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50 Headlines That Reveal Wash. Post Reporter Chris Cillizza's Obsession With The Clinton Email Story (Original Post) leftofcool Sep 2015 OP
People like Cillizza are trying to make a name for themselves. Ann Colter was a nobody until she upaloopa Sep 2015 #1
Get Clinton, Get Cash. So it has been for long time. And this time there is a LOT of cash! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #5
Gee,you might come to the conclusion that he has an agenda! Human101948 Sep 2015 #2
Many incompetent hacks in the mass media understand they need to Get Clinton to Get Cash. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #4
Cillizza and the MSM. This bias has probably earned career points. Hortensis Sep 2015 #12
Keep falling for it or willfully disseminating it? NCTraveler Sep 2015 #6
And? 99Forever Sep 2015 #7
The OP reminds me of the letters to the editor at the WaPo during Watergate. The GOP letterwriters leveymg Sep 2015 #8
Except that Watergate started with an actual crime. One of the 99 Sep 2015 #10
So did this one: felony violation of 18 USC Sec. 793 (e) and (f) and EO 13526 leveymg Sep 2015 #11
written by Bush's AG dsc Sep 2015 #13
The Bush Admin should have been frogmarched down Penn Ave. leveymg Sep 2015 #14
my point is you are relying on his reading of the law dsc Sep 2015 #15
I haven't even read Mukasey's take on this. His brief may have some similarities with leveymg Sep 2015 #17
But you are doing the RW's work for them. riversedge Sep 2015 #18
No. I'm letting my friends here know what legal consequences I believe she's facing. leveymg Sep 2015 #19
Yet no one has been charged with a crime as yet. One of the 99 Sep 2015 #21
Of course not. That will ultimately be the decision of the AG. leveymg Sep 2015 #23
You're not in a position to say what's most likely. One of the 99 Sep 2015 #24
The AG will determine when HRC is being investigated. That's just evident from the circumstances. leveymg Sep 2015 #25
Not when, if. One of the 99 Sep 2015 #28
It's self-evident she broke the law. The question is, leveymg Sep 2015 #29
No it is not One of the 99 Sep 2015 #30
She loaded classified information onto a nonsecure, private server - she broke the law. Prima facie leveymg Sep 2015 #32
Again that is your opinion. One of the 99 Sep 2015 #33
And yet somehow ibegurpard Sep 2015 #9
I didn't realize how many of these recent DU memes came from a single source. randome Sep 2015 #16
If her campaign can't deal with Cillizza and this email crap Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #20
We talk a lot about blaiming the victim on this upaloopa Sep 2015 #27
Media Matters =David Brock=Clinton Campaign. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #22
cilizza's a nothing, so I've never paid attention to him. elleng Sep 2015 #26
"writers don't compose headlines" Fumesucker Sep 2015 #31

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. People like Cillizza are trying to make a name for themselves. Ann Colter was a nobody until she
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:28 AM
Sep 2015

became a talking head bashing Bill Clinton during the Monica thing. The Clintons are some people's ticket to stardom.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
2. Gee,you might come to the conclusion that he has an agenda!
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:30 AM
Sep 2015

That collection of headlines makes Chris look a little biased.

Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
7. And?
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:58 AM
Sep 2015

Out to prove that this will haunt Hillary for the rest of her public life?

Well, no shit.

Personally, I want a President without an entire train of boxcars full of baggage sucking up of their time and energy. More than two decades of trying to defend Clintons as they make one unforced error after another is quite enough, thank you very much.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. The OP reminds me of the letters to the editor at the WaPo during Watergate. The GOP letterwriters
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:59 AM
Sep 2015

similarly denied all along that Nixon had done anything wrong or illegal, and argued vociferously that the scandal was just a partisan Democratic conspiracy theory. They pointed to continued coverage of Watergate as proof of "liberal media bias."

Yes, some people keep falling for the sleeze.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
10. Except that Watergate started with an actual crime.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:46 AM
Sep 2015

The break-in at DNC headquarters. So far no one has been accused of committing a crime regarding Clinton's emails.

And Chris Cillizza's web series, Mouthpiece Theatre, was yanked in 2009 for a sexist attack on Clinton. So he seems to have some issues with her.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
11. So did this one: felony violation of 18 USC Sec. 793 (e) and (f) and EO 13526
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:43 AM
Sep 2015

The crime was committed the moment that HRC, herself, posted presumed classified information (see, EO 13526 the presumption that mishandling of foreign government-sourced information is harmful to the national security) onto an unsecured private server without authorization. It was also a felony under the Espionage Act, 18 USC Sec. 793, for her to facilitate others in the use of her private system to exchange classified information.

It's all laid out here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653, "Hillary Clinton's Felony. The federal laws violated by the private server"

dsc

(52,161 posts)
15. my point is you are relying on his reading of the law
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:06 AM
Sep 2015

and he is a liar, so therefore his reading of the law is suspect.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
17. I haven't even read Mukasey's take on this. His brief may have some similarities with
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 10:21 AM
Sep 2015

mine, but that is merely coincidental. What I have posted is entirely my own analysis, and I am not RW. Not at all.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
19. No. I'm letting my friends here know what legal consequences I believe she's facing.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 27, 2015, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Believe me, the RW doesn't need me for legal strategy. In fact, it isn't up to the GOP. It's in the hands of the Attorney General.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
23. Of course not. That will ultimately be the decision of the AG.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 01:23 PM
Sep 2015

Most likely, it will work out as it did for CIA Director Deutch when he brought home classified materials on his laptop and hooked it onto the web to watch adult videos. He resigned, and was referred to the AG who sat on it for the rest of Clinton's term. He was pardoned by Bill on the last day.

As for the USA for North Carolina who prosecuted Petraeus. There was a plea agreement, and he was convicted of a lesser charge. The former USA left office and went into private practice. She's now part of HRC's campaign. In her op-ed, she never addressed the key issue of presumed classified information which didn't come up in the Petraeus case. Sprinkle that one with partisan salt.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
24. You're not in a position to say what's most likely.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:02 PM
Sep 2015

Especially since Clinton herself is not being investigated.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
25. The AG will determine when HRC is being investigated. That's just evident from the circumstances.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:10 PM
Sep 2015

Highest political profile case. The FBI is under the AG. Nobody at the Bureau is going to make that call because once they do all hell is going to break loose, regardless of what the decision is. If the Deutch case is any guide, the AG will likely decide not to decide, publicly.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
29. It's self-evident she broke the law. The question is,
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 02:04 AM
Sep 2015

does this Administration have the will to charge her, and will they go for the max or settle for a political solution?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
32. She loaded classified information onto a nonsecure, private server - she broke the law. Prima facie
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:41 AM
Sep 2015

violation of 18 USC 793 (e) and/or (f), as classified under Executive Order 13526. If you have real interest in this subject, read the post that explains exactly what that means -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653 -- and then come back and argue specifics. If you don't, then just keep coming back to argue.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
33. Again that is your opinion.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:04 AM
Sep 2015

There is no proof that "she loaded classified information into a private server" as you put it. And neither the Justice Department or the FBI has accused her of breaking any law. As I state above, even the prosecutor in the General Petraeus case has said no crime has been committed here.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
9. And yet somehow
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:06 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary's going to be able to put this all to rest once she's won the nomination...which she hasn't been able to do so far. Bernie ' s a Socialist but so is Hillary ( as is Obama and every other Democrat) AND we get treated to a non-stop barrage of her "scandals" and she generates no excitement to counterract that. Great strategy for picking a nominee guys!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. I didn't realize how many of these recent DU memes came from a single source.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:17 AM
Sep 2015

Love or hate Clinton, it should be embarrassing to anyone to be carrying Cillizza's water. 'Sleazy Cillizza' has a good ring to it.
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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
20. If her campaign can't deal with Cillizza and this email crap
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 03:23 PM
Sep 2015

how are they going to deal with Rove and the Koch Brother's slime machine?

This stuff is still softball compared to what the RW will do to her. We all know they have been planning on running against her for years.
What they will do to her will make Swift Boating look like a ticker tape parade.



Please keep in mind, this is a news story. Just think about what attack ads will be made from it.





This is just the tip of the iceberg. If she can't deal with Cillizza and the email story she should not be our nominee.



upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. We talk a lot about blaiming the victim on this
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:52 PM
Sep 2015

board and usually we find the behavior less than honorable but then it's Hillary so anything goes right?

elleng

(130,903 posts)
26. cilizza's a nothing, so I've never paid attention to him.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 04:13 PM
Sep 2015

and remember, writers don't compose headlines.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
31. "writers don't compose headlines"
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:39 AM
Sep 2015

Exactly...

I would have no idea anyone named Godzilla Cillizza even existed were it not for DUers complaining about them.

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