2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo we take as FACT that a SELF-identified Bernie supporter actually supports Bernie Sanders?
Last edited Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:48 AM - Edit history (3)
Really? Because that makes no sense whatsoever.
And as far as Bernie Sander supporters being cult followers let's look at the history of cults. The cult leader is generally a corrupt and deceptive person and that hardly describes Bernie Sanders. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.
The Washington Post recently ran an article where they compared Trump and Sanders supporters based on web posts where NO actual named persons were identified. Really?
Update: I have been watching this for weeks now. All of the outcry at Bernie supporters yet it is all directed at nameless ONLINE supporters or nameless people in a crowd. Really?
There has been a serious situation discussed in other posts and it should be looked at by the authorities and taken care of. They should be held accountable NO MATTER which candidate they support. However, it should not be used to score political points.
Did you read about the FAKE Bernie Pac set up by a guy that is a known scam artist? And surfing the web I have NO doubt in my mind that there are Bernie groups that at a minimum include members who are NOT supporters of Bernie Sanders. Healthy skepticism is a good thing to have, especially in the sleazy manipulative world of politics.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Thanks
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)You are probably the only person on here who can be confirmed as an actual supporter of Hillary.
the rest of us are anonymous....I could be a supporter of Ted Cruz or an advance scout for a race of aliens from a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Response to virtualobserver (Reply #4)
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virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)with the media because they will report the opposite as a part of operation "Up is Down."
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Sorry, can't read the response.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)???
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)snail-mailing a nasty note to a DU Clinton supporter. A federal crime, some say.
There's a back & forth now about if the alleged "Bernie supporter" is really a
real person , or if it's some kind of dirty-tricks to gin up nasty rumors about
"those nasty Sanders supporters".
To me -- regardless of who the alleged is -- the whole kerfuffle is just another
distraction, away from talking about issues voters actually
care about, where our candidate stands, etc.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Maybe not even a DUer based on the zip code in the incident you're probably referring to.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:11 AM - Edit history (1)
It is a serious issue and should be addressed. However, some want to seem to use it for political purposes and that is not what the focus should be.
And my post is about what has been going on for WEEKS.
840high
(17,196 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)however, I think you are absolutely correct that some seem to be using it solely for political purposes. And it is disgusting. And they should be ashamed of themselves. But they probably don't even know any better.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to find the perp with a little effort. I'm sure DUers would even be willing to fund a Private Detective which imo, would be the best way to find out who this idiot is.
I am very skeptical however of people who SAY they are concerned about the victim of this vile behavior BUT USE it for political purposes.
Doesn't matter what the POLITICS of the Perp are, or shouldn't. And if that is the main concern of ANYONE here they need to get their priorities in order.
I personally, if I were the recipient of such a nasty letter to my personal address would definitely find out who it was.
Law enforcement are not likely to make it a priority but Private Investigators are very good at this kind of thing and this person SHOULD be exposed imo. Mainly because they may be dangerous. And that would be my main concern, that the person who received it is SAFE from any threat by what is clearly a person who is unbalanced.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... doubts as to the entire kerfuffle's authenticity. By a very vocal and partisan Clinton supporter.
I think you are exactly correct, it's nothing more than just another manufactured distraction from the real issues.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Obviously I will have to further clarify above.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Nor am I saying it was manufactured for certain, but given the history of the tactics used by some around here, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was.
What I can say with absolute certainty, is that no Sanders supporter I have ever met or spoken with, would EVER do such a thing.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)publicly on this forum.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Autumn
(45,078 posts)They are as different as night and day.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Autumn
(45,078 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)stand a chance of winning this election. Every nations has its fringes, Trump has reached the max in reaching out to them and that is about all he is going to get.
Now please explain the 'point' this Wapo garbage has re comparing a majority of DUers eg, with the Bigots that make up Trump's following.
Who on this forum eg, 90% of whom are Bernie supporters, agrees with Trump's insanity regarding Immigration?
Thanks in advance, it is this kind of garbage that has to be exposed and this kind of garbage that is destroying, or has in the past, our entire political system.
NOW, people are not going to tolerate it anymore, accusations and implications and dirty tricks which often were brushed aside in the past, see the Swift Boaters eg, are NOT going to be allowed to fester anymore.
So let's have a discussion about your opinion and see if you are correct or not.
Make the comparisons you see between Democrats who support Bernie Sanders and Right Wingers from the fringes of society who make up Donald Trump's entire following.
MuseRider
(34,108 posts)What happened to bravenak matters. People will decide what they want to and no amount of outrage or discussion will change that. The fact is it happened to someone here who was a good and genuine poster and the entire reason is racism. Very scary.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)There's people on a conservative message board who are obsessed with DU. They assemble "files" on prominent DUers, and have harassed other DUers in real life over the years.
They did it again seems far more likely than someone new took up the tactic.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I don't recall now how I got on their shit list to begin with, but they managed to find me on a now-defunct social network that had photos of me.
MuseRider
(34,108 posts)but the authorities will solve this if possible. It seems wrong for us to fight over something none of us knows when the reality is one good DUERS life being put in danger or if not that at least terrified. We will never solve this but we will certainly make the gulf larger over something that we can't effect or is not part of the reason we are here. YMMV I guess.
Vinca
(50,270 posts)It served us well.