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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:28 PM Aug 2015

Debbie Wasserman Schultz's lame response

38 SECONDS. THIRTY EIGHT FREAKING SECONDS.
That’s how long DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz spent addressing the national call for more presidential debates. Here are her VERY brief remarks:
“The second one, which proposes that we increase the number of debates…
The policies established by which the DNC determines the process for debates, the establishment of the dates, how many there are, THAT IS THE PURVIEW OF THE CHAIR of the democratic national committee. That debate criteria has been negotiated over the last number of months, the debate schedule has been announced, and there is no provision available to have the DNC by motion increase or decrease or adopt criteria for those debates. So that point is well taken as well.”


Great insider takedown with links here:

VETERANS FOR BERNIE SANDERS
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=518009328349770&id=471628832987820
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Debbie Wasserman Schultz's lame response (Original Post) SHRED Aug 2015 OP
Well that's a nice little exclusive club they have there. L0oniX Aug 2015 #1
The raison d'etre of the DLC was elite control, the rebranding changed nothing HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #9
This is total bullshit. PassingFair Aug 2015 #2
I wonder what job DWS is looking for in a supposed Hillary cabinet...n/t monmouth4 Aug 2015 #3
Or at the Foundation, should the iceberg meet the ship. (nt) HappyPlace Aug 2015 #4
Well she was co chairman... SHRED Aug 2015 #5
Conflict of interest big time MissDeeds Aug 2015 #17
Maybe an ambassadorship. In a nice country, where they speak english Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #11
Not sure relayerbob Aug 2015 #28
IOKIYAC (It's OK if you're a Clinton), apparently. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #6
Debbi Wasserman Schulz, former national co-chair of the Hillary Clinton Campaign for President, Zorra Aug 2015 #7
Precisely SHRED Aug 2015 #8
The primary process has been tainted MissDeeds Aug 2015 #24
Translation: Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #10
DWS is one of the major problems with the Republicrat Party. bvar22 Aug 2015 #12
She pulled the same shit in 2006 in Florida's then 5th district. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #22
keeping that in mind when the DNC calls for money. thanks bvar irisblue Aug 2015 #27
"Because I get to decide" is not a rational argument ThoughtCriminal Aug 2015 #13
Eerily similar beltanefauve Aug 2015 #19
+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #33
So find some resources, stage a debate, invite some folks. No one jtuck004 Aug 2015 #14
They can't SHRED Aug 2015 #18
They could agree to have their own debates, and let Hillary debate herself. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #23
So? Make a big sign. "Those are the corporate candidate debates over there, jtuck004 Aug 2015 #35
Is this the kind of Presidency Hillary offers? Geronimoe Aug 2015 #15
I am going to BOOOOOOOOOOO her so hard at the convention. fbc Aug 2015 #16
I'm the decider. Sounds familiar. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #20
DUMP THIS WOMAN. Ron Green Aug 2015 #21
And I thought all the giant clowns were on the GOP side . . . DrBulldog Aug 2015 #25
I haven't sent a penny to the DNC since Dean hasn't been in charge. mountain grammy Aug 2015 #26
I'm really disappointed in her. madaboutharry Aug 2015 #29
I can't stand DWS lobodons Aug 2015 #30
What about the exclusion rule? HassleCat Aug 2015 #31
Only if she and her 'handlers' permit, elleng Aug 2015 #36
I was thinking HassleCat Aug 2015 #42
Might do, not a 'debate,' elleng Aug 2015 #43
A regime change in the DNC would be nice Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #32
Hillary Clinton doesn't want or need debates 1939 Aug 2015 #34
"Shut up," she explained. Scuba Aug 2015 #37
Moveon has a petition calling for her removal. wilsonbooks Aug 2015 #38
"That debate criteria has been negotiated" Babel_17 Aug 2015 #39
The DNC has forgotten whom they serve, as have most of the establishment Democrats. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #40
She is leading the Democratic party over the same cliff the Republicans have already fallen over randr Aug 2015 #41
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
1. Well that's a nice little exclusive club they have there.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:43 PM
Aug 2015

Nice to know that if Hillary were to push for more debates that she would be responded to in the same way. Ya think?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. The raison d'etre of the DLC was elite control, the rebranding changed nothing
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:22 PM
Aug 2015

After a couple decades of building that club they dominate dem national offices so they dominate the DNC admin.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
2. This is total bullshit.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:48 PM
Aug 2015

DWS should NOT be heading the DNC.

I don't even want to support our own organization!

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
17. Conflict of interest big time
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 02:50 PM
Aug 2015

She has shown where her loyalties lie. No way will she be impartial in her decision making regarding the number of debates or any other issue affecting the candidates. She should have stepped down during the primaries or been replaced. Cronyism at its worst.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
6. IOKIYAC (It's OK if you're a Clinton), apparently.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:58 PM
Aug 2015

I guess situational positions aren't just for....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251558453

Oops, this doesn't really address the OP, does it? OK, Debbie, whatever you say is how it will be, because you are the fearless leader. Who doesn't listen to anyone else, because leaders don't have to.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
7. Debbi Wasserman Schulz, former national co-chair of the Hillary Clinton Campaign for President,
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:00 PM
Aug 2015

dictatorially decides that she has the absolute right to rig the Democratic primary process, so that her BFF Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee for POTUS in 2016.

Paraphrased, Little Debbie says fuck democracy, and says Democrats can go fuck off if we don't like it. Little Debbie says this ain't Burger King, and Democrats get it her way, or we don't get it at all.

So, just how many millions of Democratic votes will this cost Clinton in the GE after Debbie
crowns her Hillary, Queen of the Democrats?

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
24. The primary process has been tainted
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:02 PM
Aug 2015

by her partiality. Her decisions thus far have been made for the purpose of aiding her chosen candidate and making sure she is the anointed one. It's almost like rigging an election.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
12. DWS is one of the major problems with the Republicrat Party.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 01:49 PM
Aug 2015

She should have been kicked to the curb long ago instead of getting "promoted".
Someone at the DNC (or the corporations that own the DNC) thinks she is doing a good job.

Lets look at her job performance:


In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.




FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537










The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html


Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama


With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
22. She pulled the same shit in 2006 in Florida's then 5th district.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:00 PM
Aug 2015

She spoke so glowingly of incumbent (R) Ginny Brown-Waite in the St.Pete Times, it amounted to an endorsement. And her and the FDP actively undermined the campaign of progressive John Russell, who had won the 3-way primary by 12 pts over the DCCC's, DLC's hand picked candidate.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
13. "Because I get to decide" is not a rational argument
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 02:13 PM
Aug 2015

She needs to understand that there are adults involved here.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. So find some resources, stage a debate, invite some folks. No one
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 02:48 PM
Aug 2015

has to ask anyone to do that. And it would get a bunch of press that people seem to be craving...

Do a gofundme or something, or find one of the stations that would do it or find someone wealthy to help as needed.

There are ways...people need to quit asking permission. That's how we got here.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
18. They can't
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 02:52 PM
Aug 2015

If the candidates engage in non sanctioned debates they are banned from the DNC debates. Shultz and crew set it up that way.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
23. They could agree to have their own debates, and let Hillary debate herself.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:01 PM
Aug 2015

She would probably lose that one too.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
35. So? Make a big sign. "Those are the corporate candidate debates over there,
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:45 PM
Aug 2015

here are the people's debates over here."

Maybe that's the debate we really ought to be having.


People ask permission too much. That's why they are getting fucked 8 ways from sunday all the time.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
15. Is this the kind of Presidency Hillary offers?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 02:49 PM
Aug 2015

Everything decided by who has most power inside the beltway?

Shame on you Debbie and Hillary.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
25. And I thought all the giant clowns were on the GOP side . . .
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:04 PM
Aug 2015

. . . Debbie Wasserman Schultz should be immediately removed as DNC chair. She is completely incompetent to hold such a critical position.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
30. I can't stand DWS
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:19 PM
Aug 2015

But seriously, the Dems do not need more debates. We know the candidates. We know their stances for the most part and or what a handful of debates and the right questions can't iron out. Would be nice to get more free air time for Dem policies, but the whackadoodles on the right are helping the Dems with all their free airtime and debates in that regard.

Dems, just take a breath, relax and when the time comes GOTFV!!!!

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
31. What about the exclusion rule?
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:22 PM
Aug 2015

"If you participate in somebody else's debate, you can't be in ours." There has to be a way around that.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
42. I was thinking
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:30 PM
Aug 2015

Maybe the others could have a series of friendly town hall discussions where they got together and spoke about the issues.

elleng

(131,067 posts)
43. Might do, not a 'debate,'
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:35 PM
Aug 2015

might provide useful info to some voters. Would be good to have an engaged 'conductor.' I'm not sure that Bernie would participate.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
32. A regime change in the DNC would be nice
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:28 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 30, 2015, 07:03 PM - Edit history (1)

but a rule change to make it easier to challenge an arbitrary decision of the chair is clearly in order.

1939

(1,683 posts)
34. Hillary Clinton doesn't want or need debates
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:43 PM
Aug 2015

Debates are very dangerous for front runners who really don't have much to gain from a debate win and have a lot to lose from a debate stumble.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
39. "That debate criteria has been negotiated"
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:55 PM
Aug 2015

Go on ...

Or was it between Debbie, and Other Debbie?

Well, as we know, DNC rules are DNC rules, and they can never be challenged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Democratic_primary,_2008

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
40. The DNC has forgotten whom they serve, as have most of the establishment Democrats.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 12:09 AM
Aug 2015

Let's help them remember during this primary season, shall we?

randr

(12,414 posts)
41. She is leading the Democratic party over the same cliff the Republicans have already fallen over
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:38 AM
Aug 2015
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