2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Biden run?
I think he will because Hillary's dropping like a hot rock and he can play the "not as bad" card. "Not as bad - radical - liberal) as Bernie and "Not as bad" as too conservative Hillary" , and "Not as bad as the Republicans".
I also think that if he runs it will turn into a 3 way race with each of them having a chance of winning the nomination. I hope he does run so it will split the establishment vote and give Bernie a better chance.
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msongs
(67,441 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)cantbeserious
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hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and that is a most refreshing change.
for Bernie
longship
(40,416 posts)But I sincerely doubt that he is going to jump into the race. Although it is not too late -- remember RFK in 68? -- I just don't see it happening.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)He's a lifelong politician and the gold ring is dangling out there because Hillary is fading and the establishment Democrats consider Sanders too liberal. He could step in and drain Hillary's diminishing support, lose some/win some to Bernie and have a good chance of being nominated.
longship
(40,416 posts)Like him or not, Joe is above all a nice guy. I may be wrong, but I think he stays out.
Either way, it is going to be fun. Maybe more fun with Joe in the race, however. In the end it is up to him and his family.
We will likely see soon enough.
My best to you.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)In my opinion, he should be the Vice President for life. But starting so late, with all the stuff he knows now, I justy don't know.
Dr. Jill took a teaching position just last month that commits her through Oct of 2016 is that's any indication.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)meetings and a whispering campaign in favor; and more than that, people feel it's *unseemly*, given his son's recent death--there's the impression among even casual observers that he's being pulled from the graveside to save the Establishment's bacon as a compromise candidate acceptable to the top ("right" and bottom ("left" of the party
of course that'd make him an assigned, installed, handpicked--nay, drafted--feint to keep out a candidate whose "threat" to the party is that he has a growing backing
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)But, there is a gap there between Bernie and Hillary that he could fill and have a chance of winning the prize.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)on about an equal number of issues) but would be "acceptable" to economist populists (despite being a steadfast MBNA Joe)--he's done real work with Amtrak for the "rebuild America" types
me b zola
(19,053 posts)Rochester
(838 posts)He's in his 70s and he's spent over 40 years in Washington. It's too easy for me to imagine him saying "I'm done." I bet he'd also rather be remembered as a kick-ass vice president than a three-time failed candidate if he doesn't get nominated, or loses the general. And his son just died. So I'm not expecting him to run.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 8, 2015, 02:31 AM - Edit history (1)
I think he'd split the vote with Hillary, so I'm good with that.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I'd say it's still a possibility, but not a slam dunk by any means.
Personally, Biden's down near the bottom of my choices for nominee right now, unless he were to get up there and seriously renounce some aspects of his past that give me major misgivings, like his status as architect of and apologist for the drug war.
I have respect for Vice President Biden, I have sympathy for his recent personal loss, I think he's done a fine job as veep- but I don't see supporting an enthusiastic drug warrior for the nomination, not in 2016.