TPM Poll: Bernie Sanders (44.8%) Hillary Clinton (36.6%) Martin O'Malley (1%)
These numbers stunned me.
Bernie Sanders (44.8%)
Hillary Clinton (36.6%)
Martin O'Malley (1%)
I think what offsets ideology here is that these are, like all "opinion leaders", very politically active and well read and they talk to other people about politics a lot. That makes them less likely to default to the establishment candidate. Still, for voters who aren't that far to the left, that is a very impressive number.
more interesting stuff:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/how-tpm-readers-view-the-sanders-phenomenon
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President McGovern just lurrrvs it!
to a Democratic Party voter, again, is a choice between two opposing same Party ideologies. Centrist left politics from someone who has proven time and again they could care less about the middle and lower middle class voter especially POC but knows we have no other choice.....except a democratic socialist who thinks a job will solve all the problems for people of color who are poor and subject to the nationwide NEW Jim Crow segregation, abrogation of civil, voting and human rights at the hands of the militarized occupation army of the new oligarchy class or 1%, the super rich, They, who are slowly taking those rights, really, from everyone. They run the media, they handle and control all politicians, except one so far, I guess. MalcolmX told us what that media control means for the masses and a lot of uninformed, wedge issue buying voters have proved his point, in fact, from every election since his assassination in 1968.
One group of supporters here is saying continually saying STFU to voters who have any concern about any perceived flaws of their candidate, who are usually POC, but not exclusively. The other group of supporters are telling us, "trust our candidate, the past is the past with our candidate and should be left there, this is a new day". While the same old 1%ers are filling that candidates coffers and me knowing, if elected, who will own that candidates soul to one degree or another. Just american politics, money drives the political system and the 1%ers, the monied class, owns it.
My idealism failed me with the Atwater-Nixon reality of how one wedge issue could be used to co-opt one entire political party, turn it on its ear and leave behind dregs of that strategy that have been plaguing POC and the dirt poor middle and lower classes for 40+ years. With more and more being driven into relative poverty, every day.
WE DON'T HAVE A REAL CHOICE!!!! Unless one of the candidates proves to be true to their word of wanting to and actually helping POC survive the occupation army disguised as police forces that 'protect and serve' their communities. We do know what they protect and who they serve. Unless one candidate, who has seen some light in the last three weeks or so, is really understanding/ knowing that the jobs meme must be just A priority. Who has seen other priorities make themselves known in tragic ways and are issues to be dealt with outside of the need for jobs. Voting and civil rights must be restored BEFORE this election. Unless that candidate stands up tall, either candidate, then that candidate is just another typical offer, with two bad options this time, to vote for.
That is the only way the candidate we choose is going to win. One candidate must show some humility and grace in accepting responsibility for causing a perceptions of their racism, true or not. One must assure us bankers and the monied class won't own that candidates soul, if that candidate wins the GE. One has laid out pretty good policy proposals to help those struggling with the overwhelming burden of a college/banking system that loads a potential graduate with huge debt. That candidate has offered decent hard working and retired folks of our country relief from the creepublicans trying to take our "entitlements" away, for our own good..
. Laudable proposals by that candidate, yet falls short of addressing important issues affecting america's racial cohesion because of the lack of equal justice faced by millions of decent hardworking americans trying to survive in this american culture as a specific race of american. A race that has had to remind other races that #Black Lives Matter...
Voting, civil, racial and social rights, equality and justice, of all americans, is the immediate top priorities we should all be, locally, statewide and nationally concentrating on this next election. No matter who we, the Democratic Party voter, ends up with as our 'leader' and hopefully, the nations. Just meandering on what I feel I face in the upcoming choice of candidate to represent just, me.
