2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum50 Headlines That Reveal Wash. Post Reporter Chris Cillizza's Obsession With The Clinton Email Story
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/09/25/50-headlines-that-reveal-wash-post-reporter-chr/205765And yet, people keep falling for the sleeze
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)became a talking head bashing Bill Clinton during the Monica thing. The Clintons are some people's ticket to stardom.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)That collection of headlines makes Chris look a little biased.
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(23,946 posts)Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Enormous difference in the two.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Out to prove that this will haunt Hillary for the rest of her public life?
Well, no shit.
Personally, I want a President without an entire train of boxcars full of baggage sucking up of their time and energy. More than two decades of trying to defend Clintons as they make one unforced error after another is quite enough, thank you very much.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)similarly denied all along that Nixon had done anything wrong or illegal, and argued vociferously that the scandal was just a partisan Democratic conspiracy theory. They pointed to continued coverage of Watergate as proof of "liberal media bias."
Yes, some people keep falling for the sleeze.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)The break-in at DNC headquarters. So far no one has been accused of committing a crime regarding Clinton's emails.
And Chris Cillizza's web series, Mouthpiece Theatre, was yanked in 2009 for a sexist attack on Clinton. So he seems to have some issues with her.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)The crime was committed the moment that HRC, herself, posted presumed classified information (see, EO 13526 the presumption that mishandling of foreign government-sourced information is harmful to the national security) onto an unsecured private server without authorization. It was also a felony under the Espionage Act, 18 USC Sec. 793, for her to facilitate others in the use of her private system to exchange classified information.
It's all laid out here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653, "Hillary Clinton's Felony. The federal laws violated by the private server"
dsc
(52,161 posts)what a wonderful source. Was Goebells to busy being dead?
leveymg
(36,418 posts)But that doesn't excuse HRC.
dsc
(52,161 posts)and he is a liar, so therefore his reading of the law is suspect.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)mine, but that is merely coincidental. What I have posted is entirely my own analysis, and I am not RW. Not at all.
riversedge
(70,218 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 27, 2015, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Believe me, the RW doesn't need me for legal strategy. In fact, it isn't up to the GOP. It's in the hands of the Attorney General.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)Even the prosecutor in the General Petraeus case has said no crime was committed here.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/30/clinton-controversy-no-comparison-petraeus-column/71421242/
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Most likely, it will work out as it did for CIA Director Deutch when he brought home classified materials on his laptop and hooked it onto the web to watch adult videos. He resigned, and was referred to the AG who sat on it for the rest of Clinton's term. He was pardoned by Bill on the last day.
As for the USA for North Carolina who prosecuted Petraeus. There was a plea agreement, and he was convicted of a lesser charge. The former USA left office and went into private practice. She's now part of HRC's campaign. In her op-ed, she never addressed the key issue of presumed classified information which didn't come up in the Petraeus case. Sprinkle that one with partisan salt.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)Especially since Clinton herself is not being investigated.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Highest political profile case. The FBI is under the AG. Nobody at the Bureau is going to make that call because once they do all hell is going to break loose, regardless of what the decision is. If the Deutch case is any guide, the AG will likely decide not to decide, publicly.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)And that still remains to be seen.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)does this Administration have the will to charge her, and will they go for the max or settle for a political solution?
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)That is your opinion.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)violation of 18 USC 793 (e) and/or (f), as classified under Executive Order 13526. If you have real interest in this subject, read the post that explains exactly what that means -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653 -- and then come back and argue specifics. If you don't, then just keep coming back to argue.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)There is no proof that "she loaded classified information into a private server" as you put it. And neither the Justice Department or the FBI has accused her of breaking any law. As I state above, even the prosecutor in the General Petraeus case has said no crime has been committed here.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Hillary's going to be able to put this all to rest once she's won the nomination...which she hasn't been able to do so far. Bernie ' s a Socialist but so is Hillary ( as is Obama and every other Democrat) AND we get treated to a non-stop barrage of her "scandals" and she generates no excitement to counterract that. Great strategy for picking a nominee guys!
randome
(34,845 posts)Love or hate Clinton, it should be embarrassing to anyone to be carrying Cillizza's water. 'Sleazy Cillizza' has a good ring to it.
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Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)how are they going to deal with Rove and the Koch Brother's slime machine?
This stuff is still softball compared to what the RW will do to her. We all know they have been planning on running against her for years.
What they will do to her will make Swift Boating look like a ticker tape parade.
Please keep in mind, this is a news story. Just think about what attack ads will be made from it.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. If she can't deal with Cillizza and the email story she should not be our nominee.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)board and usually we find the behavior less than honorable but then it's Hillary so anything goes right?
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Hardly an unbiased source.
elleng
(130,903 posts)and remember, writers don't compose headlines.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Exactly...
I would have no idea anyone named Godzilla Cillizza even existed were it not for DUers complaining about them.