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"If Hillary Clinton were a stock I would be buying because she is undervalued." (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 OP
I would not Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #1
Something has to happen to reverse the smear campaign, to make her sympathetic to randys1 Sep 2015 #2
She is sleepwalking AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #7
Women and Black people cant act like white men. randys1 Sep 2015 #8
Er, um... AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #10
Correct post, she cant punch her way out, only white men are allowed to do that. randys1 Sep 2015 #12
So appealing to the stupid is a winning strategy? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #13
SMH randys1 Sep 2015 #14
If she were a stock, not was a stock. (eom) HassleCat Sep 2015 #3
TY DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #6
Go Ahead. Here's where you can do it Xipe Totec Sep 2015 #4
She's around 1/4 DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #5
As the OP says, this is a good time to jump in. Xipe Totec Sep 2015 #9
The odds are 1-4 and not 4-1. That's a huge difference... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #11
You need to look at it backwards to understand bets and wagers. Xipe Totec Sep 2015 #15
I see what you are saying... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #16
I see her as more a bundled derivative. TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #17
LMAO! Fawke Em Sep 2015 #44
Yes she is! BooScout Sep 2015 #18
Well she is completely owned by wall street artislife Sep 2015 #19
Remember the dot com stocks? left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #20
Remember that you can fit all the living people who ran a successful presidential campaign in a SUV DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #22
She is going to be pushed out Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #21
What are the mechanics of this ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #23
Who do you think leaked the presence of the private email server? Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #24
Give me a second while I go to the attic and get my tin foil hat DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #25
Choose not to believe it. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #26
Because he is not going to throw his VP under the bus. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #27
this will go over well with the Occupy crowd ericson00 Sep 2015 #28
Someone always makes out in a ponzi scheme. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #29
Cattle futures, anyone? jfern Sep 2015 #30
I'd be buying Goldman Sachs stocks and expecting a payoff if she's elected. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #31
Who would buy stock with a performance like this: Live and Learn Sep 2015 #32
Favorability would be different. Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #36
Still too rich for my blood. The lobbyists seem to have already secured a majority of the shares. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #33
If Hillary Clinton were a Stock, it would be tanking. Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #34
A nice line, but at this time a high risk. Vinca Sep 2015 #35
In the mid-1980s... Chan790 Sep 2015 #37
Respectfully, your logic is flawed DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #38
I don't need Jim Lampley for that. Chan790 Sep 2015 #40
Well DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #42
Yeah, that's some off-shore book. Chan790 Sep 2015 #43
I can walk up to the window at the Sports Book at any casino and wager $25.00, maybe less... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #45
Management has no stake in the company Jo Neez Sep 2015 #39
A perfect analogy. 99Forever Sep 2015 #41
A public traded corporate commodity that answers to the shareholders with the most money Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #46
I'm bullish on Hillary. Watch her stocks shoot through the roof. oasis Sep 2015 #47

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. Something has to happen to reverse the smear campaign, to make her sympathetic to
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 06:35 PM
Sep 2015

the average voter out there who has no clue about issues.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
7. She is sleepwalking
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 06:51 PM
Sep 2015

Not a good strategy for getting your issues out there. If she doesn't start aggressive campaigning soon, this email thing will suck every bit of air out of the room and overshadow everything she does from here on out.

She is being painted into a corner by a lot of different forces. She needs to punch her way out of it, and I believe she is capable of doing that, but it isn't going to happen with her current 'Sleepwalk To Victory!' strategy.

The DNC attempt to rig the primary by stifling debate harms Hillary the most in the long run. Less debates = less message. Less message = more email 'scandal' for the media to obsess over.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
12. Correct post, she cant punch her way out, only white men are allowed to do that.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:01 PM
Sep 2015

She will have to find a way to become sympathetic to the stupid voter.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. She's around 1/4
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 06:49 PM
Sep 2015

IMHO she should be around 1/8 which would be the odds I would set for a Golden State Warriors-Philadelphia Seventy Sixers regular season game.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
9. As the OP says, this is a good time to jump in.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 06:54 PM
Sep 2015

But the odds makers are looking at the money for or against the candidate. right now it's 4:1 odds which is a bargain, if you think she's actually 8:1.

You should see the numbers on the Republican side. Arbustito (little bush -AKA Jeb!!!!!) is ahead of Trump according to the odds makers.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. The odds are 1-4 and not 4-1. That's a huge difference...
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 06:57 PM
Sep 2015

To win $1,000.00 I would have to wager $4,000.00.

The Jebster and the Bush are 3-1 and 4-1 respectively...I don't know I feel about that...I would take the field against either one but you can't wager on the field.

I did make some money on intrade in 08 in the CA primary.



Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
15. You need to look at it backwards to understand bets and wagers.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:06 PM
Sep 2015

To win $1,000.00 I would have to wager $4,000.00. Yes.

That's because the odds are in her favor 4:1.

If she was a long shot - 1:4, then an bet of $1000 would win you $4000.

By your estimate of 8:1 odds in favor, you would need to wager $8000 to win $1000. So it's a bargain if you only need to risk $4000 instead of $8000 to win $1000.

Hope that helps.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. I see what you are saying...
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:15 PM
Sep 2015

The boxer in my avatar was a a 7-1 dog when he beat Sonny Liston and a 3-1 dog when he beat George Foreman.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. Remember that you can fit all the living people who ran a successful presidential campaign in a SUV
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:40 PM
Sep 2015

His opinion carries more weight than random internet posters.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
24. Who do you think leaked the presence of the private email server?
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:46 PM
Sep 2015

Who recently practically gave Biden his blessing to make a run at President?

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
26. Choose not to believe it.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:58 PM
Sep 2015

The WH did release info against HC. Biden is being prepped to run. Do you think Joe Biden would not need the green light from President Obama to make a run? If HC is supposed to be the best and strongest candidate against republicans in 2016 why would you allow serious competition to be introduced in the form of a Biden bid?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
27. Because he is not going to throw his VP under the bus.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 08:06 PM
Sep 2015

Oh, the Benghazi Committee (R) discovered she used a private e-mail address and server:

The existence of Mrs. Clinton’s personal email account was discovered by a House committee investigating the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi as it sought correspondence between Mrs. Clinton and her aides about the attack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=0
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
29. Someone always makes out in a ponzi scheme.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:52 AM
Sep 2015

And the only way to do it is to con others into believing the bullshit.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
36. Favorability would be different.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:55 AM
Sep 2015

Once she is out of politics her favorability rating will go back up. So if that were a stock it would be a good buy right now. By this time next year it will be higher, and much higher still a couple years from now.

It will eventually get back up near that 70% number. It may not have bottomed out in the short term, so you might not want to buy right now. Even so, it would be a stock worth watching.





Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. Still too rich for my blood. The lobbyists seem to have already secured a majority of the shares.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:39 AM
Sep 2015

I cant compete with the likes of the private pri$on industry. Im penny ante.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
34. If Hillary Clinton were a Stock, it would be tanking.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:47 AM
Sep 2015

Yes, that is the correct term.





Updated yesterday, the trend continues.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
35. A nice line, but at this time a high risk.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:54 AM
Sep 2015

She seemed to be overcoming it until the 5th amendment stuff started. That's GOP gold.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
37. In the mid-1980s...
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:18 AM
Sep 2015

My uncle B bought $10,000 worth of Pan-Am stock because it was undervalued.

Lesson learned: Most of the time "undervalued stocks" are actually correctly valued.

Lesson learned: I won't be asking David Axelrod for his opinion on my investment portfolio.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
38. Respectfully, your logic is flawed
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:59 AM
Sep 2015
My uncle B bought $10,000 worth of Pan-Am stock because it was undervalued.

Lesson learned: Most of the time "undervalued stocks" are actually correctly valued.

Lesson learned: I won't be asking David Axelrod for his opinion on my investment portfolio


Currently, Floyd Mayweather is a 100-1 favorite over Andre Berto in their fight next Saturday in Las Vegas! That means I would have to lay one hundred dollars on Floyd to win one dollar should he win the fight. I wouldn't ask your uncle or David Axelrod if that was a prudent wager but I might ask Jim Lampley. The inference is there for any logical person to make.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
40. I don't need Jim Lampley for that.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:44 AM
Sep 2015

Minimum Vegas line bet is $1000 so it's not $100 to win $1, it's $1000 to win $10. It's a highly safe bet but it's not worthwhile...the reward doesn't outpace the risk; there being of-course an infinitesimally-small risk that Berto puts an utterly-brutal mauling on Mayweather. The amount of money you'd have to wager to get the winnings up to a decent prize represents an utterly-devastating loss in the case that risk hits.

But...that's entirely the point, the book doesn't want to even take that bet at this point because it's all but a sure money loser for them so they pushed the line to be so prohibitive as to throttle the wagers down to virtually non-existent in that direction...now if you're looking to drop $1,000 on the remote chance Berto annihilates Mayweather to take home $100,000 they're thrilled to have your business.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
42. Well
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 10:42 AM
Sep 2015
Minimum Vegas line bet is $1000 so it's not $100 to win $1


http://www.5dimes.eu/helpcenter.html


The minimum wager is fifty cents online and fifty dollars over the phone. You can call the 800 number for verification. I did.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
43. Yeah, that's some off-shore book.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:01 PM
Sep 2015

Like I said, no legit regulated Vegas book is going to talk to you for wager that small.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
46. A public traded corporate commodity that answers to the shareholders with the most money
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

The largest shareholders are those that have invested the most money
That's what a stock is
now lets look at her corporate donations again.......

In May, the New York Times published Clinton’s 2015 financial disclosure form. Covering a period from January 2014 to March 2015, Clinton lists a total of 51 speech fees that have been added to her personal account from a variety of companies. Not including her husband’s fees which also appear on the same disclosure, Clinton’s speech fees end up totaling more than $11 million.

Spokesmen for the Clinton Foundation and Clinton’s presidential campaign declined comment.

Our ruling

Occupy Democrats claimed Clinton "has donated every cent she's ever earned from speaking fees to charity."

That’s a misreading of Clinton’s comments in 2014, when she said speaking fees at colleges and universities were donated to the Clinton Foundation.

Clinton’s financial disclosure form includes 51 speeches in which Clinton was compensated directly.

This claim rates False.


http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/16/occupy-democrats/liberal-group-claims-all-hillary-clintons-speaking/


I don't think he really thought that through when he said it.

but maybe he did and it was said tongue in cheek or maybe he was saying that the system is corrupt without realizing it.

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