BREAKING: FBI RECOVERS HILLARY'S DELETED EMAILS

[Halliburton]

A review by Clinton and her aides determined that about half of the 60,000 e-mails she exchanged during her four-year tenure as secretary of state were of a personal nature, the presidential candidate has said.

Those e-mails, she said, mostly dealt with planning for Chelsea’s wedding, yoga routines and condolence messages.
Clinton said the personal e-mails were deleted from the server and her staff turned over paper copies of the remaining work-related e-mails in December to the State Department for processing and archiving. The FBI obtained Clinton’s server from the Colorado-based company managing it.

Outside computer specialists have said the FBI has the technical capability to recover deleted e-mails. The exact number of personal e-mails recovered by the FBI could not be learned.

Once the e-mails have been extracted, a group of agents has been separating personal correspondence and passing along work-related messages to agents leading the investigation, the person said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-09-22/fbi-said-to-recover-personal-e-mails-from-hillary-clinton-server

I guess the FBI will determine just how personal half of her emails were

[leftofcool]

1. BHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Logical]

42. Let's see how long this is funny to you in about a month! Nt

[leftofcool]

57. It will still be funny I assure you.

What is even more funny is that people who actually call themselves Democrats have fallen right in line with KKK Rove and other idiots of his ilk.

[Logical]

108. It is a bad deal that will turn worse, true or not, how you think it is funny is sick. Nt

[Fawke Em]

2. My company does this sort of work all the time.

It's really very routine, now, and I never understood why the FBI was having such a hard time with it.

That said, the key sentence is this:

Once the e-mails have been extracted, a group of agents has been separating personal correspondence and passing along work-related messages to agents leading the investigation, the person said.

Clinton has maintained that the only emails she got rid of were of a personal nature, correct? If so, then why are agents separating work-related messages from wedding plans and condolence messages?

[jwirr]

5. I read that also. So some of them were work related.

[leveymg]

15. So she attempted to withhold those work related email.

With the determination that her personal server transmitted classified information this is now firmly within the realm of the criminal. Play taps for her campaign.

[karynnj]

33. Not necessarily - the emails may be ALL the emails including those sent to the State Department

In that case, the FBI's analysis could end up similar to what her lawyer did. The biggest problem is the set of things that really should be labeled "work" that weren't. We know there are some because the State Department did not have all the Blumenthal ones. With 60,000 emails, a small number misclassified might be expected -- but it will lead to accusations.

This is a self inflicted wound that doesn't look like it is ending.

That said - the question is how accurate this source is.

[jwirr]

36. One of the posters stated that this was merely a description

of how they were going to deal with them. I guess we are just going to have to wait and see what happens. I know one thing. The personal server was a mistake no matter what is on it.

[delrem]

54. A mistake. It was solely her personal decision.

She said she's a person of zero tech expertise, can't handle two phones so can't handle two accounts kind of zero. Yet she enacted this purely personal decision, to operate a private server from her private property to conduct government business, on the day before starting work.

And some people wonder why the distrust.

Sigh.

[leveymg]

61. If the FBI determines that the "private" (erased) email contains gov't info, her campaign is toast.

If it contains presumed classified information, she could be indicted for a felony. 18 USC Sec. 793 (e) and (f).

[jwirr]

109. Exactly.

[Tommy2Tone]

6. You do know these stories do nothing for Bernie?

Bernie is toast so finding another "fake story" about Hillary won't make him more electable.

[Fawke Em]

11. You do know I don't give a flying flip about your opinion, don't you?

I work in IT security. It's not a "fake story" to those of us with industry experience who think her decision-making skills here were lacking, regardless of the legality of the issue (I've never said it was illegal).

However, if - and the wording in the story is confusing (see my comment below) - the agents are finding work-related emails, then it's also a matter of her lying.

[Tommy2Tone]

23. Fair enough

Your response is what I have come to expect from Bernie fans. He deserves better supporters.

[Fawke Em]

25. You mean defending myself from your jab?

But, Hillary deserves her supporters.

[Live and Learn]

52. LOL Yep, they deserve each other. nt

[jkbRN]

115. My boyfriend also works in IT

doing network secerurity--he said the same thing.

[monmouth4]

13. For a guy who's "toast" he sure does have quite the following....LOL....n/t

[merrily]

63. Deflect much? Yours is the first post on the thread that has nothing to do with the OP,

And accusing Fawke Em of lying is bullshit.

[winter is coming]

10. They could be "work-related" along the lines of "can we bump up Friday's meeting to Thursday?"

Not exactly the sort of thing I'd hang on to, after the meeting had taken place.

The irony of all of this is that I think she wanted the private server to forestall emails from her SoS tenure being used against her in a future run for office. All she did was make things worse.

[Fawke Em]

16. You may be right about that.

And that's the point I was making regarding her decision-making skills.

I'll leave the legality of using the server up to the lawyers - I am under the impression that when she used the private server, it wasn't illegal, but the question is whether she was grandfathered in is up for grabs.

Her secretive nature is not something I relish in a public servant.

[magical thyme]

18. if *all* the emails were deleted, then all were restored, in which case they need to sort through

them.

However, it is already known that she didn't include 15 emails to/from Sidney Blumenthal that were work-related and were discovered when Blumenthal turned them over.

So regardless of whether all were destroyed or only those she deemed "personal," they will still need to go through all of them to see what others were "missed" in her dept. review.

[magical thyme]

24. although the server company said *they* never wiped the computer, her lawyer

David Kendall said it had been wiped, and he reiterated that statement later on. If he was the last person in possession of the computer, it is possible he had it wiped.

[antigop]

32. it depends upon the definition of "work-related". :-) nt

[moobu2]

44. That doesnt mean what you hoped it did

Hillary "said the personal e-mails were deleted from the server and her staff turned over paper copies of the remaining work-related e-mails in December to the State Department for processing and archiving."

Hillary said she deleted personal emails and that was perfectly allowable, then Hillary said her staff turned over paper copies of the remaining work related emails to the Stat Department.

So, the FBI might find some work related emails on Hillary's server that were previously produced in a hard copy paper form and given to the State Department.

It's nothing, absolutely nothing at all.

[Lychee2]

47. It might.

From the article:

Once the e-mails have been extracted, a group of agents has been separating personal correspondence and passing along work-related messages to agents leading the investigation, the person said.

The FBI is going through the other half of the stuff on her server--the part that she did not produce in paper copies. The part that she claimed to be "personal." And they are finding work related emails there.

[moobu2]

60. Wrong.

They're finding whatever emails they find on her server. Some of those emails will be personal and some work related but as she has already stated previously she turned over paper copies of all work related emails to the State Department as she is required to do. The State Department's policy was to allow each person to decide which emails were personal and which were work related.

Obviously the FBI will find work related emails among the personal ones because Hillary used the server for both.


It's nothing at all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. Precisely

Some folks are deliberately trying to obfuscate the issue. She has said she has used one server and e-mail address for all her correspondence, personal and official, so presumably all her correspondence will be on that server.

[Lychee2]

112. What?????

Talk about obfuscation! Your post takes the cake! Congratulations.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

121. Madame or sir, I believe you are confused. Let me see if I can help you.

If she used one e-mail address and server for all her correspondence, personal and official, it is only logical to assume that all her correspondence is on that server.

[Fawke Em]

96. Apparently she didn't.

We already know of the 15 sent to Blumenthal that she didn't send to the FBI and/or State.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/us/state-dept-gets-libya-emails-that-clinton-didnt-hand-over.html

Are those 15 the only work-related emails she and her attorneys missed?

Or just the tip of the iceberg?

We don't know.

All this aside, I know what the IT security community is hearing and it's not pretty folks.

Treat this as a "non-story" at your own peril. If the rumors are true, she may have far more issues than her fans could ever imagine - and it's not just about legalities.

[Lychee2]

114. Exactly.

It's amazing what lengths some Hillaryists will go to confuse the issue and conceal the facts.

[Lychee2]

110. You have misstated the facts.

And your answer is a jumble of contradictions.

[zappaman]

3. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Tommy2Tone]

7. No kidding

Just the Bernie fans doing their daily trashing of Hillary.

[zappaman]

12. ...

[MH1]

82. The FBI isn't just "Bernie fans". Or do you think it is? nt

[kenfrequed]

104. Actually...

Most of us Bernie fans don't give a crap about the email thing right now.


We care about:
Increasing the minimum wage
Providing free education
Creating a financial transaction tax
A more progressive tax system
Reducing the military budget
Moving towards a single payer system for health care
Stopping Keystone completely. (oddly calling it a "distraction" doesn't do this.)
Dealing with inequality of wealth in our society
Getting money out of politics.

Can we talk about that now. There are plenty of threads regarding it.

[treestar]

116. Yes, wonder why they are wasting time on this

By now it is clear nothing bad happened as to national security and they are going to spend time looking over 60000 emails, which are probably really innocuous.

[Capn Sunshine]

4. The OP title should be "FBI MIGHT recover Hillary's deleted emails"

According to the article no emails have been recovered yet, but they shared details of how it was going to happen.

[Fawke Em]

9. Well, this is confusing.

In this sentence, it sounds like they already have been extracting and separating them:

Once the e-mails have been extracted, a group of agents has been separating personal correspondence and passing along work-related messages to agents leading the investigation, the person said.

It's in the present tense.

[Capn Sunshine]

20. it's in future tense.

"have been" is still future, implying an event that has not taken place yet, but will in the future.

[Fawke Em]

26. I'm speaking of the second part of the sentence.

The FBI HAS BEEN separating the emails, etc.

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. Wow dude... "have been is still future"? Srsly? "Will be" is future. It's called English.

[Art_from_Ark]

37. "Have (been")+ past participle = present perfect tense

The present perfect tense can signify events that happened in the past, are continuing to happen in the present, or, occasionally, are expected to be completed in the future.

I have been to Mexico-- happened in the past
I have just finished my report--- happened in the recent past
The race has just begun-- recently started and is continuing
I have been a voter since the 1970s-- past event that is continuing to happen in the present
Once the votes have been counted...-- an event that is expected to be completed in the future

However, the second clause contains the verb phrase "have been separating", which is the present perfect progressive tense that indicates that something began in the past and is continuing to the present.

So the choice of verbs/wording in the first two clauses is odd, because the first clause implies that the act of extracting emails has not been completed yet and the second clause would then be dependent on the extraction being completed. However, the use of the present perfect progressive in the second clause indicates that the second action (separating) has already begun, independent of the first action.

[MH1]

83. Thank you for the grammar lesson :)

I did know "has been" and "have been" are not "future tense" but I was going to throw up my hands as to what the actual official name of the tense would be. (I was good at grammar in grammar school but have since forgot pretty much all about past perfect and participles and such).

So I'm going to assume you got it right and just say thank you!

[Art_from_Ark]

91. I have studied foreign languages for 40+ years

and make my living as someone who is versed in the English language, so I'm pretty confidant in English verb tenses-- at least in the American usage

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. "The FBI has recovered personal and work-related e-mails from the private computer server..."

Did you simply skip the first paragraph?

[Capn Sunshine]

22. without proof or attribution

according to an unknown third party source. So......

[cherokeeprogressive]

28. Damn, there was a goalpost here a moment ago...

Where'd you move it to?

[Capn Sunshine]

30. someplace where facts matter?

A guy who won't go on the record makes the later correction easier to take, and the initial story easier to incorporate what your opinion is.

It's really propaganda 101. Catapult it.

[magical thyme]

21. opening paragraph of the article says they have been recovered.

"The FBI has recovered personal and work-related e-mails from the private computer server used by Hillary Clinton during her time as secretary of state, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation’s success at salvaging personal e-mails that Clinton said had been deleted raises the possibility that the Democratic presidential candidate’s correspondence eventually could become public. The disclosure of such e-mails would likely fan the controversy over Clinton’s use of a private e-mail system for official business."

[wyldwolf]

8. In other news, Clinton increased her lead over Senator Sanders this week...

[Fawke Em]

14. Like Bernie fans have sooooo much sway over what and when

Bloomberg reports on stuff.



(Hillary, on the other hand, does have a direct influence on the anti-Bernie topics on "Think Progress.&quot

[Autumn]

19. In other news, the media is in the bag for Sanders...

in some warped reality.

[workinclasszero]

39. Right so.....

EMAIL...EMAIL...EMAIL...

Whatever, it reeks of desperation and it has the stink of hate radio/fox/republican HS all over it!

[yeoman6987]

50. The FBI is involved with the republicans?

I doubt it.

[Motown_Johnny]

27. This should help her

assuming no wrong doing was involved.



If the deleted emails were lost forever then there would always be some doubt as to what was deleted. Now that they have been recovered, this can eventually be laid to rest.

Besides that, it puts her stupid "wiped with a cloth?" comment behind her. If it had been wiped so that the emails could not be recovered, that comment would have looked very very bad. Now it just looks thoughtless.



I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter but I am happy to hear that the evidence now exists to prove that there was no wrong doing involved with the way the emails were handled (assuming that is the case, which I do).

[HereSince1628]

34. agreed, H> supporters should be pleased their champion can be cleared

It's going to take months probably to get it sorted through, but what better event to put the unscandal to rest?

[morningfog]

35. The FBI may find other interesting emails which aren't work related.

There are conceivable answers to why Hillary deleted her personal emails and why her IT tech invoked the 5th Amendment while also not breaking any record retention rules at State.

[RiverLover]

40. There it is.

That which may not be discussed here....truth...it must be shut down.

(Benghazi!!! You sound like a republican!!! I'm going to insinuate you are a troll but not say it directly so I don't get a hide!!!)

Thanks for shining a light on the reality of the situation, morningfog. And its a matter of when the axe might fall...right before the primary, or sometime afterwards?

[morningfog]

41. Over long said I have no idea what's in the emails and

don't really care. But, Hillary is not out of the woods yet. This story is not over until the FBI enda it's investigation. Until then, it will dog Hillary. And until then, there is a risk, a possibility, that something worse will come out. If there is something worse, I hope we know before the convention.

[Lychee2]

48. Here:

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Some of those emails might be about these deals, and many others.

[tritsofme]

43. Pretty bad hide

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is insulting and uncalled for. Nothing in this OP supports a response which refers to sanders supporters as a match made in hell with the other vile groups listed. A match made in hell? Over the top and insulting to good faith, strong Democrats who support Sanders.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:32 PM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Speechless. How insulting to everyone.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The idea that politics makes for strange bedfellows is not a new one. Sorry that reality offends you?
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Wow, talk about over the top. This post is that and vile as well. HIDE. Good god.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Don't agree with the post, but seldom vote to hide. Rather than alert, alerter should have posted exactly what they said in the comment on why they alerted. That would have been effective.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: An even bigger match made in Hell is childish bashing with which the Clinton and Sanders fanboys and fangirls are smearing each other. Such as this garbage. What will really be Hell is having to put up with this kind of incessant shit from both sides for the next 13 months. I'm sick of it already.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

49. The poster compared all Sanders supporters to. GOP committee. Of course it was a good hide.

You know better.

[MannyGoldstein]

58. I know! Such an insult against the Benghazi committee!

Just yesterday, a Volvo cut me off! I have evidence that Sanders supporters introduced Ebola to our planet!

[merrily]

64. The ebola virus IS a Bernie supporter.

It wears the teensiest Feel the Bern campaign button ever made.

[SidDithers]

62. +1...nt

Sid

[merrily]

65. Bad hide, my ass. Sanders is a candidate for the Democratic nomination and most of his supporters

are Democrats. Some Hillary's supporters have been trying for months to demonize Sanders' supporters and this poster attempted to do it literally and figuratively with no provocation from a Sanders whatever, just a "routine" reply to an OP about Hillary's emails that the FBI, not Sanders' supporters, are investigating.

That's some gratuitous ratfucking bullshit and a great hide. (JMO. I was not a juror on this post.)

[Puglover]

69. Get with the program.

If the hide is a Bernie supporter it is justified and righteous.

If the hide is a Clinton fan. They are being "silenced"

[merrily]

72. Silenced from broadbrush smears of supporters of a Democratic candidate and a majority of DUers?

Fuck, Puglover, you say that like it's a bad thing.

[Puglover]

73. Whoops

Maybe I should have included the

[merrily]

74. No, no I got you. But maybe I should have included it.

[Puglover]

75. Good.

[MH1]

86. Yep, should have been 7-0 to hide that crap, not 4-3. nt

[magical thyme]

97. considering who the single biggest beneficiary of Citizens United is, and who is running with zero

help from them, it is actually laughable to lump in Sanders supporters with CU.

[TwilightGardener]

45. Well, this could get interesting.

[bigdarryl]

46. My only worry is there on a fishing expedition like Ken Starr

Just remember the head of the FBI is a REPUBLICAN that Obama appointed.This is the same idiot who came out and said the Church shooting wasn't a terrorist attack

[BlueStateLib]

51. It was clinton's lawyer david kendall who has a security clearance, sorted the emails.

Do you really think that david kendall would do anything that would jeopardize his law degree and his security clearance. It was david kendall who copied the contents of the server to a secure thumb drive and then it was david kendall that set the retention settings on the blackberry enterprise server from "forever" to "90 days".

[TM99]

53. Men and women make decisions and take actions

daily in the realms of business and politics that jeopardize their professional standing constantly.

From Gen. Petraeus to Anthony Weiner to many others, human self-inflicted stupidity have brought down many a professional man or woman.

[Skwmom]

66. Classified information was mishandled. This could just be a side distraction to

cloud the issue of how classified information was handled.

Who knows.

[merrily]

67. He can't jeopardize his law degree, but he can jeopardize his ticket to practice law in one

jurisdiction. Lawyers around the country do that every day. They get suspended and disbarred every day. Sometimes, they get reinstated.

I am not saying he did do that. I am saying that, as a general proposition, risking a ticket to practice law is not out of the realm of possibility. In fact, Bubba did it when he lied under oath. I don't remember if he got disbarred or suspended, but he did get reinstated.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. NO, David Kendall is too smart to jeopardize his law degree.

NO, David Kendall is too smart to jeopardize his law degree. He is one of the most prominent attorneys in Washington, DC.

Also, he isn't one who sorted the e-mails. Another attorney did.

Not you, but a lot of the people on this board talk out of their you know where. If it is found David Kendall did anything wrong in this instance I will literally eat my computer and put it on youtube.

[merrily]

76. How very odd. You used the identical, yet nonsensical, wording that BlueStateLib used

in Reply 51. By any chance, did you both get the same poorly-worded memo?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

77. You and your associates suggested David Kendall has jeopardized his ability to practice law.

I merely pointed out the absurdity of that suggestion. There is really no need to get defensive.

[merrily]

78. My associates? WTF? Maybe you should look up that word. Also look up "defensive."

I have nothing to defend. You do.

"Ability to practice law" is correct. "Jeopardizing his law degree" is a nonsensical, bizarre and incorrect way to say it, something I'd never seen or heard in my life. It's a very noticeable and highly unlikely "coincidence" that you and another poster used the same nonsensical, bizarre and incorrect wording within a couple of posts of each other. Nothing in your reply altered that. Or could have.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

79. Associates

My associates? WTF?

There is really no need to get so defensive and upset so early in the morning. I would hate to be responsible for you starting your day on a low note.

associate
[v. uh-soh-shee-eyt, -see-; n., adj., uh-soh-shee-it, -eyt, -see-]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
verb (used with object), associated, associating.
1.
to connect or bring into relation, as thought, feeling, memory, etc.:
Many people associate dark clouds with depression and gloom.
2.
to join as a companion, partner, or ally:
to associate oneself with a cause.
3.
to unite; combine:
coal associated with shale.
verb (used without object), associated, associating.
4.
to enter into union; unite.
5.
to keep company, as a friend, companion, or ally:
He was accused of associating with known criminals.
6.
to join together as partners or colleagues.
noun
7.
a person who shares actively in anything as a business, enterprise, or undertaking; partner; colleague; fellow worker:
He consulted with his associates before proceeding further.
8.
a companion or comrade:
my most intimate associates.
9.
a confederate; an accomplice or ally:
criminal associates.
10.
anything usually accompanying or associated with another; an accompaniment or concomitant.
11.
a person who is admitted to a subordinate degree of membership in an association or institution:
an associate of the Royal Academy.
adjective
12.
connected, joined, or related, especially as a companion or colleague; having equal or nearly equal responsibility:
an associate partner.
13.
having subordinate status; without full rights and privileges:
an associate member.
14.
allied; concomitant.

[merrily]

80. I am associated with everyone and everything in the world then, and so are you.

Congratulation on having rendered the word totally meaningless.

No worries about upsetting me. It would take a lot more than a few nonsensical posts from you.

To the contrary, I am happy to have been a part of your learning something this morning, namely that whoever gave you and the other poster that bad wording should be replaced: Lawyers don't "jeopardize their law degrees," only their tickets.

Have a great day

[RiverLover]

81. degree, license, associate, homo sapien, upset, correct

They all mean the same thing, language to distinguish meaning is so overrated.

[merrily]

85. Using a bizarre term is nothing. Two posters using the same bizarre term a couple of posts apart,

however, doesn't seem purely coincidental.

Always great to see you, RiverLover.

You and I share some interests and views. Yet, there is no sane reason for anyone to hold me responsible for what you post or to hold you responsible for what I post.

Then again, expecting sanity at DU may be my mistake.

[RiverLover]

90. Yep.

I'm a little crushed though, I always hold you responsible for my posts.

[merrily]

92. LOL!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. "No worries about upsetting me. It would take a lot more than a few nonsensical posts from you. "

"No worries about upsetting me. It would take a lot more than a few nonsensical posts from you. "

I know you are writing that you aren't upset but your harsh words suggest otherwise. Even if you summarily reject my pleas for comity maybe other readers of this thread will read them and reach a level of well being.

Instead of criticizing a fellow member of this board for his or her thought perhaps it would have behooved you and your associates to ask him or her to elaborate.

"Jeopardizing their law degrees." I infer from that a law degree is rendered much, much... much less useful to a disbarred or suspended lawyer.

Have a great, great... great day.

[merrily]

89. Your posts are a plea for comity? Now, THAT's funny.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

93. Comity

Definition of COMITY

1
a : friendly social atmosphere : social harmony <group activities promoting comity>
b : a loose widespread community based on common social institutions <the comity of civilization>
c : comity of nations
d : the informal and voluntary recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and judicial decisions of another

[merrily]

94. Thanks. I know the definition of comity, though. That's why your claim was so funny.

Pass it on to your associates.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

95. Like you I consider everybody in the world my associate as well as my friend.

[merrily]

98. Cool. Then link me to the post where I suggested someone jeopardized his law degree OR his ability

to practice law by fooling with emails. That was your claim. That I had suggested that. Link me to my post saying that or suggesting that or apologize.

That might be a first step.

Second step. Stop pretending I have some responsibility for what other Bernie supporters do on this board, on Twitter or anywhere else. There are millions of individuals who support Bernie.

Reply #90 from RiverLover notwithstanding, am Inot responsible for each and all of them, nor they for me.

Also, don't pretend that my labeling a bizarre comment as bizarre = I am upset. I am able to remain calm while labeling things correctly. I get upset if my son is sick, not because of banal bs from DU.

IOW, cut the bullshit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

100. I am sad that you are dismissing my pleas for comity in such harsh terms...

I am sad that you are dismissing my pleas for comity in such harsh terms:

IOW, cut the bullshit.

but that will not discourage me from trying.

" A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. "

-Proverbs 15:1

[merrily]

102. No link and no apology. Just more condescension and pointless wasting of my time. Got it.

/ignore.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

105. I have offered my hand in friendship several times only to have it slapped

I have offered my hand in friendship several times only to have it slapped but that will not discourage me from continuing to try.

[TwilightGardener]

120. I'm not sure Kendall's having a security clearance entitled him to have access to

those particular classified emails. I mean, David Petraeus's girlfriend also had a security clearance. What she didn't have was a need-to-know, and she wasn't "read in" to whatever info he revealed to her. It remains to be seen whether his (Kendall's) handling of classified email was proper.

[SidDithers]

55. Benghazi!!...nt

Sid

[Skwmom]

56. I think they've only recovered some of her emails. n/t

[randome]

59. Breaking news belongs in the Late Breaking News forum. Nice try, though.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[DCBob]

71. So they weren't "wiped" as RW media has been harping on for months.

[MH1]

88. Well I'm sure someone dusted the server at some point.

Dust is very bad for electronic equipment, you know.

[magical thyme]

99. David Kendall is the one who said they were "wiped"

even after the IT company said they had no record of having wiped them.

If Kendall had possession of the server, he may have had somebody wipe it or partially wipe it.

[DCBob]

122. Can you provide a link that quotes Kendal saying the server was "wiped"?

Thanks.

[magical thyme]

123. can't find a direct quote now. am only finding it ascribed to him.

But David Kendall, an attorney for Clinton, said the 900 pages of emails previously provided to the panel cover its request.

Kendall also informed the committee that Clinton’s emails from her time at the State Department have been permanently erased.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/gowdy-clinton-wiped-her-server-clean-116472


"During the fall of 2014, Secretary Clinton’s legal representative reviewed her [e-mail] account for the time period from Jan. 21, 2009, through Feb. 1, 2013," Kendall wrote. "After the review was completed to identify and provide to the Department of State all of the secretary's work-related and potentially work-related emails, the secretary chose not to keep her non-record personal emails and asked that her account (which was no longer in active use) be set to retain only the most recent 60 days of email."

"No emails from [e-mail] for the time period Jan. 21, 2009, through Feb. 1, 2013, reside on the server. Thus, there are no [e-mail] e-mails from Secretary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state on the server for any review, even if such review were appropriate and legally authorized."

To recap, Clinton’s private server was wiped clean —technically, filtering out emails older than 60 days — sometime between Dec. 5, 2014, and March 27, 2015.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/12/brianna-keilar/when-did-hillary-clinton-delete-her-work-emails/


She also has said the server was wiped clean of more than 31,000 emails that involved personal matters such as wedding plans, vacations and yoga routines.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-to-turn-over-private-email-server-to-federal-authorities-1439344172

[NCTraveler]

87. It has become clear even to the ouside observer that Gowdy fucked up here.

The people who care about this see it for what it is and it isn't going to Bern her like some think. Every single time these fake scandals are the same. Hit job after hit job. Retraction after retraction. Clinton numbers start to go up. Every single time.

[treestar]

101. I wonder if I've written 60000 emails ever since the dawn of email

That sure sounds like a lot.

[leveymg]

106. That's just about the same number as your DU posts.

They add up, don't they? The thing that's unlikely is the 50/50 split she claims. It seems likely, there was more Department mail than she acknowledged. The method of separating them by keyword search -- without personal review by a team of lawyers and staff -- seems to have been a reckless short-cut.

[treestar]

107. wow didn't think of that, amazing

9 years almost at DU - 58000 posts.

Then again for Hillary they are talking about only 4 years at Dept. of State, I am assuming.

[leveymg]

113. 4 years. She hooked up the server the day after she had her Senate confirmation hearing.

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I don't think she mentioned that detail to the panel.

[antigop]

119. HAHA! Astute observation, leveymg. nt

[Stellar]

103. Why is this (and Benghazi) still a story? nt

[antigop]

111. Investigators Find Emails Hillary Clinton Said Were Erased

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/us/politics/investigators-find-emails-hillary-clinton-said-were-erased.html

Mrs. Clinton and her lawyer have said that the server’s contents were deleted last year after her aides determined which emails were personal and which were work-related and should be provided to the State Department. In March, a House committee asked Mrs. Clinton to give the server to a third party to determine whether she had turned over all of the work-related emails.

Mrs. Clinton’s lawyer, David E. Kendall, said in response to the request that there was no reason to hand over the server because there was nothing on it. He said that after Mrs. Clinton’s aides had reviewed the emails, a setting on the server was changed so that only emails sent in the previous 60 days would be retained.

But in August, Mrs. Clinton authorized her aides to hand the server to investigators. Computer forensic experts have said that if the change in the server setting was the only measure taken, it would be fairly easy for F.B.I. agents who specialize in recovering deleted information from computers to retrieve the messages.

[leveymg]

117. Thanks for that second report - looks like we're coming up to an important announcement. n/t

[antigop]

118. hey, it's the NY Times...you know it can't be trusted. nt