2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum2008: ‘Slightly Creepy Cult of Personality’ Around Obama
The above is headline pulled from an article in Newsweek. I find it amusing that many of those who aggressively support Obama and Clinton are using very similar rhetoric to smear Bernie.
"CNN repeats smear of Obama supporters as "creepy" and "cult-like""
http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/02/15/cnn-repeats-smear-of-obama-supporters-as-creepy/142590
Barack Obama criticised over 'cult-like' rallies
"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579618/Barack-Obama-criticised-over-cult-like-rallies.html
Obamamania verges on obsession
http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obamamania-verges-on-obsession-008605
Critics, including Clinton, Arizona Sen. John McCain and members of the Republican chattering class clearly think so.
A competing narrative has formed in recent weeks in which opponents try to turn Obamas popularity into a negative by hinting that theres something uninformed and empty or just plain creepy about his impassioned support.
For weeks, Clinton and her campaign have increasingly centered their critique of Obama on the notion that while he can wax poetic on the stump, she offers more experience and on-the-job training.
Last week, Clinton adviser Sid Blumenthal e-mailed an article from The American Conservative implying that Obama's support was, at least in part, due to white liberal guilt.
And here from Clinton supporter Paul Krugman
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=0
Why, then, is there so much venom out there?
I wont try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody. Im not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality. Weve already had that from the Bush administration remember Operation Flight Suit? We really dont want to go there again.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the nests of extremists making so much unpleasant noise around Obama then and Bernie today are typical of the 70 million liberals and conservative progressives who elected Obama by a good majority is silly. They're not even typical of Bernie supporters today, mercifully for his chances.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)He was calling Obama supporters names in 2008, and now supports all of the president's policies even if he bashed then when they were Bush policies. There are so few dependable liberals in the media these days.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Apparently are similar to behaviors in they are not easily changed.
What's really impressive is the old tropes are out much earlier this time around.
frylock
(34,825 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Another right wing talking point we often see here now.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Yep, SSDD.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)LoveIsNow
(356 posts)I was living in the dorms at the University of South Florida. When CNN called the election, students took to the street that ran through the dorms to celebrate. I remember a number of students waving 3x5 flags with Obama's face on them. In my ecstasy, I remember having the fleeting thought "I hope I didn't just vote in the next Stalin". Time would prove that I had voted for the best of the four presidents of my lifetime so far (I would give him a B - I would consider FDR the last "A" president), and a president who was, if anything, frustratingly restrained.
I think this is just what a popular campaign looks like in the 21st century.
Hopefully this time, we will remember that our candidate needs our enthusiasm after election day as much, if not more than, during the campaign.
murielm99
(30,740 posts)and kept the headquarters open on election night. My oldest daughter was one of the lucky ones with a ticket to Grant Park.
For his second election, I phone banked a lot, and put out signs for people. In some places, they were stolen or vandalized as soon as my back was turned. I was lucky enough to get two passes to McCormick Place on election night. It was crowded, exhausting and fun.
I have to be honest. The first time around, I did think some of the younger Obama supporters, those with little or no experience on a campaign, did behave in a cult like manner. I did not like that much. I have been to state and national conventions where the enthusiasm was high, but this had a different flavor.
I think people have to grow and learn. There are different types of enthusiasm. You are correct when you say we need to remember that enthusiasm after the election, too. We need to remind people especially that that enthusiasm is needed for midterm elections, and for down ticket races!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Is creepy, cult like behavior!
MisterP
(23,730 posts)there's still DUers insisting that he got us out of Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan