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twii

(88 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:26 PM Sep 2015

Fivethirtyeight: Bobby Jindal could win Iowa

From the awesome political website fivethirtyeight, we get this gem today:

"I’m not sure Jindal benefits from Scott Walker’s recent exit from the Republican race, exactly, but I do think the Louisiana governor is a sleeper pick to win the Iowa caucuses."

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bobby-jindal-could-still-win-iowa/

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Fivethirtyeight: Bobby Jindal could win Iowa (Original Post) twii Sep 2015 OP
Nate has seriously lost it.....n/t monmouth4 Sep 2015 #1
Sleeper.....translation: HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #2
fivethirtyeight has sunk to the level of reading tea leaves tularetom Sep 2015 #3
done.. frylock Sep 2015 #7
WTF? Trajan Sep 2015 #4
I can't imagine a cat being a fan of Booby. hifiguy Sep 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #5
Harry Enten is about at Dick Morris levels of political predictions jfern Sep 2015 #17
And I might be able to flap my arms and fly to the moon. hifiguy Sep 2015 #6
I tell you Robbins Sep 2015 #9
Don't read too much into the article's title. cheapdate Sep 2015 #12
He should have stayed with sports. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #10
I've got a better chance of winning Iowa. Sheesh. Vinca Sep 2015 #11
Apparently none of you all read the article dsc Sep 2015 #13
Same guy who said Bernie surge was over and Clinton will win NH ram2008 Sep 2015 #14
Jindal could pick up his own, Perry's, Walker's, Gilmore's, Pataki's and Santorum's support rurallib Sep 2015 #15
538 has been a total joke this primary jfern Sep 2015 #16
That article was written by a 24 year old "analyst" oberliner Sep 2015 #19
Too many social conservative nuts with whom he's competing. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #18
By the same author of: The Bernie Sanders Surge Appears To Be Over (Aug 11) oberliner Sep 2015 #20
I'm not sure he's been proven wrong. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #22
. aidbo Sep 2015 #21
Isn't 538 busy number crushing post season baseball stats right now? nt TeamPooka Sep 2015 #23

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. fivethirtyeight has sunk to the level of reading tea leaves
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:37 PM
Sep 2015

Jindal couldn't be elected dog catcher in Bumfuck, LA. No way he could win Iowa caucuses or anything else.

Bookmark this link and next time you read that fivethirtyeight predicts that Bernie Sanders can't be elected president, read it.

They have lost whatever credibility they had.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
4. WTF?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:43 PM
Sep 2015

Did his cat tell him to say this?

I think it actually said 'window', in which he meant to open that damned window over there, not 'Jindal' ...

What a maroon!

Response to twii (Original post)

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
12. Don't read too much into the article's title.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:41 PM
Sep 2015

According to the article, the latest polling on net favorability in Iowa has Jindal forth, behind Carson, Fiorina, and Rubio. The point of the piece was more to just talk about the Iowa caucuses in general, than to present an argument for Jindal's winning -- which is said to be only a "possibility" and is further tempered with the statement, "Of course, that’s not the same thing as winning the GOP nomination."

Nate Silver is as solid as they come in the game of predicting future voting.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. He should have stayed with sports.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:29 PM
Sep 2015

Gramen artificiosum odi.

Lex clavatonis designati rescindenda est.

dsc

(53,323 posts)
13. Apparently none of you all read the article
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:46 PM
Sep 2015

He makes some points and it should be noted that Nate Cohn is the one who brought this up in the first place.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
14. Same guy who said Bernie surge was over and Clinton will win NH
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:17 PM
Sep 2015

No credibility; he measures who wins based on "endorsements" lol. FiveThirtyEight is crap now.

Bobby Jindal has no chance in Iowa, the main reason being that the Repub voters probably think he's a muslim just because of the way he looks.

rurallib

(64,563 posts)
15. Jindal could pick up his own, Perry's, Walker's, Gilmore's, Pataki's and Santorum's support
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:59 PM
Sep 2015

and still have 0.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
16. 538 has been a total joke this primary
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:08 PM
Sep 2015

It's amazing how bad this prediction that Webb would be the anti-Hillary is.

Who matches that profile?

Webb, for one. He has been both a Democrat and Republican. Maybe Brian Schweitzer, the former Montana governor who mixes liberal and conservative positions and is not a fan of the Washington, D.C., establishment. A candidate like Joe Biden, who has been in Washington for over 40 years — probably not.

Meanwhile, more liberal candidates like Dean, Warren and independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont match the anti-establishment part of the equation. They may, however, be too liberal to take advantage of Clinton’s “weakness” among moderate and conservative voters.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/casting-the-ideal-challenger-to-hillary-clinton/

So, even though both Webb and Hillary are running, Hillary + Webb < Biden + Sanders in the polls

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. Too many social conservative nuts with whom he's competing.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:27 PM
Sep 2015

The article mentions that Huckabee and Santorum have each won the Iowa Caucus with late surges. And that's a worthwhile point. But several similar social conservative nuts, including Huckabee, are currently ahead of Jindal in Iowa polling. There's way too much competition for Jindal to win. Carson, Cruz and Fiorina are all polling much better. As mentioned, Huckabee is also polling better. Even Santorum could overtake Jindal given that he once won the Iowa Caucus.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. By the same author of: The Bernie Sanders Surge Appears To Be Over (Aug 11)
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:23 PM
Sep 2015

Not long ago, Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was surging. In just a few months, the Vermont senator halved Hillary Clinton’s lead in Iowa and moved to within shouting distance of her in New Hampshire. But it’s probably time to change the verb tense. No longer is Sanders surging. He has surged. From now on, picking up additional support will be more of a slog.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-bernie-sanders-surge-appears-to-be-over/

Wouldn't take this young man too seriously.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
22. I'm not sure he's been proven wrong.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:33 PM
Sep 2015

"No longer is Sanders surging. He has surged. From now on, picking up additional support will be more of a slog."

I guess it's somewhat subjective (in that one person might define "surge" differently than someone else), but I don't think Enten is necessarily wrong. He didn't say Sanders wouldn't pick up additional support, just that it would be tougher and incremental.

Anyway, it's good that you recognized that Enten is the author of that article and the one in the OP. Those who are posting comments about Nate Silver and 538 as a whole are clearly not paying attention to who's writing what. I frequently post links, but I'm learning that most don't bother to click on them.

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