Hillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal.

[UCmeNdc]

Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clinton’s record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats inher final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members — he was not more liberal than Clinton.

Clinton also has a history of very liberal public statements. Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She isas liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama.

Sometimes I wonder whether people are confusing Clinton with her husband. Bill Clinton’s statements have been far more moderate. He has also had a more moderate donor base, according to Adam Bonica’s fundraising scores.


http://crooksandliars.com/2015/05/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary

[djean111]

1. No, I am not confusing Hillary with her husband.

But thanks for sorta assuming that if someone does not support Hillary, they are just confused.

[Persondem]

2. Thank you for posting this.

I fear that it is a reality that some Du-ers will have a problem embracing.

[Maedhros]

3. "We came, we saw, he died" she chortled with barely contained glee.

Anyone that would say something so callous after we destroyed a functioning nation and justified it with trumped-up claims of 'genocide' is nowhere near the kind of Liberal I want in the White House.

[Persondem]

4. Are you refering to this functioning nation?

Libya -

"As part of his "cultural revolution" he banned all private enterprise and unsound books were burned.
He also had dissidents based abroad murdered. Freedom of speech and association were absolutely squashed and acts of violent repression were numerous. "

from this BBC article


Or this functioning country? Iraq -

"Al-Anfal Campaign: In 1988, the Hussein regime began a campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern Iraq. This is known as the Anfal campaign. The attacks resulted in the death of at least 182,000 people, many of them women and children. A team of Human Rights Watch investigators determined, after analyzing eighteen tons of captured Iraqi documents, testing soil samples and carrying out interviews with more than 350 witnesses, that the attacks on the Kurdish people were characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass executions and disappearances of many tens of thousands of noncombatants, widespread use of chemical weapons including Sarin, mustard gas and nerve agents that killed thousands, the arbitrary imprisoning of tens of thousands of women, children, and elderly people for months in conditions of extreme deprivation, forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of villagers after the demolition of their homes, and the wholesale destruction of nearly two thousand villages along with their schools, mosques, farms and power stations.[3][4]"

From this wiki page

I am not sure how you like nations to function, but I doubt most people would have volunteered to move to either country while their respective dictators were in power.

[4dsc]

5. Centrists are not liberals

So we can take the pretext that Hillary is a liberal off the table.

Centrists are responsible for the disaster that occurred during the 2014 elections and we must either learn from that or face the same in 2016.

[sendero]

6. That's why...

... she voted for a war even WORSE than Vietnam, a war that a retard could tell we were being lied into.

I could go on and on but why bother. HRC is a "liberal" like Obama was a "progressive", i.e. in words only.

[RDANGELO]

7. what is her economic plan?

I've seen her statements from the past and her voting record. I want to hear policy proposals. That's what we are not getting.

[RufusTFirefly]

8. She co-sponsored a bill to criminalize flag-burning

You can't get more liberal than that!!

[RufusTFirefly]

9. The OnTheIssues scale is straight out of Alice's Wonderland. Here's Political Compass

http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008

[PDittie]

10. Really? Seemed pretty accurate to me.

[RufusTFirefly]

11. Confirmation bias is a beautiful thing

You consider the President to be a "hard-core liberal," too?
If you do, the two of us reside on different planets.

How's the weather up there?

[PDittie]

15. No I don't.

I'm not a fan at all as a matter of fact. I think he's a corporatist and a militarist as well as a centrist, precisely not what I voted for in 2008.

I must be missing something you are getting w/r/t the chart.

[RufusTFirefly]

16. Pssst! Go back and read the OP!

Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She isas liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama.

[PDittie]

17. Pssst! I was referring to the chart you posted!

It shows a dot representing Obama near the center. So what's your problem with me going to be next?

[Persondem]

14. No methodology that I could find

Anyone can put dots on a graph. In fact that website lets anyone do just that. I have seen similar graphs that show Clinton left of Kennedy.

[larksmaryland]

12. more liberal

two or three weeks ago, all of the weekend news programs were talking about how her campaign was trying to frame her as the Elizabeth before Elizabeth Warren

[Splinter Cell]

13. Bullshit.