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elleng

(130,895 posts)
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:26 PM Sep 2015

Clinton open to more debates.

Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton on Saturday suggested she's open to more presidential debates, amid pushback from her competitors about the Democratic National Committee's (DNC) light schedule.

"I am open to whatever the DNC decides to set up. That's their decision," she said during a stop in New Hampshire. "I debated a lot in 2008 and I would certainly be there with lots of enthusiasm and energy if they decide to add more debates, and I think that's the message that a lot of people are sending their way."

Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), both of whom are competing with Clinton for the party's presidential nomination, have criticized the DNC for only setting up six primary debates and barring candidates from participating in outside debates.

That's roughly one-quarter of the number offered during the 2008 primary, and half of the number expected for Republican candidates this cycle. DNC Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) has defended the debate schedule as sufficient.

O'Malley's campaign quickly pounced on Clinton's comments. John Bivona, the New Hampshire state director for O'Malley for President, said that "it is time for Chairwoman Wasserman-Schultz and the Democratic National Committee to take themselves out of this process and end the unprecedented exclusivity rule."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252845-clinton-open-to-more-debates

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Clinton open to more debates. (Original Post) elleng Sep 2015 OP
Your move Debbie! -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #1
No, it is still Clinton's move. All she needs to do is pick up the phone. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #19
LOL. The all powerful Wizard of the State Department just has to pick up the phone!! DonViejo Sep 2015 #26
You don't think she's going to send an email do you? n/t A Simple Game Sep 2015 #41
zing! Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #48
Sometimes when they ask for it you just have to give it to them. n/t A Simple Game Sep 2015 #51
I understand she has a fairly reliable wireless Morse Code system established. DonViejo Sep 2015 #54
That just might work! n/t A Simple Game Sep 2015 #61
Welp, this kills 2 birds with one stone. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #2
But it helps with the Hillary isn't honest or trustworthy polls jfern Sep 2015 #4
Bingo orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #7
According to you. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #12
+1 DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #13
So if every candidate is asking for more debates jfern Sep 2015 #17
bingo. cali Sep 2015 #29
Not so much...."I am open to whatever the DNC decides to set up. That's their decision," Armstead Sep 2015 #18
Yeah... she didn't actually say anything. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #25
Yes. She's doing what I like to call "Feinsteining" RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #37
You forgot the "Hillary embarrassed by Bernie in the debates" meme Logical Sep 2015 #62
Pretty safe, she says: I am open to whatever the DNC decides to set up HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #3
We'll see who pressures whom to do what, elleng Sep 2015 #6
DWS has leverage over the campaign committees... HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #10
And that is why Hillary is all of the sudden willing to have more debates, because..... Logical Sep 2015 #63
Exactly, but, -WHY- try to create the deception? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #65
And campaign reform, HA Ha Ha . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #5
Iow, we didn't get it right the first time BeyondGeography Sep 2015 #8
And our collective intelligence... 99Forever Sep 2015 #9
Eeyup! nt hifiguy Sep 2015 #14
Yeah, it's September already. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #11
Oh yeah MissDeeds Sep 2015 #28
You're right. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #31
Thank You Sec. Clinton Peacetrain Sep 2015 #15
Lets see ! well only took up till now Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #16
"If only the DNC would allow it" Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #20
precisely. nt antigop Sep 2015 #55
Hardly an argument for more. .....Rather like passing the buck. Armstead Sep 2015 #21
Nailed it. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #47
So she is open to more debates. If so then she should jwirr Sep 2015 #22
This. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #43
Open to whatever the DNC decides. Remind me again, who is the head of the DNC? Autumn Sep 2015 #23
She told Debbie what to decide Geronimoe Sep 2015 #34
That's what I think too. nt thereismore Sep 2015 #40
So her former #21 should be getting a call JackInGreen Sep 2015 #24
Doesn't matter here quickesst Sep 2015 #27
"Go ask your Dad" demwing Sep 2015 #30
Sure, let Debbie Wasserman-Schultz play the bad cop. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #39
LOLOLOL! HappyPlace Sep 2015 #46
Clinton open to everything whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #32
I think Clinton has adopted the "run out the clock" strategy. jalan48 Sep 2015 #33
You are correct! Blus4u Sep 2015 #52
The consequence being AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #58
A few weeks ago I didn't think it was possible Hillary could lose the general election. jalan48 Sep 2015 #59
Being "open" to more debates... HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #35
"I am open to whatever the DNC decides to set up. That's their decision." frylock Sep 2015 #36
as they say, "how conveeeeeenient!" Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #38
In my house, we call those, 'weasel words'. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #42
Mine too. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #45
Mine too. Exactly. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #57
Then all candidates are in agreement and the exclusivity clause can be made a nullity. morningfog Sep 2015 #44
Suspect That DWS Is Covering For HRC - So - No More Debates - To Be Had cantbeserious Sep 2015 #49
The High Priestess of Plausible Deniability Indepatriot Sep 2015 #50
Now that Hillary is "on the record" GitRDun Sep 2015 #53
If so, this will boost the Dem brand by contrasting our sane candidates with-- eridani Sep 2015 #56
They really think we are stupid. MoveIt Sep 2015 #60
Jesus the arrogance... ibegurpard Sep 2015 #64
 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
2. Welp, this kills 2 birds with one stone.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:28 PM
Sep 2015

The whole "Hillary is afraid!" meme and the whole "why isn't Hillary calling for more debates!" meme.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
4. But it helps with the Hillary isn't honest or trustworthy polls
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:30 PM
Sep 2015

Because if Hillary actually told DWS she wanted more debates, there would be more debates.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
17. So if every candidate is asking for more debates
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:56 PM
Sep 2015

And we're not getting them, what do you think is going on?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
18. Not so much...."I am open to whatever the DNC decides to set up. That's their decision,"
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:57 PM
Sep 2015

Hardly a heartfelt urging. Sort of passing the buck, in contract to the impassioned statements of O'Malley

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
25. Yeah... she didn't actually say anything.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:10 PM
Sep 2015

She said she was open to whatever the DNC decides when she already knows what was decided. The matter was closed at the DNC meeting the other week so it is very disingenuous to suggest that this means she is "open to more debates."

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
37. Yes. She's doing what I like to call "Feinsteining"
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:17 PM
Sep 2015

Made famous by California's allegedly Democratic Senator



HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. Pretty safe, she says: I am open to whatever the DNC decides to set up
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:28 PM
Sep 2015

And we were told by DWS herself, that it's the prerogative of the DNC chair and DWS isn't changing it.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
6. We'll see who pressures whom to do what,
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:31 PM
Sep 2015

still up to Dem candidates to maintain pressure on dws/dnc/hrc in accord with wishes of We the People.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
10. DWS has leverage over the campaign committees...
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:42 PM
Sep 2015

I don't expect relief from there.

What I encourage the other candidates to do is to hold not debates that violate the letter of DWS edict, rather to hold public "Joint Question and Answer Sessions" attended by invited media.




 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
63. And that is why Hillary is all of the sudden willing to have more debates, because.....
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:24 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary knows DWS will not. LOL, she cracks me up.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
65. Exactly, but, -WHY- try to create the deception?
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:35 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 6, 2015, 12:08 PM - Edit history (2)

Because it's another fantasy about politics... first because you can't look like you're against an open exchange of ideas, second because you can't look like you are afraid of debating or looking like you are afraid of a debating oppinent, and of course you can't look like you are throwing obstacles in the paths of your oppponents.

And perhaps most importantly of all... you get to be on both sides of the issue. People who love to dissemble (transitive verb 1 : to hide under a false appearance) -NEED- to create the Potempkin foiles to hide behind.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
11. Yeah, it's September already.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:45 PM
Sep 2015

This shit needed to be worked out last spring. NOW she's "open to more debates." Well, how brave of her.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
28. Oh yeah
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:37 PM
Sep 2015

She's 'open' to more debates, but her protectors will find a way to keep it from happening. Debates with Sanders and O'Malley are her worst nightmare. No way her cohorts at the DLC/DNC will let that happen, no matter how much she is "open" to it.

Not buying it. First of many smoke screens to come.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
31. You're right.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:47 PM
Sep 2015

Its Kabuki Theater. Her and her handlers continue to act like the people haven't caught onto this. Some politicians can pull it off and people will believe them (Bill Clinton, Pres. Obama) but she doesn't have that ability.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
15. Thank You Sec. Clinton
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:55 PM
Sep 2015

We need more debates.. and if you get behind the push to expand the debate schedule along with Gov. O'Malley and Senator Sanders.. it will get done..

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
16. Lets see ! well only took up till now
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:56 PM
Sep 2015

DWS will you listen to the "frontrunner" ?

or is this some game

If the DNC doesn't want to add more debates the other candidates need to come together set up more debates





Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
20. "If only the DNC would allow it"
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:59 PM
Sep 2015


Yes, unfortunately Debbie Wasserman Schultz has made her decision, sorry.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
22. So she is open to more debates. If so then she should
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:05 PM
Sep 2015

join the other candidates in a debate right now - sanctioned or not by the DNC.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
23. Open to whatever the DNC decides. Remind me again, who is the head of the DNC?
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:06 PM
Sep 2015

The head of the DNC says that's up to the head of the DNC and the head of the DNC says she isn't changing it. Oh I remember who the head of the DNC is, Hillary's good friend. I think it's safe enough for you to call for more debates now Hillary. Whichever way the wind blows.

Seriously, I would have respected her more had she not said anything about the debates. She fucking knew what DWS, the head of the DNC decided on.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
34. She told Debbie what to decide
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:05 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary is the decider. This is obvious because DWS couldn't explain her own decision of only 6 debates.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
27. Doesn't matter here
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:36 PM
Sep 2015

For many here, it's damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't. I think that they think she's the Don of some DNC mafia. I'll just add another to the pile.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
30. "Go ask your Dad"
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

A teen asks her Mom if she can go to Cabo for Spring Break. Mom says she's open to whatever Dad decides.

If you've ever been a teenager, and asked for something that might be risky in your parent's eyes, you may have heard a variation of this message, and it's clearly a dodge. Why? Because Dad has already said "Hell No!" (or knows damned well that he better!) and Mom knows it.

If you've ever been the parent in this play, and your significant other tells your kid to to ask you first, it's not because they want to say yes. It's because they want to say no, but don't want any of the blame that comes on the side.


Blus4u

(608 posts)
52. You are correct!
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:51 PM
Sep 2015

If they wait another week or so, then "look" into it, it will be too lat to squeeze one I n before the October scheduled date.

Oh well, we tried! Aren't we magnanimous?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
58. The consequence being
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:38 AM
Sep 2015

The Democratic message does not get out and we lose the general election. Wonderful strategy, Hillary.

jalan48

(13,863 posts)
59. A few weeks ago I didn't think it was possible Hillary could lose the general election.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:25 AM
Sep 2015

If she wins the primary I'm not so sure anymore. With all her baggage and the endless Monica Lewinsky drama we will be exposed to she could find Americans just don't want her and Bill back in the White House. It may not be fair but she's a sitting duck for the endless right wing attack ads. And her strategy of waiting until later to respond or champion her ideas will only hurt her more.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
36. "I am open to whatever the DNC decides to set up. That's their decision."
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:17 PM
Sep 2015

Another amazing display of leadership.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
44. Then all candidates are in agreement and the exclusivity clause can be made a nullity.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:31 PM
Sep 2015

Sanders and O'Malley should call Hillary's bluff. They can agree to engage in as many debates as they want. The DNC won't ban all the candidates from the sanctioned debates.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
49. Suspect That DWS Is Covering For HRC - So - No More Debates - To Be Had
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:44 PM
Sep 2015

Establishment Politics In Play - Move Along - Nothing More To See Here.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
50. The High Priestess of Plausible Deniability
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:47 PM
Sep 2015

once again shows how it's done. That works just great for the "American Idol" watching masses, for those of us paying attention, NOT SO MUCH. It's really quite amazing how she refuses to actually state a position on so many matters. She's like the customer at the restaurant who just can't make up her mind what to order, then when she finally does, she forgets what she ordered and tells the staff they got it wrong....

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
53. Now that Hillary is "on the record"
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 09:05 PM
Sep 2015

MOM and BS teams should be on the full court press to pressure DWS publicly to add debates.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
56. If so, this will boost the Dem brand by contrasting our sane candidates with--
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:11 PM
Sep 2015

--the other side's clown car. The only problem we have is disagreements on policies--much easier to deal with than outright batshit craziness.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
64. Jesus the arrogance...
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:29 AM
Sep 2015

Not just from her but the people speaking for her..."I'm open to whatever the DNC decides"??? How stupid does she think people are???

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