A Pro-Clinton Super PAC Is Going Negative On Bernie Sanders

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The group links Sanders to Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and the United Kingdom's new Labour Party leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

WASHINGTON -- A super PAC backing Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is going negative, circulating an email that yokes her chief rival Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to some of the more controversial remarks made by Jeremy Corbyn, the United Kingdom's new Labour Party leader, including his praise for the late Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan leader who provided discounted fuel to Vermont in a deal supported by Sanders.

Clinton's camp has long said it has no plans to attack Sanders. But the super PAC, called Correct the Record, departed from its defense of Clinton's record as a former secretary of state in an email Monday that compares Sanders with Corbyn. Correct the Record, led by Clinton ally David Brock, also has sent trackers after Sanders and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-jeremy-corbyn_55f73339e4b00e2cd5e79e11

[beam me up scottie]

1. Predictable.

The swift boating begins.

[Duckhunter935]

2. Not surprising

Hillary has to stop him and her normal procedure is to use her proxies to attack.

[MissDeeds]

30. It's only the beginning

Hopefully, Bernie anticipated this and knows how to handle it.

[Motown_Johnny]

3. My real problem with this is that she is again exploiting a loophole in a law

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and nobody seems to be batting an eye over it.


Is this really the kind of person who we want as President?

Even the GOP have not tried exploiting this so called "internet exemption" just to set up a slime machine, but no doubt they will now.

The fact that she, and her campaign, have set this up speaks to her character. It is exactly the kind of stupid, short sighted choice that led her to setting up her own email server. Yes it is allowed. No it is not a good idea.

In my opinion, this is an excellent example of why I don't want her to be our nominee. I will vote against any (R) running against her if she is the nominee, but that is the very best I can do. I don't want a President who thinks laws are there to be gotten around. She really is a terrible candidate.

[GoneFishin]

6. I don't want someone like this for President. This is Republican behavior. Bernie is an easy choice

to make, and I think it is clear that choice will become easier and easier as his numbers rise.

"Setting the record Straight", right out of the Republican playbook. "Clear Skies initiative", "No child left behind".

[morningfog]

10. It's against the law, IMO. It just hasn't been litigated yet.

It's an "open question" as to whether this coordination is legal. Since it hasn't been challenged in court, it is "legal" until the courts review it.

This is who she is. Exploitative and quasi-legal. Anything to access power. That is the bottom line.

[arcane1]

51. And we're supposed to believe she'll "reform campaign finance" as president n/t

[Capn Sunshine]

57. Brock's PAC does not take orders from Hillary

He knows the rules. He's been around the block. He used to work for the Sciafe Foundations , the predecessors to the Kochs.

His assignment was to write a scandal laden Hillary book. The more he researched her, the more he liked what he saw.

He wrote "Blinded by the Right" instead, and excellent book and his coming out piece.

[PoliticAverse]

59. Actually this PAC has asserted its right to coordinate with the Clinton campaign...

The following Washington Post article may cast some sunshine on the issue...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

[Capn Sunshine]

65. I did not know this.

This is true if they remain a blog only. David Brock is one slippery character. Last winter in an informal setting he was making noise to this effect, I thought this was stupid. I guess they can buy commercials via another PAC but that's a slippery slope.

[PoliticAverse]

66. As others have pointed out, the FEC isn't apparently cracking down on any of this anyway. n/t

[mhatrw]

4. LOL. Well, there goes the top 1% Venezuelan vote! n/t

[reformist2]

5. If they saved their SuperPac money to attack Repugs, they might have a leg to stand on.

But a candidate can't seriously oppose Citizens United and then use Super Pac campaign money like this to attack friends. I can't wait for Hillary to absolve herself, shrugging her shoulders and saying she has no control over what they do with their money.

[daleanime]

26. Yeahup.....

and we need to be aware of how they compete also.

[99Forever]

31. IOKIHDI*

*(It's ok if Hilary does it)

[hifiguy]

50. OH, yeah.

The stench of hypocrisy could, in the words of George Carlin, knock a buzzard off a shit wagon.

[Vinca]

7. Big mistake.

Bernie will not go negative and it will make him appear superior to Clinton. I guess this is a hazard of having a super PAC that you supposedly don't control. If she was smart she'd denounce it before it begins.

[morningfog]

9. But she does control/coordinate with this one.

Hillary's camp said that since the PAC is solely online, not in print, tv, radio that they can coordinate without violating the law.

This is is all Hillary. She's going negative and using big soft money to do it.

[frylock]

45. But if you elect her, then she'll do away with all that big soft money..

also, the check is in the mail.

[arcane1]

52. "I promise to do away with these laws once I no longer need them to advance my career"

I don't buy it.

[frylock]

55. No person with a functioning brain cell is buying that shit sandwich.

[morningfog]

56. During her second term, of course.

LOL

[Duckhunter935]

28. They are in direct coordination

Please read up on this and do not push that false narrative.

[Vinca]

42. I'm not intentionally pushing a false narrative.

I thought this kind of PAC was a separate entity.

[Duckhunter935]

43. No issues

[PoliticAverse]

60. This PAC has asserted they have a right to coordinate with the Clinton campaign...

See the following Washington Post article for details...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

[morningfog]

8. Correct the Record is the PAC that Hillary's Camp coordinates with.

This is Hillary going negative, not simply a SuperPAC.

This will backfire on her.

[PDittie]

11. Found this on FB

Tommy Christopher also wrote for Mediaite.

http://thedailybanter.com/2015/09/bernie-sanders-ridiculous-charge-against-obama/

This is an obvious ploy to turn off whatever nascent African American support Bernie may be coalescing. It's somewhat in line with the ad hominem against Dr. West, and "red-baiting" of comparisons to Labour's new leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

We're seeing a full court press by Clintonites, as they are finally taking his ascent seriously.

[mmonk]

18. Then you should be fine with Rove's.

BTW, accuracy has little to nothing to do with politics.

[mmonk]

39. Yes. Through unsubstantiated inference they would agree on everything.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

22. I can see why you named yourself after toilet paper.

I'm sure you're smart enough to know that ripping any statement out of context can allow you to give a misleading impression without technically 'lying'.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. Accuracy is a term of art, no?

Where I live, negative ads can sink a prospering campaign. Negative ads can turn voters off of a candidate they formerly supported. Savvy voters see such ads as condescending, the toxin is not so much in the way the opponent is spoken of but in the way the voter is spoken to.
That is also the case on DU with negative posts, which on DU come from all sides. I see negative posts about candidates I do not like and they often make me like the poster even less than the candidate they are attacking.

[jeff47]

36. You should actually read a post before replying to it.

That way, your reply won't look that dumb.

[retrowire]

14. lolololol

try harder Hillary. lmao

we the people aren't as stupid as you think and we won't be scared into making decisions anymore.

sorry that we gen x and gen y'ers are a proven skeptical and analytical demographic. we don't really take things like this at face value. nor do we like being told what to think and feel.

so yeah, your old hat ways are just that, the old ways. goodbye.

[Javaman]

17. that's all they got?

that's pretty pathetic.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

20. In time for Halloween! The sccaaaaarrry socialist!

Boo!

[cantbeserious]

21. So Flying Above It All Has Become Low Level Targeting - Shades Of 2008

eom

[AgingAmerican]

38. This is what GW Bush did

Stayed, 'above the fray' while his surrogates bottom fed

[azurnoir]

23. one of Hillary's super PACs is trying to tie Bernie Sanders to a reputed anti-semite?

wow between the claims gun humpin' racism and racist supporters and now association with antisemitic politicians, I can't remember a campaign run with this degree of 'class' since oh 2008 or so

Why Jeremy Corbyn Scares British Jews So Much

Read more: http://forward.com/news/320934/why-jeremy-corbyn-scares-so-many-british-jews/#ixzz3lo9pcVAD

[U of M Dem]

24. If it were the other way around this is where HRC supporters

would be chanting 'RW talking points,' until their faces turned blue.

I really don't mind making the observation that the Corbyn campaign has similarity to Bernie's, after all Corbyn did win his campaign...

[frylock]

46. BASH BASH BASH Hillary, BASH BASH BASH..

How many times do you suppose we'd see that subject line?

[U of M Dem]

61. All that bashing must be the sound of

your forehead as you slam it against your keyboard thinking of a rebuttal. I guess you came up short on this one.

[frylock]

62. ummmmmm....

[turbinetree]

25. Grasping for straws ..............................

when it is suppose to be about the ISSUES.


This is pathetic and she is not saying one word----------------why?
The Third Way mentality DLC agenda, is in my opinion coming home to roost-----------------------


Honk-------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

Proud supporter of a DEMOCRATIC----SOCIALIST

[FloridaBlues]

27. This is baby food compared to what republicans will do to sanders

[frylock]

47. Republicans ARE doing it to Sanders..

Do you know who David Brock is?

[arcane1]

54. Does that justify right-wing attacks?

[99Forever]

29. This same kind of shit sunk Clinton in '08.

History repeats itself. Camp Weathervane has learned nothing and remains forever tone deaf.

Dirty politicians campaign dirty.

[djean111]

33. Dirty politicians campaign dirty - all that needs to be said and counted on and guarded against.

Won't be voting for that.

[Hollingsworth]

34. Filth like 2008

I can't support someone like that and have a hard time understanding how anyone could dismiss these kinds of tactics.

[restorefreedom]

35. wow this is a shock

not.

[jeff47]

37. Keep in mind this is the SuperPAC that is directly coordinating with her campaign

The FEC can't rule on the technicalities that the Clinton team are exploiting, since Republicans block the FEC from doing anything.

[Xyzse]

40. Not surprising. However...

Please note, PACs by definition do not coordinate with the candidate and some tend to do activities that the one running would rather not happen.

It is a shame that they are going negative when I feel all the Democratic candidates are lightyears ahead of the current Republican crop.

[Duckhunter935]

41. This one is in direct coordination

And proud of it. They advertise that fact.

[Xyzse]

44. Really? I thought that was illegal by the rules.

Odd.

Particularly as it says in the article that it departed from Clinton.
Perhaps I must be reading it wrong?

[PoliticAverse]

53. You may find this Washington Post article on this PAC and the coordination issue interesting...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

[Xyzse]

58. What? That's just...

Seriously? Hrm... I don't know what to think about this.
I am fully against such a thing by virtue of of how skeevy that is.
..

I think I need a moment or two.

[frylock]

48. I am shocked and appalled that Team Clinton is attacking Sanders from the right..

and yeah, folks over in the HRC group, THIS is what an attack looks like. Fuckin own it.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

49. I'm one of millions who have Bernie's back

And I'll never forget this shit, or the filthy people who perpetrated it.

[JoePhilly]

64. So Hillary should coordinate with a Super PAC??

Isn't that illegal.

If she did coordinate with a super PAC, some of you would demand she be arrested.

[morningfog]

67. She is coordinating with the SuperPAC. And it probably is illegal.

[PoliticAverse]

68. This PAC has asserted they have a right to coordinate with the Clinton campaign...

See the following Washington Post article for details...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/