LOL, now a Democrat wanting to increase spending is BAD thing???? You Hillary supporters........

[Logical]

crack me up!

The shit Bernie wants is unbelievable. Damn him!!!!

universal health-care system. Tens of billions more would be spent on infrastructure, a Social Security expansion and free tuition at public colleges

I understand the hillary supporters being nervous but slamming spending on these items is idiotic!

[ibegurpard]

1. some of them are claiming

That government is bad at everything...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. They do that.......and then they sound like Republicans. n/t

[ibegurpard]

8. Yeah you'll find some real interesting Hillary supporter

Opinions right here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=595479

The thing is I'm not turned off of Hillary by this... I've always thought she felt similarly which is why I've never supported her.

[Logical]

3. Maybe the are projecting Hillary as president. nt

[Hollingsworth]

12. It feels like Bernie is fighting the republicans in this primary.

What is going on?

[Hydra]

13. Too many years of third way nonsense

They really thought they remade the party in their image.

[AgingAmerican]

22. The Democratic party has taken up positions previously held by the Republicans.

Almost every problem in this country was caused by right wing policies. Why would the Democratic party move to the right? Nothing good has EVER come from the right. It defies rationale.

[Hydra]

23. I've made that point over and over again, but it gets ignored

President Obama used to talk about "Good ideas" the Grand Ol' Perverts had.



I don't think they've had 1 policy in since the Reagan Revolution/Coup that worked for anyone other than the 1%.

[CharlotteVale]

4. Surreal!

[sabrina 1]

5. I'm disappointed Bernie doesn't want to spend MORE on the American people, but

I'll take what he is proposing and hopefully in the future that will increase as we stop spending TRILLIONS on MIC enriching Defense Contractors and taking from the most vulnerable Americans.

Are you sure Dems are objecting to this? I KNOW Repubs will have a fit over money going to the PEOPLE, but I've never HEARD of a Dem wanting to spend Trillions on Bailing out Wall St and/or on WAR while objecting to investing in the People.

Admittedly I haven't caught up to this story yet.

[Blus4u]

27. The Pig Trough that is defense spending needs to be drawn and quartered!

Corporate welfare needs to be ended. And the uber wealthy need to pay their fair share of taxes.
Then spending on the country's real needs will be possible and more palatable.

Peace

[sabrina 1]

28. Yes, and that's exactly what Bernie is proposing. Which is why so many

people are signing up for his campaign.

[RiverLover]

6. Centrist Dogma since the 90s has lulled them into thinking like rethugs.

And they don't even realize it.

[Logical]

7. +1000 nt

[ibegurpard]

10. I don't think so

They've been driven out of the Republican party by the bible thumpers and have been trying to turn the Democratic Party into the party for Rockefeller Republicans.

[RiverLover]

11. That may explain it, for the party leaders anyways.

I'd never actually wondered why they infiltrated Democrats beyond big business controlling both parties, but what you say makes perfect sense!!!

[sabrina 1]

29. That is definitely part of it. The Third Way represents that faction of the electorate

and unfortunately has gained control of OUR Party temporarily.

[arcane1]

9. We're seeing the "Center" once again getting nudged ever rightward.

I don't think I've ever witnessed it in real time though.

[Doctor_J]

14. They are republicans. one of them posted a couple weeks ago about the continued war

in the middle east, "we have to fight them over there instead of here". Revolting, yet unsurprising.

[Juicy_Bellows]

16. Bingo! Nt.

[bunnies]

25. Couldnt agree more.

Well said.

[sabrina 1]

30. But there's trouble brewing for the warmongers and bankers and all those who

have been controlling things for so long. There'a another P party, the People themselves who have suffered for so long under the oppressive policies of the Rich and Powerful. THEY will determine whether or not they get to continue their theft of this country's resources.

And they are no longer looking at party labels, it worked for so long but we are now seeing people from across the political spectrum joining together to end the corruption that has taken hold of our government.

Elizabeth Warren put it right 'the system is rigged'. Nothing can be accomplished as even Biden acknowledged recently, until it is unrigged. And that has to start by removing the bribe money they use to buy our government.

Making that for many people, the #1 issue in this campaign.

We know they will work overtime to STOP the people from taking control of their government, they will be as brutal as possible.

The people will have to keep on exposing them when they do so, not be lulled into apathy again and stand up and fight them hard, this time.

Or things will only get worse. I think people feel this now, and are willing to fight them. But it will take millions and millions of people uniting against a system that works only for the top 1%

[ancianita]

17. Yep. It's a corporate austerity economic talking point. More old and tired than Trump's hair.

[reformist2]

18. Hillary would rather talk about growth than government spending. Same old, same old.

She doesn't want to redistribute the pie, she wants the pie to get bigger for everyone! Which tacitly means she wants the rich to get even richer. She'll never say it, but what she's offering is a warmed-over version of trickle-down economics.

[MisterP]

19. their ideal country is 90s Russia: the ambulances take 9 hours to arrive because they've been

privatized into taxis, the infrastructure is rotting and the playgrounds are torn up to sell any remaining metal, but what's important is that the oligarchs own everything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Sachs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Cross

[Spitfire of ATJ]

20. I keep telling everyone that Hillary intends to purge Liberals from the party....

People don't want to listen though.

They're so used to hearing her called a Liberal by the media.

[ellisonz]

21. Until I see a way to pay for of all of it, it's just talk.

How does Bernie plan to pay for all of this new spending?

From what I can see with a graduate degree in public policy, the money is not there to do what he wants.

Frankly, I don't believe much from politicians about what they will do unless I can see how they will get it done.

That's business.

[LondonReign2]

24. Third Wayers decrying taxes, claiming the government is terribel at running things, and demanding

deficit reduction. Straight out of the mouths of Hannity and Limbaugh. And these people support Clinton and claim to be Democrats.

[Fred Sanders]

26. The whole premise of the opinion is a strawman.....have fun knocking it down, guys!

Who needs smears on Clinton from the RW when there is plenty enough from the LW?

Helping no one but the RW. Lots of fun, though, this bashing without evidence...and so easy to do also.

Fire away denying the obvious....it makes for fun times for all to see.