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cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:31 PM Sep 2015

I pledge to vote for the person the Democratic Party nominates for President of the United States.

I'm not done yet though...

I also reserve the right to support who I support until the nomination is decided, in whichever way I choose to support that person. If you think my talking smack about your candidate, whomever that may be is bashing? Hang it in your ear, and grow some skin.

So until such time as the nomination is decided; YOU FUCKING GO BERNIE. You're coming close to changing a decision I made some time ago... to never donate to a politician or party again.

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I pledge to vote for the person the Democratic Party nominates for President of the United States. (Original Post) cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 OP
I'm with ya CP ! GitRDun Sep 2015 #1
but of course nt wendylaroux Sep 2015 #2
Two weeks ago, I would have taken this pledge... mak3cats Sep 2015 #3
...and electing a Republican will help "send her a lesson"? brooklynite Sep 2015 #39
See, this is the trouble... mak3cats Sep 2015 #55
Yes. nt ladjf Sep 2015 #53
Donald Duck is too old to run, but if he were the Democratic nominee, I'd vote for him. Frustratedlady Sep 2015 #4
We had better all Nite Owl Sep 2015 #5
The GOP will add 2 more Scalias to the Supreme Court. oasis Sep 2015 #7
That is the most important reason awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #8
Not just 2 . FOUR justices will be 78 to 83 on election day. In 2025, Hortensis Sep 2015 #28
I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Sep 2015 #6
I'd vote for a ham sandwich lovemydog Sep 2015 #9
I've decided to forgo that pledge. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #10
So you're saying you'd not vote for Bernie Sanders should he win the nomination. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #11
I's saying I reserve the right to sit out any election without a Democrat on the ballot. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #12
This post is lipstick on a pig. Try again. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #13
Are you unable to comprehend English? MohRokTah Sep 2015 #14
LOL. Best comeback I've seen all day. Popcorn. Big and puffy... with no substance. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #15
More substance than your flippant response. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #16
So what's your play if Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic Nomination for President? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #17
I might sit out 2016. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #18
Lots of substance there. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #19
You asked a question MohRokTah Sep 2015 #20
Why answer when you have no answer? I might... I might not... that's not an answer. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #21
That is a perfectly valid answer. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #22
Damn. Know what? I JUST noticed your avatar. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #23
I support a Democrat. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #24
Mmmmkay. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #26
LOL. I didn't notice MohRokTah's avatar either. MRT, fwiw, Bernie Hortensis Sep 2015 #29
What's your stance on Dov Hikind and Kim Davis? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #33
You support a DINO. (nt) Ino Sep 2015 #43
Bernie isn't even a Democrat. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #44
It's sad when an Independent is more true to Democratic ideals... Ino Sep 2015 #46
That just simply isn't so. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #47
Please define what Democratic ideals are to you. (nt) Ino Sep 2015 #48
If your test for who is a Democrat can be passed by Kim Davis but not Bernie Sanders Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #49
Bernies Sanders is not now, has never been, and never will be a Democrat. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #50
If your test for who is a Democrat can be passed by Kim Davis but not Bernie Sanders Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #52
LOL! A Palinism underthematrix Sep 2015 #27
Me too PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #30
There will be a Democratic nominee jfern Sep 2015 #31
If Sanders wins, the Democratic nominee willnot be a Democrat. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #34
I agree with your right not to make that pledge LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #35
If there is no Democrat on the ballot, I reserve the right to choose to sit that election out. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #38
Your right. Interesting, though -- are you then confirming that party is more important than LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #40
I am confirming that I equate the two. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #41
No one should vote for a person that doesn't represent them LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #42
I support Hillary qazplm Sep 2015 #51
We all age our own decisions to make. Eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #54
Indeed. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #25
I won't make that pledge. David__77 Sep 2015 #32
I make no blind pledges to anything or anyone, ever. 99Forever Sep 2015 #36
I don't do Pledges Sorry. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #37
I will ONLY vote for and Support those who support my values YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #45
I'll vote for any Democrat who is nominated, except for one. nt Zorra Sep 2015 #56

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
3. Two weeks ago, I would have taken this pledge...
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:42 PM
Sep 2015

...and I may yet, but I am thoroughly pissed off. I am a long-time Dem committee person (officer and all, and state committee member at one point) and DWS' high-handed, authoritarian manners these days regarding the debates are really infuriating. I tell every single person who calls from the DNC looking for money (and this is EVERY DAY) that I will not give a single dime to the national party as long as there has been no debate. The Republicans are getting all the airtime and our party is being sidelined. We have more than one candidate, and they all have a right to be heard. This is bullshit.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
55. See, this is the trouble...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 11:30 PM
Sep 2015

...I take it from your posts that you are in the upper echelons of the party. You all take us grunts for granted. We work, and work, and work, and when we're not listened to, we get angry. And then we're told, "But if you don't fall back into place, you'll end up with Republicans!"

Well, guess what? At some point we're going to rebel. And I think this is the time to do it. It's the only chance I'm going to have in my lifetime to make a stand, and hopefully make a difference. And maybe you powers that be will actually pay attention to us grunts for a change.

So the next time you have dinner with whomever, spread the word.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
4. Donald Duck is too old to run, but if he were the Democratic nominee, I'd vote for him.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:47 PM
Sep 2015

It is too early to be doing all this candidate bashing, so why don't we let the best man/woman win and then take out your energy on the opponent of the Republican side? A lot of enemies among DU members seem to be growing and that shouldn't be the way it's done. Work for your candidate, but accept whichever one the Democratic party chooses. This country will be done if the Republicans ever take control again.

Pretty please?

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
5. We had better all
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:54 PM
Sep 2015

Make that pledge...the Republicans have a scarey group. Senate,House and Presidency? It will
be worse than the Bush years. No regulations on any corps, women's rights down the drain and war, war, war.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
8. That is the most important reason
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:16 AM
Sep 2015

We can't lose the Supreme Court, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg can't hold on forever.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Not just 2 . FOUR justices will be 78 to 83 on election day. In 2025,
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:41 AM
Sep 2015

when the president we elect in 2016 will mostly likely leave office, these four justices would, of course, range in age from approximately 86 to 91 years old.

Let's not forget that Scalia's retirement would enable a conservative president to appoint another hard conservative to serve for the following half century. A way of subverting the will of an increasingly majority population that neither believes in or is served by reactionary Christian white male supremacy.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
9. I'd vote for a ham sandwich
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:29 AM
Sep 2015

over any current republican. So yes, of course I'll vote for the democratic party nominee.

That's great that you support Bernie.

I'm trying to look not only at what they say, but also what they can or will accomplish.

I'm giving a serious look at O'Malley. And Hillary. And Bernie.

I'm a democratic socialist. I'm not a sellout or corporate lackey for saying that I'm currently undecided but I'll give them all a fair shake.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
10. I've decided to forgo that pledge.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:39 AM
Sep 2015

I reserve the right to sit out the election should there be no Democrat on my ballot.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. LOL. I didn't notice MohRokTah's avatar either. MRT, fwiw, Bernie
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:52 AM
Sep 2015

Sanders has a solid record of voting with the Democratic caucus 95% of the time.

Also fwiw, I fully expect to be voting for Hillary myself.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. What's your stance on Dov Hikind and Kim Davis?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 05:56 AM
Sep 2015

They're both democrats. They've both been Democrats for a very long time. And htey are openly and aggressively despised by the same disloyalists you're perturbed by here.

You will of course defend these staunch party members, won't you?

Won't you?

No? Why not?

Oh, you disagree with them about stuff? Imagine that.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
44. Bernie isn't even a Democrat.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:15 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton is precisely what a Democrat is, so literally, Bernie supporters are the true DINOs.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
46. It's sad when an Independent is more true to Democratic ideals...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:31 AM
Sep 2015

than war-mongering, fracking, corporate-bought Democrats <--- if that's precisely what a Democrat is, or should be, then I'm proud to support Sanders instead.

But it smells like a Republican to me.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
47. That just simply isn't so.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:32 AM
Sep 2015

Bernie is an extremist leftist and that has very little to do with Democratic ideals.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
49. If your test for who is a Democrat can be passed by Kim Davis but not Bernie Sanders
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 11:14 AM
Sep 2015

You are using the wrong test.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
52. If your test for who is a Democrat can be passed by Kim Davis but not Bernie Sanders
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 11:28 AM
Sep 2015

You are using the wrong test.
You know two of the candidates on the slate right now were Republicans, Republican officials, Reagan administration and big money old GOP power family stuff. Somehow they are considered Democrats. Chafee never caucused with the Democrats, Bernie never caucused with anyone else and is a co-founder of our largest Congressional caucus.

The Democratic Party says Bernie is a Democratic candidate for the nomination to be the Democratic nominee.

But you reject what the Party says, and wish to apply the Davis Standard. It's your choice.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
35. I agree with your right not to make that pledge
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:26 AM
Sep 2015

No one should be forced to take a loyalty oath, they should instead be free to vote for the person that best represents them.

If Sanders wins the Democratic nomination and his views aren't your cup of tea, you should vote for whomever you choose. However, if you don't think his views are representative enough of the Democratic party, I think you're in the wrong party.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
38. If there is no Democrat on the ballot, I reserve the right to choose to sit that election out.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:40 AM
Sep 2015

I only vote for Democrats.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
40. Your right. Interesting, though -- are you then confirming that party is more important than
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:43 AM
Sep 2015

policy for you?

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
42. No one should vote for a person that doesn't represent them
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:08 AM
Sep 2015

Personally, I find that voting for a label, as you are describing--"I'll vote for Sanders if he has a D after his name, but not an I after his name, even though his policy views are identical either way--incomprehensible. It is just as silly as those people who say "I've always voted Republican, Ima gonna vote Republican" again, even though on individual issues they align more closely with Democratic positions.

I could be wrong, but I suspect even with the D after his name you won't vote for Sanders, and your actual issues is not with his party affiliation but rather his traditional Democratic positions. That's OK, no one should vote for someone that doesn't represent their beliefs.

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
51. I support Hillary
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 11:27 AM
Sep 2015

and that's just a plainly idiotic and stupid position.

I don't care that Bernie isn't a Democrat when the competition is batshit crazy and would be horrible for this country.

David__77

(23,385 posts)
32. I won't make that pledge.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 05:45 AM
Sep 2015

At the same time, I expect that I will vote for the Democratic candidate. I'm not running for office, or heading any sort of organization. I have no purpose for making such a pledge, and won't do it.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
36. I make no blind pledges to anything or anyone, ever.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:29 AM
Sep 2015

Especially political organizations. Earn my support and vote or do without it.

Period.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
37. I don't do Pledges Sorry.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:37 AM
Sep 2015

That's too Norquist-y. I don't like Pledging Allegiance to a flag either. CREEPY STUFF - so don't take it personally.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
45. I will ONLY vote for and Support those who support my values
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:19 AM
Sep 2015

Ya want something different from me ya best be holding a gun to my head in the voting booth and be prepared to pull the trigger.

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