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N.H.'s Largest Teachers Union Backs Clinton For President
http://nhpr.org/post/nhs-largest-teachers-union-backs-clinton-president
By Michael Brindley Sep 14, 2015
Hillary Clinton at a rally in Hopkinton.
..........The state chapter of the National Education Association announced its endorsement of the former Secretary of State this morning.
NEA-NH President Scott McGilvray calls Clinton a "tireless fighter for both students and educators."
The endorsement comes with the support of the unions more than 16,000 members in the first-in-the-nation primary state..........
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"The new poll finds Sen. Sanders with 52% support among Democratic primary voters in New Hampshire,
while former Secretary of State Clinton ... receives 30%"
https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/09/13/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-cbs-battleground-poll/
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"the teachers union" leaders
The voters disagree.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)belong to unions in my jobs and unfortunately, that was one of them.
elleng
(130,895 posts)with no personal experience. Guess I'm glad my impressions have been correct.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Continuing to throw their support behind the least labor-friendly candidate.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)The teacher unions are very militant in looking for the candidates who support children and public education. I always listen to what the teacher unions say as they are very well informed about their core interests. If the NEA-NH is backing HRC, you should listen to their reasoning. These people know what they are talking about. I know a lot of activists in teacher unions and they are some of the smartest people around.
Please do not let all the negative propaganda from the right wingers color your opinions. HRC scares the tar out of the right wingers, which is why they spew so much negative propaganda against HRC. Let's not fall for their nonsense.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Because they've bought into the inevitability argument like many others and they don't want to suffer her payback should she win. I've never seen Hillary disavow charter schools or the corporate education reforms being touted by many Democrats (no I'm not talking about Common Core). Perhaps you could point me to some instances where she has stated that charter schools are a direct threat to public education and teachers unions? Cause I haven't seen them.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Hillary Clinton has a great history of supporting public education which supports democracy.
Thanks for posting!
This is quite a coup for Hillary.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)What's her position on charter schools?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)She has fought back against damaging voucher programs and counterproductive standards that harm schools instead of help them.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)What does even mean? That come out of some focus group for saying something without saying anything?
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)School vouchers allow public tax dollars to be taken from public education for all children and spend those dollars on private and parochial schools which often promote racist, classist, homophobic and sexist ideas. Vouchers are very damaging to public education.
Hillary Clinton has a decades long record of fighting against voucher programs, both in Arkansas and nationally, as FLOTUS and as a Senator.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)The people most knowledgeable about both candidates education positions are more impressed with Hillary Clinton's history and current answers to their questions than they are Bernie Sanders.
Both Sanders and Clinton have backed charter schools in the past. At one time many people thought charter schools were a way to bring innovation to public education. Of course, we know now the charter school movement has been used to steal public tax dollars from children to the benefit of a few wealthy individuals.
I sincerely hope HRC backs away publicly from charter schools in the near future. I would also hope BS will repudiate the charter school movement publicly, as well.
Sanders and Clinton have very similar records regarding public education from their records in the Senate. Since the NEA-NH has endorsed HRC, she has told them something to move her ahead of BS in their minds. The endorsement was extremely positive toward HRC. You should take the time to read it.
Do you have any new information that BS has disavowed charter schools?
riversedge
(70,204 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Since the threads about her. Has she publicly disavowed charter schools? Trust me I will do my best to be sure Bernie answers for it if he hasn't or doesnt.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)Tweet
SMACKDOWN
Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton 16h16 hours ago
Unions help keep working families strong. Scott Walker's attacks on unions and workers' rights aren't leadershipthey're bullying. -H
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Scott Walker and John Kasich are two peas in a pod. Kasich's handlers just keep him away from people more so he cannot be filmed saying horrid things. Kasich is even scarier and meaner than Walker, it has just been hidden better, as there is no real news media in Ohio.
Take a look at these articles about the charter school scandals in Ohio. Kasich is sending billions of dollars into the hands of GOP donors. It is truly pay to play in Ohio. Our public school children are being robbed of their futures by these crooks and Kasich is their hand maiden.
http://www.plunderbund.com/2015/09/13/ohio-dems-call-for-independent-investigation-of-john-kasichs-chartergate-scandal/
"Dubbed Chartergate, its the scandal waiting to crack open and spill all over the governors just pressed, positive-vision campaign for president. Its the scandal Mr. Kasich has so far avoided answering questions about. Its the scandal that involves actions taken by David Hansen, the governors school choice chief at the Ohio Department of Education, who illegally altered data on an official state report in order to improve the rankings of some large charter school sponsors and operators."
Hansen is the husband of Kasich's chief of staff.
http://www.plunderbund.com/2015/09/12/kasichs-disgraced-school-choice-chief-was-recently-in-charge-of-ohio-voter-registration-records/
"Hansen already had a history of altering data when he was hired by Kasichs education department. While at the Buckeye Institute, Hansen was caught intentionally altering data in a report to favor many of the same charter schools. Similarly, large charter school operators, like White Hats David Brennan, were funding Hansens research."
"According to Ben Piscitelli, spokesman for the Franklin County Board of Elections, Hansen worked for the BOE on two previous occasions. Hansen was hired in 2009 as manager of administrative services in our fiscal department and would have been responsible for ordering office supplies and scheduling maintenance of office equipment, wrote Piscitelli in a recent email response to PB Reporter John Spinelli. He returned to the board of elections as supervisor of voter services in 2013 and help managed full and part time employees responsible for maintaining voter registration records."
Many state employees will confirm privately that there is a reign of terror in the state departments. Anyone who says anything out of line with Kasich will be immediately fired or worse. People are terrified for their jobs and their futures. Kasich is slowly but surely selling Ohio's public resources to private individuals for their personal profit at the expense of the public. Kasich is not a moderate despite the lies in the media claiming he is.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)workers all the time. Lets hope so.
marlakay
(11,457 posts)I don't think it has backed anyone yet, Bart in SF. But if they send out a ton of info on who ever and I don't like the person I laugh and chuck it.
I wonder if anyone votes just because they are told to...
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)But overall, I think you are right. I think the membership for the most part already knows who they support. Areas where it is huge are in fundraising, enthusiasm, advertising, and get out the vote. These endorsements are not insignificant by any means. All of these things lead to GOTV, not necessarily telling their membership how to vote expecting them to follow. It has a broader societal effect.
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Groups with a lot of influence. They are in the know. Her list of endorsements is amazingly impressive.
ancianita
(36,051 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)....the People of NH overwhelmingly support Senator Sanders.
More tone deaf establishment toadies.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)The establishment does NOT listen to the people and we've had enough! All these endorsements do is strengthen our fight. Shaheen has already planted herself on the opposite side of NH Dems. We'll see how that works for her next election.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)You make lots of noise but very little sense.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)And I'm seeing more and more bumper stickers every day.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Brock Kentman
(48 posts)As a matter of fact, it does EXACTLY the opposite - increases Bernie's lead so far that NH and IA will be written off officially by Clinton campaign.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)Status quo endorses Status quo .
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Bill got union endorsements.
He threw unions under the bus immediately.
Obama got union endorsements.
He threw unions under the bus almost immediately and the teachers' unions got Arne "Charter Schools Uber Alles" Duncan in the bargain.
These people stupid or something?