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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:49 PM Sep 2015

So we take as FACT that a SELF-identified Bernie supporter actually supports Bernie Sanders?

Last edited Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:48 AM - Edit history (3)

Really? Because that makes no sense whatsoever.

And as far as Bernie Sander supporters being cult followers let's look at the history of cults. The cult leader is generally a corrupt and deceptive person and that hardly describes Bernie Sanders. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.

The Washington Post recently ran an article where they compared Trump and Sanders supporters based on web posts where NO actual named persons were identified. Really?

Update: I have been watching this for weeks now. All of the outcry at Bernie supporters yet it is all directed at nameless ONLINE supporters or nameless people in a crowd. Really?

There has been a serious situation discussed in other posts and it should be looked at by the authorities and taken care of. They should be held accountable NO MATTER which candidate they support. However, it should not be used to score political points.

Did you read about the FAKE Bernie Pac set up by a guy that is a known scam artist? And surfing the web I have NO doubt in my mind that there are Bernie groups that at a minimum include members who are NOT supporters of Bernie Sanders. Healthy skepticism is a good thing to have, especially in the sleazy manipulative world of politics.










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So we take as FACT that a SELF-identified Bernie supporter actually supports Bernie Sanders? (Original Post) Skwmom Sep 2015 OP
If it serves a narative that they support. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #1
Can I buy a vowel? Seriously, can you provide more context to what you are talking about? stevenleser Sep 2015 #2
come on, you know virtualobserver Sep 2015 #4
No, I don't know. I have no idea what the OP is about. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #23
the new directive is for us to speak openly about it virtualobserver Sep 2015 #24
I think the OP is very clear. What did you not understand? sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #36
This got bumped up in my "My Posts" looks like someone I have on ignore responded. stevenleser Sep 2015 #37
I'm not even sure what you're reffering to. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #3
There's an accusation of a serious impropriety, allegedly by a Sanders supporter 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #5
OK, I doubt it's from a real Bernie supporter. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #7
It should be looked into by the authorities and taken care of. Skwmom Sep 2015 #10
I think that was the intended focus. 840high Sep 2015 #11
I believe you are correct. nt. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #14
Agree 110% nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #12
Yes, that's what should happen senz Sep 2015 #13
Yes, a serious issue that SHOULD have nothing to do with politics. It would not be very difficult sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #38
I was accused of personally knowing this "Mr.Citizen" simply for expressing... 99Forever Sep 2015 #17
I have NEVER said that it was manufactured. I'm against using something to score poltical points. Skwmom Sep 2015 #19
My response was to 99th Monkey. 99Forever Sep 2015 #25
I agree with you about the possibility of it being fake. n/t ieoeja Sep 2015 #29
I just got hit with something similar in another thread. nt Zorra Sep 2015 #30
This letter should have been sent to the admins immediately, and not posted Zorra Sep 2015 #31
I agree with you on that. -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #32
could you supply the WaPo link you are talking about? eom. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #6
Here Skwmom Sep 2015 #8
Thank you. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #9
Superficially at least, maybe more, WaPo has a point here. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #16
It is used to subtly push the memes they are promoting against Sanders. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #18
WP seems to have become the print Fox news and Co. Autumn Sep 2015 #20
Only in regards to the non-corporate candidates. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #21
Yep, their job, just like Fox is to misinform and make sure the divide remains. Autumn Sep 2015 #22
Sure it does when it suits your meme. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #26
Explain that please. Trump has attracted the far right FRINGE Bigots of this country. He doesn't sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #39
It does not matter. MuseRider Sep 2015 #27
It isn't the first time. jeff47 Sep 2015 #28
The freepers once found out more about me than I thought they were capable of. arcane1 Sep 2015 #35
I know all about them MuseRider Sep 2015 #40
Obama supporters were also called "cult" followers. Vinca Sep 2015 #33
And they are still upset that many of the Bernie supporters voted for Obama. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #34
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
4. come on, you know
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:18 PM
Sep 2015

You are probably the only person on here who can be confirmed as an actual supporter of Hillary.

the rest of us are anonymous....I could be a supporter of Ted Cruz or an advance scout for a race of aliens from a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri.

Response to virtualobserver (Reply #4)

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
24. the new directive is for us to speak openly about it
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:06 AM
Sep 2015

with the media because they will report the opposite as a part of operation "Up is Down."

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
37. This got bumped up in my "My Posts" looks like someone I have on ignore responded.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 01:11 PM
Sep 2015

Sorry, can't read the response.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. There's an accusation of a serious impropriety, allegedly by a Sanders supporter
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:30 PM
Sep 2015

snail-mailing a nasty note to a DU Clinton supporter. A federal crime, some say.

There's a back & forth now about if the alleged "Bernie supporter" is really a
real person , or if it's some kind of dirty-tricks to gin up nasty rumors about
"those nasty Sanders supporters".

To me -- regardless of who the alleged is -- the whole kerfuffle is just another
distraction, away from talking about issues voters actually
care about, where our candidate stands, etc.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. OK, I doubt it's from a real Bernie supporter.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:43 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe not even a DUer based on the zip code in the incident you're probably referring to.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
10. It should be looked into by the authorities and taken care of.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:07 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:11 AM - Edit history (1)

It is a serious issue and should be addressed. However, some want to seem to use it for political purposes and that is not what the focus should be.

And my post is about what has been going on for WEEKS.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
13. Yes, that's what should happen
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 01:12 AM
Sep 2015

however, I think you are absolutely correct that some seem to be using it solely for political purposes. And it is disgusting. And they should be ashamed of themselves. But they probably don't even know any better.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
38. Yes, a serious issue that SHOULD have nothing to do with politics. It would not be very difficult
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

to find the perp with a little effort. I'm sure DUers would even be willing to fund a Private Detective which imo, would be the best way to find out who this idiot is.

I am very skeptical however of people who SAY they are concerned about the victim of this vile behavior BUT USE it for political purposes.

Doesn't matter what the POLITICS of the Perp are, or shouldn't. And if that is the main concern of ANYONE here they need to get their priorities in order.

I personally, if I were the recipient of such a nasty letter to my personal address would definitely find out who it was.

Law enforcement are not likely to make it a priority but Private Investigators are very good at this kind of thing and this person SHOULD be exposed imo. Mainly because they may be dangerous. And that would be my main concern, that the person who received it is SAFE from any threat by what is clearly a person who is unbalanced.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
17. I was accused of personally knowing this "Mr.Citizen" simply for expressing...
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 07:39 AM
Sep 2015

... doubts as to the entire kerfuffle's authenticity. By a very vocal and partisan Clinton supporter.

I think you are exactly correct, it's nothing more than just another manufactured distraction from the real issues.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
19. I have NEVER said that it was manufactured. I'm against using something to score poltical points.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:39 AM
Sep 2015

Obviously I will have to further clarify above.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
25. My response was to 99th Monkey.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:23 AM
Sep 2015

Nor am I saying it was manufactured for certain, but given the history of the tactics used by some around here, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was.

What I can say with absolute certainty, is that no Sanders supporter I have ever met or spoken with, would EVER do such a thing.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
31. This letter should have been sent to the admins immediately, and not posted
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:29 AM
Sep 2015

publicly on this forum.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
39. Explain that please. Trump has attracted the far right FRINGE Bigots of this country. He doesn't
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 01:24 PM
Sep 2015

stand a chance of winning this election. Every nations has its fringes, Trump has reached the max in reaching out to them and that is about all he is going to get.

Now please explain the 'point' this Wapo garbage has re comparing a majority of DUers eg, with the Bigots that make up Trump's following.

Who on this forum eg, 90% of whom are Bernie supporters, agrees with Trump's insanity regarding Immigration?

Thanks in advance, it is this kind of garbage that has to be exposed and this kind of garbage that is destroying, or has in the past, our entire political system.

NOW, people are not going to tolerate it anymore, accusations and implications and dirty tricks which often were brushed aside in the past, see the Swift Boaters eg, are NOT going to be allowed to fester anymore.

So let's have a discussion about your opinion and see if you are correct or not.

Make the comparisons you see between Democrats who support Bernie Sanders and Right Wingers from the fringes of society who make up Donald Trump's entire following.

MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
27. It does not matter.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:06 AM
Sep 2015

What happened to bravenak matters. People will decide what they want to and no amount of outrage or discussion will change that. The fact is it happened to someone here who was a good and genuine poster and the entire reason is racism. Very scary.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. It isn't the first time.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:11 AM
Sep 2015

There's people on a conservative message board who are obsessed with DU. They assemble "files" on prominent DUers, and have harassed other DUers in real life over the years.

They did it again seems far more likely than someone new took up the tactic.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
35. The freepers once found out more about me than I thought they were capable of.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:53 PM
Sep 2015

I don't recall now how I got on their shit list to begin with, but they managed to find me on a now-defunct social network that had photos of me.

MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
40. I know all about them
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:17 PM
Sep 2015

but the authorities will solve this if possible. It seems wrong for us to fight over something none of us knows when the reality is one good DUERS life being put in danger or if not that at least terrified. We will never solve this but we will certainly make the gulf larger over something that we can't effect or is not part of the reason we are here. YMMV I guess.

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