Cornel West: Join Brother Bernie on the Love Train!

[Fawke Em]

For those of you who were worried, you shouldn't have been. West was fiery, but didn't go off on a tangent. In fact, this introduction gave me chill bumps. The crowd seemed to eat it up, too.

Edited to add correct URL.

Another edit to add Bernie's speech:

&feature=youtu.be

[Juicy_Bellows]

1. Listening now - getting the train ready.

Great speech by Brother West but I got excited and boarded the wrong trane!

[Fawke Em]

2. Hahaha! You did what I did.

I went and hunted for that song on YouTube after hearing West, too.

[Juicy_Bellows]

4. Yep!

So we got a little trane on train action, nothing wrong with that!

Cheers!

[navarth]

30. Oh yes

Saint Coltrane.

One of the things I love about brother West is his love and promotion of good music.

[LWolf]

57. Can't resist it.

It was a great intro, too, lol. Good to see enthusiastic people there.

[roguevalley]

97. awesome. :D

[Luminous Animal]

3. That was an amazing intro!

From WaPo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cornel-west-joins-bernie-sanders-on-the-campaign-trail-in-south-carolina/2015/09/12/bc9b4236-58c2-11e5-b8c9-944725fcd3b9_story.html

Both West and Sanders were warmly received by the crowd, which included a mix of Benedict students and Democrats from the surrounding area.

Tevin Spruill and Christopher Lewis, two students, said they had not heard much about Sanders prior to his appearance Saturday but were leaving the gymnasium prepared to support him.

“Every single thing he said made complete sense,” said Lewis, 20, a junior majoring in social work.

Spruill said he wasn’t particularly concerned about West’s criticism of Obama, suggesting it was different to criticize a sitting president than someone still aspiring to the job. As for Obama, “he hasn’t done a perfect job, but he’s been a good president,” said Spruill, 21, who is a music major.

[Fawke Em]

6. Why are our young people making more sense than some of us older folks?

Spruill said he wasn’t particularly concerned about West’s criticism of Obama, suggesting it was different to criticize a sitting president than someone still aspiring to the job. As for Obama, “he hasn’t done a perfect job, but he’s been a good president."

[sabrina 1]

41. 'Every single thing he said made complete sense'!

All Bernie needs to win this election, is for people to get to know him. This student did not know much about him, now he's a supporter.

[SusanaMontana41]

44. The OP said West's intro gave her chill bumps.

I felt the hair on my neck stand up.

WOOO HOOO!

[KoKo]

59. Definitely go to this WaPo Link....I spent over an Hour There...Great Stuff

Including Video of Sander's Southern Swing and great Clips put together by the WaPo Staff showing Bernies Real Message...and for Hard Core Politico's .......it's worth spending the time on this Site for a Sanders Lollapalooza of Good Vibes!

Thank You for posting this. I'd pretty much given up on US Mainstream Media....but in this "particular instance" the Reporters on this "WaPo Story" did a Fantastic Job on the Bernie Campaign, Southern Swing and I give them Credit for this.

John Wagner at "WaPo" is a Reporter to Watch for Great Bernie Coverage over at "WaPo." For NOW at least. Many of us "on the left" know not to trust much in the way of good reporting for OUR ISSUES...but, for now...WaPo is Worth a Visit for the Article, Videos and some very fair and balanced Bernie Coverage....(for as long as it lasts).

[PatrickforO]

177. "Every single thing he said made complete sense."

That's why it is starting to look like Bernie will carry the day. He keeps saying stuff that makes sense.

[MohRokTah]

5. West's support of Sanders solidifies my position.

I will sit out the GE if Sanders is nominated.

[SonderWoman]

7. Boo.

[orpupilofnature57]

104. Boo-Who ?

[orpupilofnature57]

105. He's been a Pillar of the African American community a lot longer than 10 yrs .PERIOD

[TheFarS1de]

112. Of course he has...

but one "wrong" move in their eyes and straight under the bus you go . One incident outweighs EVERYTHING else that person ever did in some people's eyes .

[orpupilofnature57]

118. MSM Misanthrope Sycophant Monsters

[senz]

185. The "wrong move" was aligning himself with Bernie.

That's what they can't forgive.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

188. No, the wrong move was going against Obama.

[senz]

189. Okay, thanks!

From now on, I'll just ask you, Spitfire.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

190. West went too far when he said Obama was like Zimmerman to the environment.

[senz]

195. Obviously he thinks and speaks in metaphors.

Literalists never understand metaphoric language. West must have been hanging out with too many academics and forgot to speak more simply and less colorfully for certain elements of the American public.

But what he was saying, Spitfire, is that he thought Obama's policies were destructive to the environment in the same way that Zimmerman was destructive to Treyvon Martin. The similarities might lie in Obama's power and the environment's "unarmed" quality, i.e., it just sits there and gets done to -- and, ultimately, destroyed.

West wanted Obama to be more environmentally conscious as well as more protective of AAs against White Supremacists (in another metaphoric statement that scandalized the literal). Do you understand that? West was defending what is good against what he saw as Obama's capitulation to that which is bad. West champions AAs and the environment. Would you fault him for that? I doubt it. What you fault him for is expressing his concerns in metaphoric language with shocking, offensive (to some) terms.

BTW, I like Obama and just yesterday got reamed by a DUer for defending him.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

196. Cornel West IS an academic.

[senz]

197. Obviously. That's a given.

So?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

198. He's often misquoted or taken out of context....

As are many professors.

Look at Noam Chomsky.

[beam me up scottie]

8. I thought you said you would sit it out because you won't vote for a "Socialist".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=587175

[MohRokTah]

9. Do you understand what "solidifies my position" means? eom

[beam me up scottie]

10. I just thought I'd point out that you called him a Socialist.

I'll leave it up to others to decide whether your false claim is relevant to your newest reason to not vote for Bernie.

[MohRokTah]

11. I didn't call him a Socialist

That's what he called himself.

[beam me up scottie]

14. "Can't bring myself to vote for a Socialist."

It's right there in the link.

[MohRokTah]

16. Right. Bernie Sanders is a Socialist.

He says so himself.

[beam me up scottie]

17. He's a democratic socialist while Kim Davis is a Democrat.

But I suppose blind loyalty to that big D is all that matters to some.

The rest of us care about issues that matter to everyone.

[MohRokTah]

18. He claims Democratic Socialist now...

When he was in the House, it was just plain old Socialist.

And some think the man "talks straight".

[beam me up scottie]

19. I'll take the democratic socialist who didn't need to evolve on civil rights, thanks.

When Hillary talked straight, she really talked straight.

[MohRokTah]

20. I'll take the REAL Democrat over the Socialist any day. eom

[beam me up scottie]

22. Of course you will, like I said issues only matter to some of us.

[MohRokTah]

23. Issues matter to me.

I oppose a far left extremist agenda supported by Sanders.

[beam me up scottie]

25. "far left extremist agenda supported by Sanders"

You are hilarious.

[MohRokTah]

26. Only the extremists see nothing extreme about Sanders.

Much like how Trump supporters see nothing extreme about him.

[beam me up scottie]

27. And there's the gratuitous comparison to Trump supporters!

Bravo!

[mccallen]

28. Hes so far left, hes on the edge

Hes too vanilla for me

[Armstead]

29. Examples of far left extremist?

[AgingAmerican]

180. HE is barely to the left of center

nt

[zeemike]

32. If what Sanders supports is far left extremist then I am one too.

But that shows us just how far down the rabbit hole we have come. Because there is nothing at all in what he supports that is against our constitution in any way.
And it is telling that it is now considered far left extremism.

[Bluenorthwest]

33. You remind me of Obama's critics who claim he's a Marxist Anti Colonial Radical Muslim

but can't name any basis for any of those wild characterizations. You could write for Rush. Won't vote for the Democratic nominee, says he's a wild leftist. Rush.

[MohRokTah]

38. Barack Obama is the greatest president since Roosevelt.

Possibly the greatest since Lincoln.

[Lucky Luciano]

72. FDR and Bernie have nearly the same exact principles and ideas.

Was FDR a leftist extremist? Nope, FDR's positions back then were what democrats were. Democrat moved far to the right....so now FDR is a leftist extremist...and I guess do is sanders according to you. As a bonus, Sandwrs promises not to set up internment camps!

[MohRokTah]

75. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

The Socialists DESPISED FDR.

[Lucky Luciano]

82. I was only referring to policy positions. Not superficial labels.

Bernie and FDR are from the same cloth politically.

[L0oniX]

133. -

[MohRokTah]

136. Proving you have no clue about actual accomplishments. eom

[L0oniX]

139. I can't wait for you to tell us how you will sit out the GE ...during the GE.

That will be your accomplishment.

[MohRokTah]

142. If Bernie Sanders is nominated...

I will quietly leave DU as I will not violate the rules here.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

147. Good. n/t

[AgingAmerican]

181. Yay!

First thing you said today that made sense.

"If my candidate loses, I will take my toys and run home crying"

[DisgustipatedinCA]

192. The fact that you believe an emoticon can prove something tells me a lot about you.

To wit, I shouldn't listen to anything you have to say, because your reasoning is severely flawed. It's the same reason I don't take Sarah Palin seriously.

[frylock]

76. Clinton was in step with that far left extremist agenda 93% of the time.

[senz]

187. So you oppose a fair chance for working people, hm? Okay...

[arcane1]

53. Party over policy is how some people roll.

I'm glad I'm not one of them.

[MohRokTah]

54. Policy means dick if the candidate is unelectable.

Sanders is unelectable.

[arcane1]

55. Elecability means nothing without policy. And principles.

Reagan and Bush were electable.

[MohRokTah]

65. They both had policies and principles

Fucked up sick principles and policies that helped the few at the expense of the many, but policies and principles nonetheless.

[AgingAmerican]

182. You are describing Obama

nt

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

69. That is the mantra of H supporters. It's all you have!

[AgingAmerican]

183. Hillary 2016: To the right of left!

Cuz right wing has done so much for this country!!

[frylock]

78. HILLARY 2016: Electable!

[beam me up scottie]

79. Hillary 2016: Better than a Republican!

[frylock]

81. Hillary 2016: Don't be Sexist!

That means you too, ladies.

[beam me up scottie]

83. Hillary 2016: She's not a pinko commie dirtbag!

[L0oniX]

134. LMAO

[NorthCarolina]

91. You don't have to sit it out,

there's always Trump.

[MohRokTah]

92. Nope. eom

[L0oniX]

99. ^^^this^^^

[revmclaren]

111. Not according to Bernie...

5. In a speech he gave at the National Committee for Independent Political Action in New York City on June 22, 1989, reprinted in the December 1989 issue of the socialist publication Monthly Review: “In Vermont, everybody knows that I am a socialist and that many people in our movement, not all, are socialists. And as often as not — and this is an interesting point that is the honest-to-God truth — what people will say is, ‘I don’t really know what socialism is, but if you’re not a Democrat or a Republican, you’re OK with me.’ That’s true. And I think there has been too much of a reluctance on the part of progressives and radicals to use the word ‘socialism.’”

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/14-things-bernie-sanders-has-said-about-socialism-120265#ixzz3kAy40T4x

Unless you say he has 'evolved' into a democratic socialist.....

I think Bernie's own words are quite clear.

As for Kim Davis, why are you even using her in the same sentence as Sanders....???

Sanders is a good man and a socialist...Davis is pond scum and a Democrat IN NAME ONLY!

[beam me up scottie]

113. Blah blah blah RED SCARE blah blah blah

EEEEEK!!! Bernie's gonna take my yacht!!!

You guys really need a new shtick, that kind of tactic only works on morons who don't know the difference between communists and socialists.

Maybe you should try it on another website because Duers aren't buying what y'all are selling.

You get a cookie for trying so hard though, those emoticons really helped make your case.

A nice warm snickerdoodle!

[revmclaren]

114. Blah blah blah...

Knows what Bernie said but can't seem to comprehend it...blah blah blah.. Has no response to seeing Bernie's own words and being TERRIFIED of them so blah blah blah...

Who's scared of the truth???

If I found that one postin a 30 second search, you know damn well it's already waiting in the right wings arsenal but blah blah blah..

That's why I and many others here will be happy after the primaries when you and the other blah blah blahs slither away...

[beam me up scottie]

119. Then go peddle your "research" elsewhere because everyone here knows about it.

You guys keep thinking we're going to panic whenever you drag out that quote.

It's kind of cute in a desperate pathetic kind of way.

Keep trying though, I'm sure there's someone on DU who'll think this is a big deal.

But for now ---

[revmclaren]

123. Nope... Like it here..

And I WILL post the link and his words whenever I see someone on their high horse spouting disinformation. But night night....

Tomorrow is a whole new day for spreading...well spreading something.

[beam me up scottie]

127. Spreading something seems to be your specialty.

Well, that and building straw men, but cheer up! You're in good company!

This forum is full of desperate HC supporters who will say and do anything to deflect from the issues that really matter:







Toodles!

[revmclaren]

129. I like to think of it as spreading sunshine...

Ahhhh... A 'bash Hillory' chart...right on que. charts good, national polls BAD.

KEEP TRYING...

Oh, I got another person promising to vote for Clinton today IN THE REAL WORD.. and no charts or anything.

That's 42. And I haven't even started campaigning yet. Next month. But as a great man once said "Please proceed!"

[beam me up scottie]

130. How is that a "bash Hillory" chart? It compares them on the issues you say you care about.

Cool story.

I've converted quite a few disgusted Hillary supporters.

My dogs, cats and horses are Smitten with Bernie too.

They are sick of pols who pay lip service to our issues and sell out as soon as they get in office.

Smart critters.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

193. Here's a challenge for you.

You post some of Bernie's lies and I'll post some of Hillary's lies. The person who comes up with the fewest number of verifiable lies gives $100 to the DU. Are you in?

[revmclaren]

117. By the way...

What do you have against socialists that makes you frightened to admite that sanders is one by his own words...

Huh?

Huh?

Do you think a socialist can't win... Bernie thinks he can.

Or is all you can say is blah blah blah...

[beam me up scottie]

120. Straw man. Why don't you try stuffing those words

in someone else's mouth.

[revmclaren]

124. A straw man doesn't use someone's own words...

But you know that....

[beam me up scottie]

126. Bzzzzzzzzt! Fail. This is the straw man you "defeated":

What do you have against socialists that makes you frightened to admite that sanders is one by his own words

[revmclaren]

131. So you don't take sanders own words seriously?

Wow.

That's all I have to say...

Well not all, given you too much of my time already though.

Next response will not be answered, but feel free to give one. I know your just berning to. But posting to thin air is just so meaningless. Ttfn.

[beam me up scottie]

132. And another straw man! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!

That sound you just heard was the point screaming over your head at Mach 1.

[senz]

186. Excellent point. n/t

[Joe Turner]

86. Most democrats consider themselves socialists

to some degree. To be virulently against socialists is puzzling and in keeping with the right wing of the Republican party.

[MohRokTah]

87. No, most Democrats DO NOT consider themselves socialists. eom

[TheFarS1de]

95. Yes they do . eom .

[MohRokTah]

96. Prove it. eom

[TheFarS1de]

116. No , the honus is upon you ...

I just utilised the same research you did . Show me yours and I'll show you mine .

[MohRokTah]

121. The initial claim was that most Democrats are socialists.

The initial claim is under the burden of proof.

I am not the initial claimant.

Prove it.

Even worse, your demand is that I prove a negative.

Again, prove the initial claim.

[TheFarS1de]

128. By definition of policy ....

You dispute that and offered nothing but conjecture .

[MohRokTah]

135. By all rules of debate...

the initial claim was made with no supporting evidence.

Prove it.

[Joe Turner]

145. Prove it.

I think FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Jimmy Carter makes for a nice start. If democrats don't stand up for social programs to help people hurt by the ravages of unrestrained capitalism exactly what do they stand for these days? A republican lite version of corporate socialism?

[MohRokTah]

146. I did not make the intial claim. eom

[L0oniX]

101. Ah ...so they have that in common with republicans? Ok ....Bwahahahahaha

Can ya feel the luv reaching across the aisle now?

[senz]

191. Have you ever taken a look at Northern European governments?

Particularly the Scandinavian countries? That's the kind of "socialism" Bernie Sanders is talking about. That's also the same kind of "socialism" that FDR began to institute with Social Security and unemployment insurance. And of course, he was called a "socialist" by his political enemies (whom you would have loved).

If your mind could recognize anything beyond surface labels, you might be able to grasp that the concept (can you handle concepts?) of using government to secure the rights of ALL Americans was essential to the philosophy of our nation's founders. It is fundamentally American. It is also, in rightwing thought, highly, highly "socialistic." "Socialism," for rightwingers -- and apparently for you -- is a dirty word. Get over that.

[99th_Monkey]

62. You mean you "can't bring yourself to vote for" a DEMOCRATIC Socialist, don't you?

Just a minor detail.

[beam me up scottie]

66. Those were MRT's exact words, that's why I corrected him upthread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=588114

[99th_Monkey]

67. Ahh. ok. Thanks. nt

[beam me up scottie]

70. He does that all the time, note the capital S in socialist too.

OOGA BOOGA SOCIALIST!!!

[99th_Monkey]

71. I kind of expected Republicans to hurl the "S-word" as a put-down

other Democrats (especially "real" ones) .. not so much.

oh well.

[revmclaren]

125. Not a put down. Sanders said, and I quote...

5. In a speech he gave at the National Committee for Independent Political Action in New York City on June 22, 1989, reprinted in the December 1989 issue of the socialist publication Monthly Review: “In Vermont, everybody knows that I am a socialist and that many people in our movement, not all, are socialists. And as often as not — and this is an interesting point that is the honest-to-God truth — what people will say is, ‘I don’t really know what socialism is, but if you’re not a Democrat or a Republican, you’re OK with me.’ That’s true. And I think there has been too much of a reluctance on the part of progressives and radicals to use the word ‘socialism.’”

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/14-things-bernie-sanders-has-said-about-socialism-120265#ixzz3kAy40T4x

He was proud to state it then, why add 'democrat' to it now?

I really would like an answer but all I seem to get is blah blah blah...(see post 113)

[notadmblnd]

178. No, that is not what he calls himself

He calls himself a democratic socialist and there is a difference. I have posted that difference here twice in the past. I will now leave it up to you to do your own homework if you are still not familiar with those differences. If you don't familiarize yourself with those differences, it can only be assumed that it is because you don't really want to know.

[Rockyj]

143. WTF?

Why do you FEEL you have to DEFEND HILLARY & the NEED to point out that Senator Bernie Sanders is a "SOCIALIST" WHEN he is actually a "DEMOCRATIC" SOCIALIST! Are you that insecure that you & your fellow DIE HARD Hillary supporters will no longer support her because she's actually a REPUBLICAN/NEO-LIBERAL like Raham Emanuel & Barack Obama? http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=376

[beam me up scottie]

144. Um, hello?

Fellow Bernista here, did you maybe reply to the wrong post?

Did you see my other posts?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=588114

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=588139

[Indepatriot]

13. I'd make some lunch reservations for election day.....

[frylock]

37. No big loss..

we'll handle this.

[MrMickeysMom]

40. Do you what you must, Moh...

… I believe the rest of the people in that room understand who will stand for them.

I know who will stand for me. And when you fold your arms relying on others to carry this message to every member of congress and stand up for ourselves, we actually will be doing you a favor.

Happens every day.

[840high]

47. I'll vote for Sanders in your place.

[MohRokTah]

48. No, you won't.

You would have been voting for him anyway.

At least when I move to Ohio in a couple of months I'll be able to ignore the shit.

[840high]

94. Yes I would have voted him

anyway. Good luck with your move.

[KoKo]

74. Oh...Come on Dr. West Gave a Great Introduction to Bernie on THE ISSUES

that Hillary Ignores.

Did you Watch....Listen? This is about "Power to the People" and NOT..."Power to the Corporations" and the Wall Street Crowd that Obama was Forced to Allow to NOT be PROSECUTED for their CRIMES!

Do You not remember the 2008 MELTDOWN...throwing the Poor, Disinfranchised and "Flip this Property" Media Campaign Innocents into Bankruptcy and Losing their Homes as it went on?

And, where was Obama's Justice Department?

Do you KNOW where Eric Holder has gone since leaving Obama's Justice Department? It's truly disgusting how he profits from his Service for Wall Street before and Now After Serving in Obama Administration!

Read Up! It's very sad what is going on compared to what we Voters were Promised.

We need to build on Obama (what little he could do...and some he did push back on when he could) and BREAK FREE!

[MohRokTah]

77. I have precisely NO respect for West. eom

[KoKo]

89. Why?

[L0oniX]

98. NEWS FLASH: uhm ...we don't care. n/t

[Autumn]

102. It's all good. I have enough respect for him to cover a dozen people who have

NO respect for Dr West.

[orpupilofnature57]

106. Me too !!!

Look at his history .

[Autumn]

107. We got the whole place covered then

[liberal_at_heart]

154. That's cool with me. I think everyone has that right. I know I will sit out the GE if Hillary is

elected.

[sibelian]

167. Hmmmmmm I don't think your "position" was all that flexible to begin with.

It's only us here, Mok. We all know you, m'kay? You don't have to pretend.

[Betty Karlson]

172. Cue the new anti-Hillary meme:

"Clinton's supporters are sore losers who'd rather throw the election than elect a Democrat."

[MohRokTah]

173. I've seen plenty of Sanders supporters say they would not vote for Hillary if she was nominated

Turnabout is fair play.

[Betty Karlson]

174. Play - doubtfully so. Fair - not at all.

Because two wrongs don't make a right. Be the better person.

Love, Betty.

[MohRokTah]

175. There are conditions under which I would hold my nose and vote for Sanders.

If Cruz or Huckabee should become the GOP nominee for example.

[Betty Karlson]

176. Which makes you the better person already.

And I'm sure there are plenty of Sanders supporters who are willing to hold their nose for Mrs. Clinton.

Between them, Clinton and Sanders are carving out the most progressive Democratic platform in decades. They agree on a lot of issues that matter to the voters. Theoretically, that means their supporters have a lot of common ground too.

Have a great day!

Betty

[AgingAmerican]

179. Based on ....

Nothing...lol

[Indepatriot]

12. Brother West brought it!

BTW- saw the O'Jays at Jazz fest a couple years back and they STILL GOT IT!!!

[azmom]

24. Really, wow.

[Uncle Joe]

14. Great introduction video and I'm in the early part of watching Bernie's address.

Thanks for the thread, Fawke Em.

[KoKo]

90. Well worth the time reading the site and the only Good Snips

I've seen of any reporting on Bernie's Southern Swing...anywhere.

Who knows how long this good reporting will last on MSM "WaPo" website....but, we should enjoy it for now and give the reporters who went to cover Bernie some hits...before they lose their jobs!

For now...I think this is the best reporting of Bernie's Campaign that I've seen, anywhere. Which leads me to believe there might be a reason for that. They don't assign reporters to "lesser Dem Candidates" unless something is brewing "under the scenery."

Anyway, whether this lasts with good reporting or not, I will enjoy the whole read while it lasts.

[Uncle Joe]

103. I watched the entire video of Bernie's speech and it was good.

However we must stay vigilant in regards to the corporate media, they love nothing more than to set a frame in the hopes that it will jell and compartmentalize a candidate in which many of them are at odds with.

The corporate media loves "Citizens United" as it butters their bread with more mega-bucks, so to buck that self-serving dynamic takes a great deal of discipline and integrity on their part, I fervently hope they prove up to the task.

Peace to you, KoKo.

[azmom]

21. West was awesome, and so was Bernie.

They are truth tellers and the truth is refreshing for the soul. I hope everyone has a chance to see this video.

This election is fucking fantastic.

[DirkGently]

31. KNR n/t

[KoKo]

34. Great Post! Can't Recommmend Enough for the Snips of Bernie & Dr. West...Plus!

The "Washington Post" (WaPo) doing this incredible Coverage of Bernie's Second Swing Through SC, NC, VA and the Coverage in Video Snips (really capturing Bernies Message) and Commentary that is the most Thoughtful about Bernies Campaign I've see to Date!

to "WaPO" for this coverage and the Important Snips from his Southern Swing Speeches including the Black College Audiences and others.

I spent Over an Hour just READING the WaPo Coverage and was shocked that a "MSM Corporate Owned and Loving Website like WaPo" would do the great job their reporters did (so far) on "Bernie's Second Southern Swing!

The article and the Media Snips are Incredibly Good and Worth the Watch (even if a brief commercial interferes for a bit) .......I've not seen coverage like this on Sanders from any MSM so far.

WaPo sent a Reporter and Photographer on Bernie's "Southern Swing 2" which no Other MSM that I know of has done So Far.

Truly a Great DU Post and a MEDIA BREAK THROUGH for BERNIE!

Here's the WaPo Link that will take awhile to get through but for "BERNIE" supporters its well worth it. Links and Snips that we Bernie Supporters and All Dems should Watch.

GREAT JOB "WaPO!".........BUT.......Will it LAST?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bernie-sanders-is-plotting-his-path-to-the-democratic-nomination/2015/09/11/08ddb472-573c-11e5-8bb1-b488d231bba2_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

[Drunken Irishman]

35. Why Bernie would embrace this racist POS support baffles me.

I'm really disappointed in Sanders. The vile, racist crap West has flung at the President is disgusting and should not be accepted by any Democrat.

[MrMickeysMom]

42. Give me a reference to that racist stuff West flung, Drunken...

… Or, has this already been asked of you before?

[a2liberal]

46. I suspect

I'm not very familiar with West but I suspect the complaint is of the "if you criticize Obama you must be a racist" or "if you criticize Hillary you must be sexist" variety.

[MrMickeysMom]

49. Well, I see nothing to convince me of anything else...

It's a damned poor argument.

I'll probably hear crickets on this.

[840high]

50. Yep

[pnwmom]

150. No, it's of this variety:

Obama is, according to Cornel West, the first "ni***ized President."

[MrMickeysMom]

161. Mind if I hear that myself?

I believe I missed that statement, but you'd point me to it?

[pnwmom]

163. Did you miss this?

He says it about 30 seconds into the video. Can you understand why many African Americans don't appreciate West talking about Obama like this?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=588970

[pnwmom]

149. It's not hard to find, MrMickeysMom.

Here's one example. West said Obama was the first "n****ized President."

West can't stand President Obama. He's also called him a "black mascot" and a "black puppet." He used to support Obama but turned on him when he didn't get a special invitation to the inauguration.

And I think he's jealous that Obama succeeded in a way he never could.

[MrMickeysMom]

170. How can you come away from viewing this and think that...

… Dr. Cornel West is "just jealous"?????

Yeah, you're right… I missed seeing this response before asking for an example of how it the "n" word was applied to Barack Obama by Cornel West. So, thank you for pointing me to this clip.

Having seen West's response to what Obama had become on behalf of standing up to white supremacists in this nation, I understand the crudeness his term, "ni******tion" (which is guess has become a term synonymous with Uncle Tom's Cabin characterizations".)

I can understand two things - 1) the anger with having this pejorative flung at Obama, it's because there are many (both back and white Americans) who are angry that Obama did not stand up more on behalf of black Americans. and 2) the need to do what is right after promising to do what is right.

Is this real display of West's no different than the Black Lives Matters activists who publicly "in your face" voiced over the Sanders movement that HE had not addressed the BLM imperatives enough?… not stood UP enough on behalf of those Americans?… not took a more firm approach against the powers that be?

How does THAT suddenly become a racist comment when all you have to do is watch West's explanation and admitted angst a la, "in your face description"? West thought Obama should have made good on things that still have not been address in that strong language is more of a racist comment, now? He's jealous? I think you're smarter than that. Did YOU hear what he said? Can YOU see what the subject is?

Is there some "do not speak" rule when faced with expressing extreme frustration about those promises Obama turned away from? Or, is there a veil of "don't go there".

Drill down to the issues, and I'll tell you what - No one has an easy job of addressing them, and the fact that Bernie Sander's movement has fused a commitment from those who yearn for the same goal… which is Dr. West's goal… These are real goals to work passionately and focus a commitment to.

THAT is what Cornel West is talking about. Jealous? Jealous about WHAT? This isn't about personalities. This is an intellectual argument as to WHAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING as a nation.

[arcane1]

56. You're the one dragging race into this, in standard Clintonian tradition n/t

[NorthCarolina]

109. Apparently it's a good thing

for America your line of thinking on this subject appears to be solidly with the minority.

[Bonobo]

140. So you are one of those white folks that think black people can be "racists". Gotcha. nt

[KoKo]

36. Cornell West did a Great Job speaking to those Young College Students!

They Know! But, finally someone is speaking up for them for their FUTURE.

Many DU'ers thought that Dr. West would be a Drag on Bernie. "Too Radical" ....no one wants to listen to him because "He is Extreme."

Looked to me that Dr. West was a great lead into Bernie.....and he didn't sound like some "Crazy Man Socialist" trying to corrupt the American System at all.

Both West and Sanders SPOKE THE TRUTH....for ALL AMERICANS!

I have hope that those Young People heard that Message as a Message of "Identify the Problem...and Work to Change It" ....which gives "Power to the People."

[haikugal]

68. Well said KoKo!

[KoKo]

93. Thanks! I thought he did a great job down there in SC...and wasn't "out of touch"

on the issues or sounding like "a Crazy Man" at all! Surprised at the posters who dislike Dr. West and want to trash him just because of his current "Socialis Dem Leanings," while the whole Repub Party including Donald Trump seem like Nazi Fascists in Their Views!

[haikugal]

100. Me too...and again we agree!

[FloridaBlues]

108. West will be Bern pastor wright problem for him

[MrMickeysMom]

171. Ditto, KoKo!

What YOU said!

[frylock]

39. I was led to believe that the Black community despised Cornell West

[MrMickeysMom]

43. How ?

Really wish someone could point to what Cornell West actually said that was anti AA or black…. really.

[frylock]

51. Well, he did level some rather harsh criticism of Obama couched in some pretty strong language..

he's always been known to keep it real, but I could see where people might take exception with some of his criticisms, if not they way they were stated.

[MrMickeysMom]

115. That matches what I know, frylock...

I can see where people might have taken exception with some of those criticisms, but it doesn't rise to the level as described herein.

When I think of what the president of the united states has to do to play the game, and when they do, they can expect that kind of criticism, I think it is not for the faint of heart and mind.

It's aged Obama. I feel that deep inside, BO knows that he's conceded, or like people around me say, "spelunker in chief" is what resulted, well, then, what can one expect? These are things unrelated to race.

[arcane1]

73. He criticizes Obama and expresses his disappointment win him, therefore he hates black people.

That's the level of stupid we're dealing with today

[L0oniX]

141. You got it!

That's the level of stupid we're dealing with today

[Truprogressive85]

45. make no mistake there some black ppl who despise him

I'm not one on of them.

Unlike other black academics who talk a good game , Dr. West has been on the front line at rallies , got arrested, and sees fire in the youth.

[frylock]

52. Seemed to be a rather enthusiastic crowd there today..

I was impressed with Dr. West's intro. Hopefully Sanders made an impact.

[Truprogressive85]

60. dr west did great

If I'm Sen. Sanders to help push his message w/i black community :

1. I would go to HBCUs all throughout the country keep spreading his platform
2. Keep addressing and put a spotlight on injustices that POc go thru with the police /justice system
3. As he been keep talking about the high number of unemployment within the black community
4. Have a street team that will go into black barbershops and salons to talk with customers

[frylock]

64. All of those are great ideas n/t

[Bonobo]

137. Welcome to DU!

I am sure there are black people that dislike him just as their are many who have nothing but the highest respect for him.

[Drunken Irishman]

61. Blacks, like any group, are not monolithic in their views.

Just look at one of the front-runners for the GOP nomination.

I'm sure West has support within the black community. However, many don't support his racist language toward the President.

[Bonobo]

138. Dude, it is entirely idiotic to say that West's language towards Obama is "racist".

In fact, "idiotic" is being kind.

[uponit7771]

153. So niggerized is a term you'd use at work with little thought of reprocussion?!

[Bonobo]

156. No, but calling a leader for black rights a racist

is mind-numbingly idiotic.

[uponit7771]

157. wait, so it's ok to use those terms towards a black person as long as the person is black

... and is a civil rights leader?

West said some shit that is not said in the black community about other black people...

I'm blow away at the acceptance of West labeling of Obama

[Bonobo]

158. Yup, it is.

And you should keep your nose out of the conversation basically. Not this one, but the one happening in the black community. It would be like you getting involved in a dispute between reform and Orthodox Jews.

[uponit7771]

159. I am black, and even if I wasn't it still not acceptable... West is at best condescending & putelant

...towards Obama.

Him and Tavis Smiley are well known Obama haters without much constructive criticism...

Also very disagree that West labeling of Obama is acceptable just because West is black or a civil rights leader.




West is an asshole, a condescending asshole... I'm blown away at the tone deafness of the association with Sanders.



Like someone allying with Trump and expecting to win a broad Hispanic coalition

[Bonobo]

160. Plenty of black people disagree with you.

Btw are you calling Cornel a racist?

[uponit7771]

162. I hope some disagree, we're not robots and West is worse... West is not ignorant ...he's an asshole

... a petulant self centered asshole the likings of Trump without the money.

[pnwmom]

165. Cornel's language toward Obama IS racist, and many millions more African Americans

support Obama than have even heard of Cornel West.

Which is probably why Cornel West turned from supporter to hater. He didn't get his engraved invitation to the inauguration, so he didn't feel he was treated with the deference he was due.

What a jerk.

[pnwmom]

164. His language toward Obama IS racist. Calling Obama "n****ized" is disgusting and racist. n/t

[Babel_17]

58. Great intro by West

I think other great speakers are going to picture themselves at Sanders rallies. Events like these are highly conducive for other progressives getting their message out.

[Catherina]

63. That was great. Thanks for posting those! n/t

[AzDar]

80. Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you our next President- Bernie Effin' SANDERS!!

Go Bernie, Go Bernie, GO!

[sadoldgirl]

84. There is a vast difference as far

as the youth is concerned. They want real change and
welcome Bernie.

When you get older many people are afraid of a lot
of change - positive or negative - and prefer minor
tweaking of the system. A lot of these look to
HRC as a sound continuation of present policies.

This time around though I believe most voters
want a real change, jmo.

[JDPriestly]

85. Fantastic. Never tire of listening to Bernie.

He is just amazing.

And everywhere i go, I meet people who are talking about Bernie, supporting Bernie and feeling the Bern.

It's just amazing.

Feel the Bern once again.

We are a great country. We are a compassionate country. And we can return to our greatness and our compassionate roots. There is nothing we cannot do if we work together. I was raised on that philosophy. I believe that philosophy. It is the American way.

Nowhere in the world do people know how to throw potluck suppers like we do in America. Nowhere. And those suppers are the symbols of how we love each other and work together for each other. It's the most American of traditions.

The Pilgrims did it. Our pioneer great-great-great-great-grandparents did it. And we will do it again. We will work together to improve our cpimtru/

[japple]

88. Bless you, Bernie Sanders, thank you Cornell West and now...

here's the LOVE TRAIN

[Puzzledtraveller]

110. I'm on, I donated to the campaign!

I am planning on doing more for Bernie.

[Paka]

122. That was great.

Thank you so much for the post.

[Zorra]

151. I would never worry about Dr. West. He gets it as well or better than anyone. nt

[uponit7771]

152. FUCK CORNEL WEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

194. You'll need his consent first, else you're a rapist.

This is a strange post.

[TM99]

155. I was never worried about West.

He is a powerful advocate for all in this country of ours.

He gave a great introductory speech for Sanders, and Sanders' speech was amazing as well.

Men like these two give me some modicum of hope this election season. I know that a small group of rapid Clinton supporters will begin their attacks here shortly, if not already, on West and Sanders because of West.

[Fawke Em]

166. This post was meant to show how loved Bernie is.

That his only subtractors are malcontents, proves my point.

[oberliner]

168. Cornel West: Obama A ‘Republican In Blackface’

During an interview last week with Democracy Now, author and activist Cornel West offered harsh criticism of President Barack Obama, calling him a “Rockefeller Republican in blackface” and not someone who is actually looking out for the best interests of the impoverished. The prominent social critic also lashed out at black MSNBC personalities, accusing them of “selling their souls” in support of a president who has been anything but progressive.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cornel-west-obama-a-republican-in-blackface-black-msnbc-hosts-are-selling-their-souls/

Very disappointed that Bernie would want to align himself with this character.

[tblue]

169. Fantastic! He hit all the issues that matter!

GO BERNIE!