Ron Fournier's latest piece full of "flatly false" allegations and "the airiest kind of speculation"

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By Kevin Drum, Mother Jones

Ho hum. It was pretty obvious what the Fournier column was about, since he's been obsessed about Hillary's email server for months, but I went ahead and clicked anyway. I was pretty taken aback. He made three points at the top of the column:

1. "The State Department confirmed that Clinton turned over her email only after Congress discovered that she had exclusively used a private email system."
Nope. Fournier is referring to last night's Washington Post story, which says the State Department discovered it didn't know where Clinton's emails were. (Or Condi Rice's. Or Colin Powell's. Or Madeleine Albright's. Or much of anyone else's apparently.) Clinton turned over her emails when State asked for them.

2. "A federal court has helped uncover more emails related to the Benghazi raid that were withheld from congressional investigators. Clinton has insisted she turned over all her work-related email and complied with congressional subpoenas. Again, she hasn’t been telling the truth."
This is flatly false. The linked Politico story says nothing about Clinton not turning over all her work emails. It says only that the State Department has claimed executive privilege for a few documents—something with no relation at all to Hillary Clinton. From Politico: "The FOIA lawsuits provide a vehicle to force the agency to identify those emails, although the substance of the messages is not disclosed."

3. "The FBI has recovered personal and work-related e-mails from her private server....The FBI has moved beyond whether U.S. secrets were involved to how and why. In the language of law enforcement, the FBI is investigating her motive."
I guess this isn't flatly false, but "how and why" were words used by Bloomberg's reporter in the linked story. There didn't seem to be any special significance attached to them, and it's the airiest kind of speculation to say this means the FBI is investigating Clinton's motive. They've consistently said that she's not the subject of a criminal investigation. Why would they be investigating motive if they're not investigating any underlying crime?

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/09/if-you-accuse-hillary-clinton-lying-you-should-be-careful-truth-yourself

[ismnotwasm]

1. You forgot the link

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3. True

Fixed

[AllFieldsRequired]

2. You gotta give it to the GOP, I truly didnt think they could manufacture a story to destroy

her like they did with the blow job and Rose law firm, etc.

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4. True. I haven't seen any Democrats believing Fournier's BS in message boards NT

[mcar]

5. It was a popular thread here yesterday

[leveymg]

10. Link? There were multiple threads going on each of these topics.

DU's Google doesn't show anything in recent days with that name except this piddly thread. Fournier seems to have made a hash of three news articles in his column, to which Drum responds, but nobody has cited his stuff here approvingly recently, not that I've seen.

BTW: Drum seems to have skirted around the larger truths in these reports as much as found weakness in some of Fournier's own particular outtakes. Leave it to an HRC-bot to further confound the confusion of a RW attack squader.

[mcar]

15. Here is the link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251616070

[riversedge]

11. That is sad. Just sad that Democrats are so gullible and refuse to look for the Truth

[leveymg]

14. Glass houses.

Think about it.

[NCTraveler]

6. Seems Ron has found some new readers.

The right is desperate to bring Clinton down and they have found a way to tailor their stories to where LIV's on the left will disseminate their bullshit for them. It's actually pretty impressive to watch them being played so easily.

[riversedge]

12. What's sad it that it has been going on for several months now

[DanTex]

7. Not surprising that Ron Fournier is a big hit with the so-called "progressives" here.

[riversedge]

13. 1+

[Fumesucker]

8. The part I appreciate most about this is the move to fix the State Department email system

That's the sign of a true leader, they find a problem and rather than just working around it for their own personal convenience they take the bull by the horns and move to improve the system for everyone who needs it.

That's the sort of leader we need in these uncertain days.

[closeupready]

9. Ron Fournier was the biggest Bushbot of the 00's. Dismiss

anything and everything he says, out of hand.

[CTyankee]

16. I wondered why I kept seeing Fournier on Morning Joe recently...

They've found another cheerleader for their crusade against Hillary...

At least today they were onto Biden's shooting up in the polls and yet another interview with Trump.

They need some new material for their act. I'm sure tomorrow will be all Pope for lots of the show and some of the HRC email stuff is now stale...if you ask me, Trump is getting a bit stale himself. Well, they've got Carly to fall back on...