How many undecideds are here?

[RobertEarl]

I was thinking there were very few undecideds in the 'Bernie vs the world' show on DU. But I may be wrong?

The more I read the more I see that some here are still on the fence.

Please, if you are undecided tell us what is the one issue that heats you up the most.

[TexasProgresive]

1. I will decide who to vote for a day or so from the primary.

You might be thinking that there are few undecideds because they/we are staying out of the fray. There is too much uber defense and offense going on to be palatable. In my opinion none of this is changing any minds it's just a pissing match.

[world wide wally]

2. I honestly Ike them both and I get tired of us shooting ourselves. In the foot with all

the sniping going on in here

[irisblue]

3. me

Ohios' primary is in March 2016. I have a lot of time to decide. I am a member of (in alpha order) the Biden, the Clinton, the O'Malley & the Sanders groups. I will vote for the Dem nominee. This is my first contested primary season on DU; the vitriol & sanctimony of some posters is unbelievable and damaging.

[Trajan]

5. I don't get the undecideds ...

I've been on the earth for nearly sixty years ... I've been voting since second Nixon in 74 ...

NEVER a republican, ever ... So, that narrows the field considerably ...

I rarely had any trouble knowing many months in advance of the Primary Election who I was voting for ...

I was instantly in Bernie's camp as soon as I heard his policies ... No question ... No doubt .... easy win ...

What more do I need to hear? ... Not a damned thing more is necessary ...

[Ron Green]

6. I'm with you (although somewhat older) and

don't get how anyone who understands the difference between these two candidacies can be on the fence.

[brer cat]

7. There are more than two democratic candidates. nt

[Ron Green]

10. You're right, of course, and they're all better than

any of the Clown Car occupants.

My point is that there's such a gulf between the establishment choice and the transformational choice that anyone still undecided is missing something pretty big, in my opinion.

[Recursion]

12. Some people like to see how a candidate handles a campaign

As in, it's one thing for a candidate to have policies I agree with (for that matter I can't think of a particular policy Sanders proposes that I disagree with), and another for that candidate to handle stress, overwork, and handling a large organization well.

[Live and Learn]

16. What makes you think Bernie can't handle stress, overwork, and handling a big organization?

He has shown exemplary skills at all 3, both in the past and recently.

[Recursion]

17. The fact that he never has yet

Nothing on the level of a Presidential campaign.

[MH1]

18. Wanting to see how the campaign goes, doesn't mean

that one expects to see failure.

Personally, I like to take my time making a decision.

I want a choice other than Hillary. Turns out there's at least two good other choices, and it will be three if Biden jumps in. So I will take my time reviewing all the info I can get to decide which one I will vote for in the primary.

The desire to thoroughly review all the information on all the candidates is a reason I would like to see the DNC ditch their stupid rule about only participating in the "sanctioned" debates. I would love to see a Sanders-O'Malley joint town hall / debate. But it would probably run afoul of the DNC rule.

Also, just proclaiming the right positions is not the way to get my vote. I want to believe the person has what it takes to be effective in the role of President.

[Recursion]

20. I think a Sanders/O'Malley town hall would be breathtaking

And I personally think O'Malley would come out of that in a great position.

I would prefer the SEC simply make a better debate schedule. Failing that, I support O'Malley 100% if he goes off-reservation there, and I have a feeling that Team Sanders would be with us on that.

[Blasphemer]

8. I am undecided

Though I mostly lurk these days. The last 8 years turned me off from personality politics, AND caused me to be more cautious of supporting a candidate based on a platform without seriously probing what a presidency by said candidate would look like. Due to the many obligations in my life, I've had limited time to seriously analyze all of the candidates on the issues. I plan to take my time before deciding. For this reason, I am somewhat jealous of republicans and all of the options they have. Yes, they are all nuts, but it would have been nice to have a) more democratic candidates and b) early and frequent debates. I don't have any one "hot button" issue but I'd like to see productive discussion of many issues related to racial, environmental, economic and migrant justice, to name but a few.

[BillZBubb]

9. I'm still undecided.

Both Clinton and Sanders have a lot to offer. Clinton has the experience, smarts, and leadership to be a good president. Sanders has passion and a very appealing (and correct) economic philosophy.

For the negatives, Clinton is more centrist and even slightly to the right on some issues. She also is being hammered by the republicans to the point that they are winning the spin on her character. They are controlling the message and her unfavorables would make her unelectable if they can't be reversed.

Sanders lacks any foreign policy experience. He's not a long time Democrat (although he always votes like one). Sanders also is a self-proclaimed socialist, which in the USA is akin to bragging that you eat babies. If he gets the nomination, the republican noise machine will turn it sights on him and it could make Clinton's unfavorables look good in comparison.

Sorry that's more than one issue. My #1 issue is I want the next president to be a Democrat. I want whoever has the best chance to beat the right wing clown the republicans put up. As of yet, I'm not sure which Democrat that is.

[seaglass]

11. I am purposely undecided and keeping my mind open. n/t

[AngryAmish]

13. I was born a Deez Nuts man, I'll die a Deez Nuts man.

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. I've been undecided for quite some time.

Sometimes I like two sugars in my coffee, sometimes one.

Complicates my day.

[Shrek]

15. I'm one

Still plenty of time to ponder, and I like to keep my powder dry.

If DU has taught me anything over the last dozen years, it's the importance of dry powder.

[whatthehey]

19. I'm more of an unconcerned

Given the choice (which considering my primary date will be meaningless) I'd vote probably O'Malley then Sanders then Clinton in order of preference. However both objective data and subjective insight tell me their odds of being relevant at that point are exactly the reverse, and while I am not blind to their differences, the overall "scores" in my personal criteria are close enough that I truly don't mind which one wins. Sanders would be best at the bully pulpit but the worst at the necessary Machiavellian political infighting to pass his goals. O'Malley's policies echo mine most closely but Clinton has better chops to get anything achieved. Republicans would attack and obstruct any of them with equal fervor, but will have more grist for the mill with a compliant accusatory press and biased low info voter pool with Clinton "scandals" closely followed by Sanders "socialism". Clinton has and would project better global influence, etc. I'm no dewy eyed acolyte who imagines Sanders would magically become a Wilson clone or that Clinton will morph into a FDR or that O'Malley would become LBJ. None are perfect. All are acceptable and even laudable.

Strangely given my ranking I've only given money to Sanders so far. Clinton has a warchest and a rolodex that makes my level of giving meaningless and I'm seeing few signs so far that O'Malley donations would be any more use than burning the notes instead. At least Sanders has proven adept at getting conversations started and people enthusiastic, even if that's mostly already the activist core anyway.

[Lancero]

21. A party is more then just it's canidate...

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A while back, I'd have supported Bernie.

But seeing the shit throwing on both sides, I'm not going to pledge my vote to one candidate or another now. Unless something drastically changes between now and then, I'm just going to flip a coin come voting day.

Edit - Case in point, seeing 'supporters' posting shit like this is a major turn-off.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=535471