Poll: If you could have Hillary Or Bernie for President, who would you pick?? (Now 89% - 11%)

[Logical]

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I did this poll last on April 29th. I thought I would do it again!

Last time it was 90% to 10% for Bernie. Lets see if it has changed!

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Forget if you think they are electable.

If you could magically pick the next president, who would you pick??

98 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Hillary
	8 (8%)
	Bernie
	90 (92%)
	2 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[cantbeserious]

1. No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

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[Logical]

2. LOL, ok, carry on. nt

[cantbeserious]

3. Ridicule Is A Very Poor Debating Technique Typically Used When Nothing Better Can Be Offered

eom

[Logical]

4. Sometimes that is all they deserve. nt

[NorthCarolina]

5. Who are "they"

that you speak of?

[roguevalley]

10. everyone who isn't buying the inevitability coronation speak, dear NorthCarolina

[ChairmanAgnostic]

72. You know, those people.

[sabrina 1]

20. Sometimes people are telling the truth and the truth can't be changed by any means.

But if someone thinks someone is NOT telling the truth, then obviously correcting them and telling the truth, is the most effective method unless of course they ARE telling the truth and there is no way to correct them. So then, ridicule is often the response, but still doesn't change the truth.

[demwing]

28. What you mean is "Sometimes that's all I can think of"

People don't deserve ridicule just because you disagree with their position.

[elleng]

6. Martin O'Malley

[DavidDvorkin]

15. Yes, O'Malley

Why isn't he included in the poll?

[elleng]

17. Good question.

'Coronation's' a big word these days.

[Amish Farmer]

18. Still hovering at 1%. O'Malley is trying and failing to be Bernie.

O'Malley should give up now and endorse Bernie and work with him. His message is essentially identical.

[elleng]

19. Governor O'Malley is in no way trying to be Bernie,

he has a strong record, established over years, of advocating and achieving, for examples:

Martin O'Malley:

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

[Garrett78]

22. O'Malley needs a miracle

This article is from May but nothing much has changed since: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marylanders-dont-like-martin-omalley-so-why-would-the-rest-of-america/. How do you poll that poorly in your home state?

I think the only way Clinton doesn't get the nomination is if another big name, neoliberal party establishment person enters the race. Such as Biden. Even then, Biden or whoever would need Clinton's campaign to implode.

[elleng]

54. Well 538 sure as heck didn't poll THIS Marylander.

[Garrett78]

58. If they had...

O'Malley would still only have a fraction of the support that Clinton has in Maryland and everywhere else. I understand that's frustrating if you're an O'Malley supporter, but that is the reality. Having so little support in his home state (and it's not a really red state like Tennessee/Gore) seems like a nail in the coffin. I suppose he could perform amazingly well in the first debate and come back from the dead, but I wouldn't bank on that.

[oasis]

49. O'Malley, I'm sure, has no intention of dropping out.

There is nothing in his character that would indicate him letting so many supporters down by not giving a 100% commitment on his part.

Nope, he's not giving up, and for the Bernie Folk to suggest that he should, is no better than them showing outrage against Hill supporters who say she's the inevitable nominee.

[elleng]

55. THANKS, oasis!

[sabrina 1]

116. What 'Bernie folk' have suggested he should drop out? I'm a Bernie supporter and O'Malley

is my second choice, which I suspect is the position of most Bernie supporters. If for any reason, Bernie isn't running, I would support O'Malley though I need to know more about his position on War. Hillary's most recent statement on how she would not hesitate to start another war, makes her unelectable to me and to millions of others.

Other than that, I like O'Malley's positions on the issues.

[kenfrequed]

117. O'Malley is also my second choice

Hillary would be my last choice but Webb and Chaffee are also running so...

[Logical]

119. I agree. nt

[demwing]

108. O'Malley is an ally

lets ensure his supporters stay that way, k?

[azmom]

7. Bernie is the only one not funded

By Millionaires and Billionaires

[Logical]

8. +1000 nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

9. Bernie WOULD be...if he were to get a chance at the GE.....

are you going to beg him not to accept the Democratic Party money?

Please tell us how you win elections on a beer pocketbook?

You do know that Political campaigns actually HIRE people to do the work right? Good luck getting the best ground game and not paying them the going rate!

[demwing]

29. Your argument is a great example of why Hillary may win

but shouldn't.

Big Money is the problem, not the solution.

[VanillaRhapsody]

40. No she will because she is out there earning it

Guess where she is going next?

Puerto Rico...

And until Citizens United is overturned..."big money" is the only way to win...

[L0oniX]

47. LMFAO

she is out there earning it

[PatrickforO]

52. The problem is, Vanilla, that if she does win,

I don't see her making a concerted effort to end Citizens United.

[demwing]

53. Big Money is an addiction, just like alcoholism

and you don't get sober by hanging out in bars.

and what's Puerto Rico got to do with this???

[VanillaRhapsody]

62. Try getting elected without it...

Absurd!

Oh....was that supposed to sound all ominous and scary???? I could almost hear organ music!

[demwing]

66. First Puerto Rico, then organ music?

You must be enjoying the Labor Day weekend!

To your point (the clearly made one) "Try getting elected without it..."

That's exactly what Bernie is doing, and you should be helping him, not mocking him.

[VanillaRhapsody]

71. No he most certainly is not

Why do you think he even needs the Democratic Party?



If he is the change we have all been waiting for....why is he hiding behind the Democrats curtains? He sure as heck didnt become one...


I will tell you why.....because running as an Indie was a sure fire way to go broke in a General Election!

Yeah you are going to beat Trump and or the Bush money machine with a beer pocket book!

As a female...looking at a possible Trump with 2 other branches of govt doing his bidding is enough to make me not interested in a longshot experiment on a beer budget!

Thanks but no thanks!

[demwing]

92. So..just how much do you spend on beer?

Because Sanders brought in 15 Million last quarter, which is more than any candidate (Dem or Rep) save for Hillary.

You know, I disagree with you on candidates, but I thought you were just a real Hillary fan, honorable in opposition, and in your dedication to your candidate. Now I see you're willing to smear anyone that gets in the way, and willing to bow down to the money lenders (you think those were donations? more like down payments) who have corrupted our democracy.

Mocking Bernie for trying to get the money out of our democracy might seem as about as low as it gets, even during primary season on DU, but questioning his integrity regarding political finances is in the realm of swift-boating.

If you're not feeling embarrassment over that post, that's OK. There are many here who will do it for you.

[VanillaRhapsody]

95. I know the Republicans

Have Dom Perignon on the shelf.....lots of it...

So no until Citizen United is overturned....."big money" is how elections are won.

You can be an idealist all you want but that my friend is reality!

[demwing]

96. The world needs idealists

Somebody has to have ideals.

Reality is what you create while striving to achieve your ideals.

Aim for nothing and that's what you'll achieve.

[VanillaRhapsody]

98. It may....but it doesnt beat Republicans...

[VanillaRhapsody]

99. Reality is...

They are one office away from owning it all lock stock and barrel....all...three branches.....and they are willing to spend a fortune to win it....

No thanks...I want to win....your moral high ground be damned...my rights over my own body is at stake here...maybe you can afford to lose...

[Android3.14]

56. I don't think you intended that

But yes, she most certainly is earning it, and is ready to do her employer's bidding.

That, I'd suspect, is your subconscious telling you what your conscious mind refuses to acknowledge.

[Live and Learn]

69. +1 nt

[azmom]

70. Yeah, about Puerto Rico

Still, you can’t be a serious candidate for the presidency of the United States and not know what democracy is or that Puerto Rico doesn’t have it. Hillary’s half-hearted sympathy proves an even bigger point: it isn’t that North American leaders have been unaware of how much Puerto Rico has been getting screwed over the past century; it’s that they simply want it that way.

Hillary dangled the carrot of debt relief and potential statehood during her visit to the island only to garner support from mainland Puerto Ricans who can actually get her elected. She’s expecting few of them will realize that her campaign is largely funded by the same Wall Street bankers who stand to lose the most should Puerto Rico seek bankruptcy protection.

While Hillary was glad-handing in Puerto Rico yesterday, Alice Ollstein at Think Progress published an analysis of campaign financing documents which shows that Hillary and GOP candidate Jeb Bush have “have both benefited from honorarium fees, donations to their super PACs, and contributions to their campaigns from the executives of Puerto Rico’s hedge funds creditors — investment funds which contributed to and are profiting from the island’s financial crisis and inability to declare bankruptcy.”
http://www.latinorebels.com/2015/09/05/mrs-clinton-goes-to-san-juan/

[VanillaRhapsody]

73. Excuse me?

Its a freaking Thank You Puerto Rico tour she promised them....

My God....like Obama....if the woman cured Cancer you all would find fault with that too!

Does Bernie have a plan to go to Puerto Rico and fix all those problems yet?

[azmom]

78. LOL. Thank you for asking. Bernie sanders

actually sits in the commission of the Senate that oversees anything Puerto Rico. He is very knowledgeable and well versed on the problems facing Puerto Rico.

This is from a Democracy Now interview

Senator and pre-candidate Bernie Sanders defends the people of Puerto Rico. "It is time for creditors to sit down with the governments of Greece and Puerto Rico and work out a debt repayment plan that is fair to both sides. The people of Greece and the children of Puerto Rico deserve nothing less." Bernie Sanders said in a recent panel of economists in Washington.

"Today, when we talk about debt, we should appreciate that something similar is happening right now in Puerto Rico, where the government there is struggling with unsustainable debt, and a group of hedge fund billionaires are demanding austerity in Puerto Rico. They are demanding the firing of teachers, the closing of schools, so that they can reap huge profits off the suffering and misery of the children and the people of Puerto Rico. It is time for creditors to sit down with the governments of Greece and Puerto Rico and work out a debt repayment plan that is fair to both sides. The people of Greece and the children of Puerto Rico deserve nothing less."

[VanillaRhapsody]

79. Then why isn't every thing "fixed" there?

I mean you only need to meet Bernie to fall in love...and then somehow everything just gets fixed.....at least thats the story I have been told....you seem to say that the Puerto Ricans have met him......are they all head over heels about Bernie?

And when is HE going to campaign there.....heard anything?

You see HRC is actively courting the Hispanic vote....she gave Campaign Political Director to a Hispanic Woman and everyone knows she supports the Dreamers....AND she is likely to pick Castro for a running mate...

How's Bernie's campaign outreach to Hispanics going?

You know he cannot win without them right?

[azmom]

83. She's making some symbolic moves,

But her financial ties to Wall Street, Bankers, and Corporation will do her in.

In the end, it doesn't matter what your race is, we latinos like everyone else can see corruption when we see it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

87. "Symbolic"

We will see whether Hispanics agree with you...by the way when is he going tobdi something EVEN symbolic?

So they have met Bernie ib Puerto Rico, right? You seem to be saying he is well known there.....is Puerto Rico "all in" for Bernie yet?

Shhhhhhhh you are ruining a perfectly good Sanders narrative!

[HappyPlace]

86. You do realize, don't you, that she can't win in the General?

It just won't happen.

Supporters should resign themselves to the fact that as remarkable and historic as her career may be, the presidency is not in the cards.

One day, hopefully soon, we'll elect a woman to the highest office who wasn't already there married to a president.

Experts can disagree, but I say she owes a great debt for having been a First Lady, which is quite different from coming up though the ranks as a fierce independent agent for change.

Warren, for example, would be such a woman who never got a boost for having served as first lady first.

Do you really want to make history by having a married couple, each of them having been a president?

How is that not frightening and disturbing to you?

[VanillaRhapsody]

88. You do realize that EVERY odds making site

Disagrees with you right?

Thats what having a 57% chance in the GE means the closet competitors.Trump and Bush are each not even in her hemisphere......that also her odds of winning the Primary is still 74%.....there is only 26%:chance that anyone else will beat her....All together 26%

And wait a fing minute....why in your book is being a FLOTUS make you ineligible to serve?

You said....one day we will have a female first lady who wasnt "previously a First Lady"....What the hell is your reasoning behind that? Why is her previously being a First Lady make her unworthy of the office, You seem to be saying it should disqualify them all

Excuse me sir. But your slip is showing!

[L0oniX]

48. It's strange thing to see Dems bow to big money to win ...like selling a soul.

They don't even know they've sold their political soul to the oligarchy.

[Eatacig]

11. You people are being played by the republicans

The comment Bernie is not funded is correct. It would be nice if not being funded
would get you elected in this Country but until Citizens United is overturned,
all you are doing is playing into the republican hands. You should think about
the damage they will do to this Country if elected. Get republicans out of office
and then work on change in the Democratic Party.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. Bernie is a Republican? Wait..wait..I thought he was a dirty Hippie on the Kremlin payroll.

[sabrina 1]

21. And just how is USING CU in any way going to END it? You know what Joe Biden said about the money

in politics and what Democrats must do to remove it from our electoral system? Essentially he agreed with what Bernie is doing, DON'T TAKE IT.

When Bernie first announced he was running, 'you people' (btw, who is 'you people' here?) predicted that without Corporate Money he would fade away in a few weeks. I don't see him fading, I see him consistently rising against ALL candidates in this race.

Biden says Dems must lead the way and NOT use the old excuse 'we can't win without it' and that UNTIL it is removed, nothing else can be accomplished.

So if he runs, I expect he will act according to that advice and also refuse Corporate funding.

Bernie in just a few months, coming from zero name recognition, is now ahead of the presumed nominee in NH by 9 points. How did THAT happen without Corporate funding? And in Iowa, he has nearly closed the gap, gaining 19 points since July while Hillary has dropped by approx 18 points.

So explain how all that money has stopped his consistent rise as soon as people get to know him?

It hasn't and it won't, because over 80% of the Population wants that money OUT of politics and for Bernie since he's not just TALKING about it, it has become a WINNING issue.

[demwing]

30. "Get republicans out of office and then work on change in the Democratic Party"

Tried that 8 years ago...time for a different strategy

[VanillaRhapsody]

74. Oh really those 2 branches of govt control they have

Didnt resonate?

[demwing]

94. Oh it resonates, but it doesn't support the posters strategy

Tried that, and it didn't work. Those big money donations are really down payments, and a return is always expected on the investment.

[VanillaRhapsody]

97. Oh really

So you want to risk it all on a low budget? On a beer pocket book?

Have you looked at the other team, have you forgotten they own the 2 other branches of government.....we would be holding on by The Notorious Ruth Bader Ginsburg!

That New Deal we like so much?....finally KILLED OFF....DONE finito!......Obamacares...DONE!....oh and say goodbye to Gay Marriage.....and a womans right to choose...OUT OF HERE!

But nooooo....you want to go to war....and it is a cultural war they are one office away from winning it all....you think you can go to that war on a shoestring!

Thats the proverbial showing up for a gunfight armed with a butter knife!

No Thank you. .you might be able to afford losing all that on your pabst blue ribbon budget...I sure as hell cant!

[-none]

34. You have it backwards.

Get republicans out of office and then work on change in the Democratic Party.

That should read "Work on change in the Democratic Party, then get the Republican out of office."
The reason there are so many Republicans in office is because of the current 3rd Way/neo-liberal, Blue Dog, Corporatist or whatever Democratic leadership. Move the Democratic Party back to the Left and the Center, where it belongs.
Currently Democrats are the Left Wing of the Republican Party. Or at least their enablers.
We need more honest, Center and Left of Center Democrats and less Blue Dog and Right of Center Democrats.
And for those that refuse to acknowledge it, that (D) does not necessary mean Liberal. All it means is party membership. There are Republicans to the Left of some Democrats and with the country so far to the Right politically, that should be an embarrassment to any real Democrat, let alone any Liberal.

[VanillaRhapsody]

100. Actually no...

They are one office away from all three branches of government....can you afford that while "clean" house of Democrats?

So your idea is burn down the house and start over....meanwhile they take over conteol of the whole country while YOU rebuild.

This is politics. Not magic..its ugly....and it takes time and patience.....does this look like the French Revolution to you or something?

[-none]

106. While Bernie has the best chance of winning the White House, Not much will change in the Congress,

until we "clean house", as you put it, in the Democratic Party leadership. We need to move back top the Left to be effective again. Following the Republicans to the Right is obviously not working very well, now is it? At least not for the average American.

[HereSince1628]

14. With ~100 replies it looks to be within the margin of error of the spring result

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A lot of posts and replies, a lot of snides and hides and very little has changed.

Who'd a thought?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. I'm Bernin'

[betsuni]

23. Okay, here's a change.

In the last poll I chose Sanders. Even though I'd still like Sanders as president (forgetting about electability, which is too early to tell) I won't add my name to this poll. This is entirely due to the behavior of some of his supporters. I won't be associated with such people any more than I'd hang around with hateful delusional right-wing lunatics. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are not Satan-Dick Cheney.

[Logical]

24. Oh, FFS, name ONE politician where a minority of their supporters are not jerks? Did....

you vote for Obama? Was any Obama supporters rude to Hillary?

You sound like you just want to whine.

[betsuni]

37. As usual, insults.

WERE any Obama supporters rude, WERE.

[Metric System]

25. I will not vote in this poll because it's a sad reminder of all the Hillary supporters who've been

driven away from DU.

[cali]

27. no one has been driven away

It's a choice. I have frequently been in the minority here and been attacked for it, but I never whined about it or ran away.

[Metric System]

38. No, you just start threads every day outlining yet another reason you dislike Hillary.

[Chan790]

61. We're entitled to dislike her, are we not? n/t

[hifiguy]

67. Many in Camp Weathervane

do not think we are so entitled and make that belief clear at every opportunity. Our proper role is to look on adoringly at HRH and nothing more.

[GitRDun]

44. You don't whine or run away

because you like the fight...invective angry posts with bad language to posters are the norm often these days on DU.

Insult those whose opinions people don't care for, no matter how well meaning those opinions are offered.

There are many who would prefer a different environment.

I don't think it's safe to say that just because you enjoy it, that should be how most feel.

[earthside]

31. Fine.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

It is an evidence, in my opinion, of the deep problems of the Hillary candidacy that her supporters must find solace in their safe haven on DU and tend to only venture out to cast the aspersion of 'sexism' on backers of Mr. Sanders.

I am increasingly of the belief that Mrs. Clinton will indeed take a great fall in the next several months. After eight years of Pres. Obama's reasonable, but uninspiring leadership, the people of this country are ready for something bolder and braver. Hillary Clinton is not that candidate.

[Metric System]

39. Have you seen the unrelenting negative threads about Hillary? After a while, as a supporter, you

have to ask yourself why do you keep returning to a place that makes you so frustrated and angry. In other words, health over Hillary.

[earthside]

41. Have you seen the unrelenting negative threads about Bernie?

After a while, as a supporter, you have to ask yourself why do you keep returning to a place that makes you so frustrated and angry. But most opponents of Hillary and/or supporters of Sanders keep fighting the good fight to bring true progressivism to the Democratic Party.

In other words, country and party over Hillary.

[L0oniX]

45. ~

[Warren Stupidity]

60. Wow. That is some awesome sauce you got there.

[hifiguy]

64. Quit hogging the joint.

That has to be some damn fine herb to get you that spaced out.

[Skwmom]

26. With all the Clinton supporters on this board, why don't I see more votes for Clinton?

Oh forget it, reading above I see what the deal is....

[JohnnyLib2]

32. Clinton supporter (still) here--

The poll numbers seem pretty representative of DU at this time. FWIW.

[demwing]

33. Compare the two groups

Bernie Sanders Group: 651 subscribers
Hillary Clinton Group: 206 subscribers

Bernie's supporters outnumber Hillary's by more than a 3 to 1 ratio.

Maybe there never were as many DUers that were ready for Hillary as you thought?

[Skwmom]

35. Well, just because you identify as a Bernie supporter doesn't make it so.

In politics so much is not as it appears.

[SheilaT]

36. Not to mention the Hillary group will not tolerate the slightest

dissension. They've banned 173 DUers, twice as many as the 87 banned from the Bernie group. I think that says a lot.

[VanillaRhapsody]

75. Maybe its because more go there TO

Stir up shit....

But that never occurred...

[demwing]

103. Personal responsibility

over and over, you're doing it wrong.

[VanillaRhapsody]

104. Huh?

Quite the jump....not following...

[demwing]

105. It's NEVER Hillary's fault when her poll #s drop

It's media bias, or Republican smear tactics.

It's never Hillary, ever.

Same with her supporter's group on DU, it's not THEIR fault that they ban so many people, completely disproportionate to the group size.

Instead, it's because the Bernie supporters are rehashing the media bias, or Republican smear tactics. Other people are always at fault. No personal responsibility is exhibited...

Let's lay it out right here. I'll admit there's some Bernie supporters who are trolling DU, will you admit that some Hillary supporters do the same?

[VanillaRhapsody]

110. I dont care about one poll

Odds of winning is what I am interested in...

74% as of right now....

Wait until we are in states with actual PoC!

[L0oniX]

46. Can't blame them. Why back someone who lost the last time.

[Go Vols]

77. +1

[Logical]

118. +1000 nt

[GitRDun]

42. Lol Welcome to Bernie Underground n/t

[Logical]

43. +1000 nt

[Android3.14]

57. You say that as if it were a bad thing

[GitRDun]

63. It is...

A BS echo chamber doesn't do him any good, or his supporters for that matter.

Self confirming feedback loops lead to.....defeat.

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. YOU NEED TO ADD THE OTHERS

PEOPLE CAN STILL CHANGE THEIR VOTES

BE FAIR.

[Agnosticsherbet]

51. whichever one appears on the ballot in November, 2016.

If you do this again, put I'm good with either one option.

[Warren Stupidity]

59. kick.

I do empathize with the Clinton supporters here, it is a lonely thankless job. In all likelihood she will still win the nomination, so they will get Their Moment of Gloat, but meanwhile, oh my, it must really suck.

[hifiguy]

65. The consistency is amazing.

Same proportion.

for Bernie

[WillyT]

68. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Logical]

82. Sure! nt

[MADem]

76. This crew liked Kucinich too...you're not going to get a sense of the electorate here.

[Logical]

81. I get a sense what real liberals like. nt

[MADem]

84. Because a "real liberal" has to march in lockstep with YOU?

Sounds rather the opposite of "liberal" to me...

[Logical]

85. No because the DU tends to be more liberal that the normal democrat. Well, maybe not you....

but most are.

You like to whine a lot.

[MADem]

89. """"You like to whine a lot."""""

Ah, spoken like a true "real liberal" eh?

[Logical]

90. Calm down. Hillary will probably be nominated by corporate dems. So you will be happy. nt

[MADem]

93. """"Calm down.""""

Your behavior is the opposite of "liberal."

Don't be piqued with me for noticing.

[VanillaRhapsody]

111. Dont have a sad...

up!

[demwing]

107. I have never been a Kucinich fan

crossover support is natural but not absolute.

But nice way to smear two (2!) progressives with a one-line word fart.

[MADem]

109. Interesting that you would call a simple observation (not a smear) a "one line word fart."

A bit ... sensitive, are you?

[ibegurpard]

120. hardly

Dean was the man until the Wes Clark astroturf invasion. I still think the Clintons were behind that one

[Capn Sunshine]

80. Swarm! Swarm!

This reminds me of the General and his followers in 2004. Swarm any poll.

[Logical]

91. Apparently they are swarming real polls in New Hampshire also. Weird. nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

113. Not Fla and Gergia though!

Better send some NH voters down there quick!

[VanillaRhapsody]

112. Swarm alert!

[Tommy2Tone]

101. Useless endeavor.

[Logical]

102. Wow, very insightful! nt

[chervilant]

114. I am amused by the fact that you asked a simple question:

If you could magically pick the next president, who would you pick??

with a reasonable codicil:

Forget if you think they are electable.

and all the various supporters of each candidate responded with vehement (sometimes shrill) support for their fave candidate.

hmm...

I don't think you'll get unbiased answers to your poll.

[Logical]

115. Still big lead for Bernie! Nt

[chknltl]

121. KnR attn eridani