Thousands turnout for Hillary in Milwaukee

[bigdarryl]

So much for the BS that Hillary can't turnout big crowds http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/11/1420291/-Turnout-of-thousands-for-Hillary-Clinton-rally-in-Milwaukee

[riversedge]

1. You go gal.

[Thinkingabout]

2. Thanks, a picture of more than the early arrivals, good deal. Now when others gets their turn

to post more falsehoods it will be only one or two people there.

[TM99]

3. Two Thousand is not bad,

but it is a stretch to call it a huge turn-out compared to the other candidate passive aggressively not mentioned in your post.

Her NYC event maxed out around 5000. The other candidate drew 10,000 in Madison in July.

So what was the event actually like now that the pissing contest over the size of the crowd is out of the way?!

[left-of-center2012]

8. Wait a minute !

Haven't we been told by HC supporters that crowd size doesn't matter
(when it comes to Bernie)
because crowd size doesn't mean voter turn out?

[Motown_Johnny]

25. Also arm waving, but she did a Labor Day Parade

and walked out in front of a big crowd waving her arms for quite a while.

[Motown_Johnny]

4. that looks like a pretty small room

and I don't see where they got that estimate from

are we sure it is accurate?

[RiverLover]

5. Right? 2000 couldn't fit in that room, from the looks of it. /nt

[oasis]

15. Read the story in the provided link .

More than ONE room.

[Motown_Johnny]

23. even so, is there an official estimate?

Fire marshals tend to provide that. I see no reference to an official estimate.

[oasis]

37. Fire marshal?? Don't wait for anyone to tidy up a minor point for you.

I suggest you continue your investigation using your valuable time and resources, then get back to us.

[Motown_Johnny]

44. Sorry, that was poorly phrased.

I was trying to refer to the maximum occupancy as set by the fire marshal.

I see your point, that was not a smart way to get my thought across.

[Autumn]

19. It was 2000. Another room and I think an overflow area

2000 is thousands, one more than one thousand.

[NorthCarolina]

6. Does it matter?

Bernie is barely able to draw 10 to 15 times that number at his rally's.

Oh wait....you might be on to something there.

[virtualobserver]

11. it is a little sad

Hillary supporters must have other stuff to do....too busy to attend rallies.

[RiverLover]

7. The Union Ballroom - Capacity 750

http://uwm.edu/union/reps/event-spaces/multi-purpose-rooms/ballroom/

[NorthCarolina]

10. This event was probably

held at the OTHER union Ballroom...the one that holds "Thousands".

Kudos for looking that up...pretty funny.

[Romulox]

14. OOPS! I'm sure the OP will come back and edit their error! nt

[Joe the Revelator]

47. HA! Typical.

[virtualobserver]

9. they got that figure from "a world of pure imagination"

[artislife]

13. But they say they are the reality based ones...

[virtualobserver]

16. and they are correct....unfortunately it is virtual reality

[Skwmom]

21. Held at a University, paper says 700 in room

with with a few hundred more watching by video in the UWM student center concourse. Who knows if it's correct.


The speech delivered Thursday saw Clinton clearly in her element, speaking to a largely supportive crowd disrupted only briefly by a group of protesters (doesn't say how many) chanting anti-war slogans.

Since it was held at a University who knows the true total - how many would have been in the student concourse center, was extra credit given by teachers to attend, etc.

But, it fits the meme they want to push...

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2015/09/10/in-uwm-appearance-hillary-clinton-lambasts-scott.html

The KOS headline appears misleading but since when did the truth matter in politics.

[bunnies]

34. If the room only holds 750 then that 700 number makes sense.

Its pretty sad that someone felt the need to exaggerate the head count.

[Skwmom]

41. Would I be surprised that a teacher for Hillary gave extra credit for students to attend? No.

They manipulate so much, you can't take anything at face value. No wonder she has a trust issue.

[bunnies]

46. Did that happen? nt

[left-of-center2012]

12. OMG ! A huge block !

"They waited as long as two hours in line,
out the building
and halfway around the block
(a huge block)"

Oh wait ~ only half way around the (huge) block.
Bummer

[SouthernProgressive]

17. Most of us are well aware she can turn out large crowds.

Those who have attempted to say otherwise don't have that much experience in politics. Hillary doesn't have to put herself in the same position as the others. She doesn't have to take the risk. She nailed her kick off rally and has held some pretty good size events. She doesn't need to commit resources to the things needed with huge crowds. It is a great benefit toward her campaign. Sanders has to get his name out there and big crowds get written about. They also take away from his extremely limited resources. It is a big picture kind of thing. Wait until you see the crowd size at her inauguration. That is going to be the big one that matters and she has her eye on the prize. Go Hill.

[catnhatnh]

18. 2000 is correct

"But she clearly had the support of the overwhelming majority of hundreds who gathered at the student union Thursday night.

The "Women for Hillary" event drew approximately 2,000 people, including 1,000 people inside the Wisconsin Room, an additional 300 watching in an adjourning theater and as many as 700 in a concourse of the union, said Tom Luljak, vice chancellor of university relations and communications for UW-Milwaukee."

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/clinton-heads-to-milwaukee-for-women-for-hillary-event-b99574409z1-326458721.html

Pathetic but correct...

[leftofcool]

20. Why pathetic?

Oh, I get it. You still think that large crowds translates to actual votes. Pity.

[oasis]

22. Funny folk, these anti-Hills. They'll do their own research in

order to post hit pieces on Hillary all over DU. But when an OP produces a pro- Hillary story w/ link provided, they don't even read it and start in with the wise cracks.

[quickesst]

24. I wouldn't say wisecracks

.... but more like smart ass remarks intended to hurt and humiliate other DU members. The pleasure they gain from this is almost palpable, and a little sadistic.

[virtualobserver]

27. when your candidate draws crowds of 27,000 -28,000

and Hillary supporters say that it is meaningless, it is not "sadistic" to contrast.

The extremity of your remark is almost beyond belief.

[quickesst]

29. Bullshit

The glee is apparent as you guys try to outdo each other, and the intent is obvious. I stand by my opinion, which I am entitled to have.

[virtualobserver]

33. of course you stand by it.

Negative characterizations of Bernie supporters is the DU game plan for Hillary supporters.

[leftofcool]

36. Right now, Bernie supporters just don't look all the good.

[Ron Green]

38. Oh, there you are! Did you ever go back to your OP:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251584964
wherein lots of people schooled you as to why Bernie's seemingly anti-Democratic remarks are indeed very pro-democratic?

You ought to check in over there; refute some of those arguments!

[reddread]

45. holding breath

ah, never mind I was getting a headache.

[virtualobserver]

42. brilliant campaign theme but it is a losing one

as confirmed by the polls

[quickesst]

39. You're right

And many of you have earned it. A lot you work pretty hard at it. Congratulations.

[virtualobserver]

43. our efforts are modest compared to the "bernie supporters are bad" squad

you are the hardest working supporters in show business.


"bernie supporters are sadistic" , you do win the prize with that one.

namecalling, labelling....it is how you occupy your time on Team Hillary

[quickesst]

49. Actually.....

...I said a "little sadistic". There is just that air of satisfaction some Bernie supporters seem to get out of their insults aimed at Hillary that reflects that. Kind of like that of a little kid who gets a kick out of pulling the wings off of a fly and watching it flop around helplessly. Of course, the little kid doesn't think he's doing anything wrong either.

[virtualobserver]

50. I don't know what kind of little kids you are hanging around......

but Hillary supporters do their fair share of similar ridicule in order to establish her superiority.

I have to say that you chose an apt metaphor for Hillary's candidacy with your fly flopping around helplessly.

[quickesst]

52. Haha....

"Hillary supporters do their fair share of similar ridicule in order to establish her superiority." I don't suppose, even now, that you realize you have just confirmed what I said to be true. Of course I deny that Hillary supporters even own a share, and don't worry, you won't get an admission of guilt from my side of this discussion. Thanks

[virtualobserver]

53. What I confirmed was the "fair share of similar ridicule" from Hillary supporters.

If you accept that statement as a confirmation, then I don't suppose, even now,
that you realize you have just confirmed all of what I said to be true.

and since, as Hillary has taught us, denial is of course, the required first step in the Hillary™ process,
I realize that this could take some time. Admission of guilt isn't until step four.

[quickesst]

54. Ok...

Whatever makes you feel good about yourself. I'm all for that.

[virtualobserver]

55. This isn't about how I feel about myself.....

What I am "all for" is discussing the merits of each candidate,
not the supporters of each candidate.

[quickesst]

56. If that is the case

... then you shouldn't have engaged me in conversation knowing full well from my original post that it was about candidates supporters. I'll just leave you with this.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251587704

Nuff said.

[virtualobserver]

58. I engaged because I feel compelled to resist when that becomes a theme in a thread

as for the link that you added....

I can understand why you might object to the sentiment, and it was over the top
but can you imagine a Robert Reich as Secretary of Labor in her administration.

The party has veered in that direction.

[quickesst]

61. ok

I can imagine a lot of things, but I am confident she will make wise choices if elected, just as you are confident in your candidates judgment. Maybe things will work out for all of us in the end. I will gladly cast my vote for Bernie if he is the nominee, but I think there is a long way to go before we know who it will be.

[virtualobserver]

63. I will cast my vote for Hillary as well, just not as gladly

It is not because I think that she is horrible, she just has a different perspective.

I just believe that we are at the point of no return in terms of money in politics as a controlling force.

I worry that mainstream Democrats will take half-measures in terms of combating that because they have been dependent on that money.
I hope that I am wrong about that.

[sabrina 1]

32. I agree, I don't think it helps anyone to try to hurt people in any way. Same goes for

Hillary supporters, not all of them by any means, but those who go out of their way to attack 'Bernie supporters' which we've seen here for weeks now.

If everyone just focused on the ISSUES this forum might be a good place to figure out what is best for this country. I remember an excellent during the early Bush years where that was exactly what people were able to do.

But when a forum turns into a battle field about irrelevancies, IT becomes irrelevant and only serves the purpose of being an entertainment forum.

Maybe that's what it is intended to be, who knows, but for serious discussion of the ISSUES, many DUers go elsewhere at this point, RL is actually so completely different to this little corner of the internet where a few people seem to care more about 'winning on the internet' than anything else.

[daleanime]

26. That's great....

did she decide not to wait until she's president to tell them about her position on the XL pipeline?

[think]

28. Sounds like Hillary got a decent crowd. Much better than most of the GOP candidates are getting

other than the Donald...

[kenfrequed]

30. Yeah...

She deserves credit for getting people to show up. I think she still has work to do if she wants to get Bernie-level
enthusiasm.

As far as Trump goes, I prefer to call him "don-don the mutant hairpiece"

[think]

31. Fits him well.

[workinclasszero]

35. Go Hillary!

[HereSince1628]

40. Nothing wrong with the size of that crowd. It's pretty good crowd.

As it's often been noted about Bernie, I'll note that that pic doesn't look like it really reflect the balance of demographics in Milwaukee.

However, for several reason I wouldn't expect it to.

First, to reflect the actual ballance a whole lot of people who work jobs where they can't miss a day without risking being fired couldn't attend. Second, participation in WI primaries is terrible.

People who don't have a strong committment to the primary process aren't going to show up.

[aidbo]

48. What about super delegates? Did she pick up any super delegates there?

That's whats really important, right?

[Jamaal510]

51. HC isn't my first choice (I prefer Biden or O'Malley), but

it's nice to see positive threads like this about her instead of just CT's about her emails, her and the DNC being in bed together, and other forms of unfair criticisms about her. I'm happy to hear that she has massive crowds and that people are excited about her. I have no problems voting for her in the GE, and I believe all of our candidates (except maybe Webb) would be excellent presidents provided that they have cooperative Congresses.

[cherokeeprogressive]

57. Did she tell any good jokes?

Or has Laugh-Track Hillary not been officially rolled out yet?

[Autumn]

59. What a warm welcome, a lot of white people there.

It's seems counting the POC or white people in an audience is the newest hobby on DU. And yes approximately 2,000 is thousands

[beam me up scottie]

60. Yes, it's all the rage!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=587948

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=587736

[HereSince1628]

62. Yes I noted that, too

in my reply