With labor endorsement beginning to come in, people should be aware

[MineralMan]

that comments on union Facebook pages may not actually be from members of those unions. Unless someone has posted their local number with their comment, don't assume that a comment comes from a member. It could have been posted by anyone.

For example, the UA pipefitters union endorsed Hillary Clinton, but their Facebook page is full of comments that appear to oppose that. However, I was able to post a comment, myself, and I'm not a member. In fact, any Facebook member can post on that union's Facebook page.

That means that the comments there may well not reflect the views of members of that union, one way or another.

It's important to pay attention to such things. Really it is.

ETA: Here's the Facebook page in question:

https://www.facebook.com/UnitedAssociation?rf=102166969824808

[SouthernProgressive]

1. Common sense.

Been seeing a lot of anger directed at unions from Sanders supporters over the last couple of months. They seem to be in strong opposition to the concept of a representative democracy in all aspects. It's something that just drives them up a wall. I believe it is a cornerstone of unions and can't get angry over it for the life of me.

[MineralMan]

2. Yes, but many look at a page like that and assume that

every comment is coming from a union member. In reality, probably only a minority of comments are from union members. The rest are people with a goal of some kind. I posted something to that effect in both threads regarding the endorsement. Too many people don't think about who wrote comments on a Facebook page. In this case, it could be anyone, or even an organized effort to post comments.

[SouthernProgressive]

9. Absolutely correct on your part. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. nt.

[99Forever]

3. No irony deficiency on this thread.

[MineralMan]

4. There is no irony.

That is an open Facebook page. Anyone can comment on it. People should be aware of that.

[99Forever]

6. You keep telling yourself that....

...."mr Sanders Supporter."

[MineralMan]

8. I don't need to tell myself anything.

And I'm no longer a Sanders supporter. My support is for Hillary Clinton at this time. That has nothing whatever to do with whether or not a union's Facebook page is open for comments from any Facebook member. It's an important distinction when it comes to judging what is posted on a Facebook page.

For example, you cannot post on my Facebook page, but you can post on the UA Union's page. It's a matter of permission levels and only a matter of that. Anyone who posts on my Facebook page is on my Friends list. On the UA page, anyone on Facebook can post, not just members of that union. So, nothing can be drawn from comments posted on that page, since anyone can comment.

Simple. Facts. I'd post the same if they had endorsed Bernie Sanders and people were commenting and discussing comments on that Facebook page. It's important for people to know.

You can roll on the floor all you like, but you'll need to wash your shirt later. The floor's dirty, you know.

[99Forever]

13. Well..

....I'll have to give you that when it comes to presenting oneself as something one isn't, you have much better knowledge of how it's done.

[whatchamacallit]

7. And what exactly did you post there?

Hmm?

[MineralMan]

11. I posted that comments on that page are open to all

Facebook members and suggested that UA members include their local number. That was my comment. I didn't comment on the endorsement, because I'm not a member of that union. Go look. You'll find it easy to identify my comment, because that's what it says. You already know my real life name anyhow, and I don't care who knows it. It's incredibly easy to find.

[whatchamacallit]

12. Fair enough

[PATRICK]

5. The Postal Unions

are exceptionally grateful to Sanders for his leadership on restoring crippling service cuts and stopping the dismantling of the Postal Service. And much more aggressive with fewer delusions about the intent of GOP, Blue Dogs or their stooges on the oversight commissions and Board of Governors.

As for endorsement as far as these unions go, I personally as a union member, think of the Sanders endorsement as also kicking the rest of the presumptive POTUSes in the butt on the whole issue. Not just employees but the entire nation has been immorally victimized by malicious government oversight with a goal of raping the public commons and devastating service to the nation. Something of course corporate news doesn't get too upset about.

[MineralMan]

10. Have they endorsed anyone? This post is about

unions that have issued endorsements and their Facebook pages. I have no idea whether the union you mention will endorse one or the other candidate. Let me know when they do.

[PATRICK]

14. www.apwu.org

See the Letter from the union president about the 2016 elections will pretty much tell you he is on board with everything about Sanders and pretty dissatisfied with both parties. Not an endorsement, but feeling out the membership at this stage.
I don't know where to beginning quoting it. It should be read in full.

[link:http://www.apwu.org/news/deptdiv-news-article/2016-presidential-election-my-thoughts-how-about-yours-0|