on whether Elizabeth Warren should be telling her what to talk about and when.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
8. Huh? You don't think it's important for Hillary to give an opinion on something as important as TPP?
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:28 AM
May 2015

You know she's running for President, right? Using the excuse that she hasn't declared yet won't work anymore.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
9. I think it's important for non-candidates to let the candidates fight it out amongst themselves
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:50 AM
May 2015

This is called having your cake and eating it too. Warren had the chance to run and didn't. If Sanders or anyone else in the fray (i.e. O'Malley, who is going to announce soon) said the same thing, it wouldn't bother me in the least.


 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
10. I disagree.
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:54 AM
May 2015

If a candidate can't answer a question, even when asked by a non opponent, then maybe there's a problem with that candidate.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
11. Well, Warren agrees with you apparently
Wed May 20, 2015, 08:59 AM
May 2015

Whether hectoring from the sidelines is the best step for her is something she'll have to decide.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
19. Don't you think that politicians should have to state their opinions?
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:54 AM
May 2015

They are either currently working for or interviewing for a position with the people of this country. It is entirely fair for any American to ask what a politician thinks, especially one that wants to run for higher office. I don't understand the idea that a politician is entitled to hide what they think about issues that would effect a great swath of people in this country. I would expect any Republican to answer when asked and if not, they should be questioned repeatedly. Public service is not private in regards to issues. If a person doesn't want to voice their position, then they don't want the job. I'm not talking about just Hillary, but ALL of them.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
28. She has....
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:59 AM
May 2015

And she just said, like TWO days ago, that she would weigh in again once the final deal is up for comment.


Response to Dawgs (Reply #8)

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
22. Why is it annoying? Elizabeth Warren is interested in improving the lot of ALL Americans. She
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:49 PM
May 2015

is a US senator, and, as such, she is trying to do what she can to see to it that HRC is doing the same.

Response to Cal33 (Reply #22)

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
14. The answer is simple. Hillary Clinton is FOR the TPP.
Wed May 20, 2015, 11:07 AM
May 2015

The mood of the voters on this issue is no secret, the majority are overwhelmingly against it. If Hillary's views were in sync with voters on this issue she would already be fundraising for being against it. Since she is vague at best "I'm for some trade agreements, and against others" that tells you ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW. No if's, and's or but's...she's FOR IT. You can take that to the bank.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
16. Clear as a bell. It's too early to talk about issues before staff and PACs and big fundraising
Wed May 20, 2015, 06:11 PM
May 2015

begins. She, as do all politicians, has to "vet" her staff and they have to "vet" her. You can bet most all positions are pretty well set in stone. Now we call it "Listening". It does seem early and already tiresome, but that's what 24/7 viral exposure gets you. There's now video if you're caught speaking out of varying sides of your mouth. One must be very careful...even at fundraisers.

All they have to do is put together a little "short" on tidbits of conversation/comments/rantings from the past. Brought to mind by the one I just saw of Christie being an Royal Ass. A little video artistry and he looks triple stupid.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. She's too much of a coward to weigh in.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:21 AM
May 2015

Considering she participated in writing it, gave speeches touting it, and accepted donations via the foundation (wink-wink) from those in the industry promoting it, it is absurd to pretend she doesn't support it. She's just too much of a coward to come out and own it.

Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #18)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
26. Well if she does, I hope she's a lot more truthful on the TPP than Sen Warren has been.
Fri May 22, 2015, 01:09 AM
May 2015

I think Clinton's responses ti date are a lot more reasoned/truthful than Warren's.

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