Hillary’s Donors are Getting Really Scared

[left-of-center2012]

> While Clinton’s star is slowly fading and falling, Sanders’ is rising fast and “Berning” with increasing intensity.

> Sanders’ message is resonating across the board, even drawing support from some Republicans.

> ... her donors have seen the handwriting on the wall.
Some donors and backers are beginning to doubt her approach [to ignore Bernie].
Democratic power brokers are beginning to acknowledge that she could lose ...

> At some point, she is going to have to face Sanders head-on in a fair debate over the issues ...
unequivocally declaring who she is and what she stands for.

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/09/hillarys-donors-are-getting-really-scared-demand-she-start-addressing-bern/

[HooptieWagon]

1. She needs to debate more.

Rather difficult to bring your message to the public with $2700/plate dinners and $1,000,000 Wall St speeches.

[morningfog]

3. And she could if she wanted. The ball is in her court.

It is her and her alone preventing more debates. Bernie and O'malley would join non-DNC sanctioned debates if she graced her presence. But she won't.

[morningfog]

2. Good! They should be. Wrong horse.

[HooptieWagon]

4. Caveat Emptor. nt

[SonderWoman]

5. I love articles written with no sources...

Just "anonymous" unnamed people with out even a quote from the source. The internet is fun.

[morningfog]

9. Right, it is impossible to imagine that anyone in Camp Hillary could be scared.

They've seen this movie in 2008. It wasn't supposed to happen again. But here we are, Hillary's insurmountable lead being surmounted. Chip by fucking chip. It's beautiful and team Hillary should be worried.

[SonderWoman]

20. She should absolutely not be worried.

[morningfog]

25. She's right where she wants and expected to be, lol.

All according to her plan.

[Fawke Em]

32. I'd be worried if I were her.

[still_one]

12. yup, from a Ring of Fire a site run by Mike Papantonio, a Bernie cheerleader. Nothing is wrong with

that, but one should not be surprised to find a bias against Hillary from him, and being vague and anonymous, is about as good as the fox news tactic of, "some people have said ..."

[oasis]

21. They're grasping at straws. Hill's peeps will keep the dough flowing

all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

[R B Garr]

22. Yes, and apparently appealing to Republicans is now a good thing if it's a

Bernie talking point. Amazing.

[frylock]

6. Team Clinton unleashing the Big Dawg is likely a result of donors being scared.

[virtualobserver]

11. the last time they let the Big Dawg off his leash, he got a hold of a Dawg Whistle

[still_one]

7. So who are these "donors" that are getting scared?

[MohRokTah]

8. Ring of Fire has no credibility.

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RFK Jr.????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

[Metric System]

10. Co-signed.

[still_one]

13. Mike Papantonio also carries water for Bernie, which is fine, but as you said there is a definite

bias

[MohRokTah]

14. Papantonio suffers the idiocy of RFK Jr.

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I can't respect anybody who would put up with that level of bullshit. He is tainted by his close association.

[still_one]

15. The anti vaxer, nonsense is astonding

[artislife]

18. I still would love to know

What is an acceptable news source for H news from the H supporters stand point. It may be ever changing....

[MohRokTah]

19. Ring of Fire is NOT a news source.

It is an extremist Conspiracy Theorist group of nutters.

[artislife]

23. Might be a smaller list if you just let me know who I can quote...

[Armstead]

35. Basically, just Clinton Campaign Press Releases, it seems

[ms liberty]

27. JFK Jr has been dead for nearly 20 years. .

How and why is Papp carrying his water?

[MohRokTah]

29. Sorry, RFK Jr. em

[brooklynite]

16. I'm not...

still don't see Bernie with infrastructure for beyond NH

[magical thyme]

30. just because you, personally, don't see it doesn't mean it's not there

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/politics/bernie-sanders-iowa/

CNN's Suzanne Malveaux caught up with Sanders following his headquarters opening in Ottumwa, Iowa. In an office filled with "Bernie" t-shirts, posters, yard signs, and some "Cats for Bernie" pins, he acknowledged that his support during what's been dubbed the "summer of discontent" has outpaced his political infrastructure.

"So what we are doing now is hiring on people. We have now dozens of people on the ground here in Iowa. Great crowds are wonderful, but that does not necessarily translate into votes. People need to be organized and know how to come out and participate in the caucuses," Sanders said.

Sanders said his campaign is not only hiring in Iowa, but also in New Hampshire and elsewhere, creating an organization structure to handle volunteers.

"We're doing it all over this country. Creating a political infrastructure with organizers, with volunteers, to make sure that supporters come out and vote. And that's how I think we're going to win this thing. We will be outspent -- let me just say this -- I know we will be outspent by our opponents. We don't have a Super PAC. We're dependent on small, individual contributors. But I think the grassroots movement that you saw out there -- that's what's going to win it for us."

[brooklynite]

31. That's exactly my point...

...South Carolina and eventually super-Tuesday (10 States nationwide) require a scale of professional staff that I don't think his financial resources can accomodate.

Consider the following:

Iowa caucus turnout: 277,000
NH Primary turnout: 283,000
South Carolina turnout: 530,000
Texas (ONE of TEN Super Tuesday States): 2,800,000

See the difference?

[customerserviceguy]

17. Don't forget

the drip, drip, drip, of the email server thing. Who knows what's going to come out next, now that we hear that the server was not 'wiped', but merely had it's emails 'deleted', and thus recoverable?

A Hillary donor has to really be more than a bit concerned right now.

[DCBob]

28. I am confused by the server wiping issue.

Where did that story originate if there is no truth to it? In some ways this could be good for Hillary if it wasn't wiped then she has nothing to hide.

[customerserviceguy]

33. Some folks confuse

wiping with deleting. I think that may have happened here.

It seems that most, if not all, emails that were deleted will be able to be restored in their entirety. I know I wouldn't want a GOP House committee going through practically all of my emails for the past several years!

There may be one or two things that are held up as "smoking guns" from the work being done on the server. They may possibly be explained away, but until this is done in a satisfactory manner, it may continue to erode Hillary's poll numbers. I figure a donor has to have something like that rolling around through their heads these days.

If such a smoking gun were to come out very shortly, I'd expect Joe Biden to jump in right away. The party bosses don't want to see Bernie get the nomination.

[DCBob]

38. Yep, that is how I see it also.

Once she gets cleared of this mess and no laws were broken I am sure her numbers will go back up.

[olddots]

24. debates are not good marketing tools for products

that have packaging that is better than the product .

[DCBob]

26. I doubt this.

For sure there is some concern but this is not 2008. Hillary is in a much stronger position now... and most held on back then until the bitter end. The Bernie phenom will pass once the primaries move past NH.

[morningfog]

34. You mean past NH and Iowa?

Don't draw that line in the sand too heavy.

[DCBob]

37. I think NH follows Iowa.. right?

[morningfog]

39. You are correct, my mistake.

[reformist2]

36. Her only option is for her surrogates to tear Bernie down.