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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 11:26 AM Sep 2015

Hi all. Have you seen O'Malley's plan for Social Security?

If you haven't (or even if you have), I think this is a great chance to tell you about it.

I know we all support different candidates with different visions, but I think O'Malley's white paper on Social Security is really some of the best ideas there are, and I hope that even if you support a different candidate you would ask him or her to take these ideas into their own plans.

http://martinomalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/OMalley-Retirement-Security.pdf

First off, O'Malley has an explicit goal of increasing the number of Americans with adequate retirement savings by 50%, through a combination of wage increases and savings incentives.

O'Malley rightly calls Social Security one of the USA's greatest achievements. It is our responsibility to see it handed off to the next generation rather than whittled down.

O'Malley supports immediate increases in benefits for both current and future retirees, to be paid for by an increase in the minimum wage (higher wages mean more SS revenues).

O'Malley supports a minimum Social Security benefit at 125% of the Federal poverty line, so that no Senior Citizen need live in poverty.

O'Malley supports a change in the inflation calculation to use the "CPI-E" rather than "CPI-U" formula. The "CPI-E" more accurately reflects the spending patterns of elderly Americans. (There's literally no excuse not to do this.)

(This one was what won me over for O'Malley) O'Malley supports giving giving up to five years of "caregiver credits" to persons doing elder or child care, which means those five years without wages will not count against them in the calculation of their SS benefits. This is literally the most pro-family idea to be suggested in decades, and I cannot stress enough how strongly I support it.

I do not pretend that I will convince many people with this, but I really hope that all of you will at least look at O'Malley's plans. Even if you are not yet convinced to support him for President, I hope you will urge your candidate to adopt these measures in his or her platform.

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Hi all. Have you seen O'Malley's plan for Social Security? (Original Post) Recursion Sep 2015 OP
Bookmarking to read later...thanks! cyberswede Sep 2015 #1
K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2015 #2
I like it- thank you! bettyellen Sep 2015 #3
Good ideas I like them. But does he say anything about raising the income cap? Armstead Sep 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Sep 2015 #6
He said in August he wanted to lift it Recursion Sep 2015 #7
Switching to CPI-E is absolutely essential eridani Sep 2015 #5
His stump speech talks about lifting it Recursion Sep 2015 #8
Or it (lifting the cap) suggests the wealthy should pay their fair share. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #10
The increase in FICA need not be tracked exactly by the benefit increase eridani Sep 2015 #11
O'Malley's still running? Garrett78 Sep 2015 #9
DWS is severely damaging the Dem brand with her crap eridani Sep 2015 #12
Agreed. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #15
I like it except: Live and Learn Sep 2015 #13
The caregiver credit is huge artislife Sep 2015 #14

Response to Armstead (Reply #4)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. His stump speech talks about lifting it
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:52 AM
Sep 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/omalley-clinton-social-security_55d7453be4b04ae49702ea99

AFAIK he doesn't make it a big priority because he doesn't cap benefits (which makes it essentially a wash in terms of money), plus talking about lifting the cap plays into the false idea that the program is in financial trouble.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. Or it (lifting the cap) suggests the wealthy should pay their fair share.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:20 AM
Sep 2015

Of course, it's easier to make points like that when you aren't beholden to the same moneyed interests as your opponent.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
11. The increase in FICA need not be tracked exactly by the benefit increase
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:33 AM
Sep 2015

It would still go up without limit, but that could be on a very shallow slope.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. O'Malley's still running?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:18 AM
Sep 2015

I read something else on DU yesterday that indicated Webb and Chafee are still running. Who knew. I guess that's what happens when you allow the Republicans to frame the discussion and dominate the airwaves. It's not so much the number of debates but the timing. While the clown car crazies have had 2 debates, the *first* Dem debate is still weeks away. Gee, I can't imagine why Will Rogers didn't think the Democratic Party was organized.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
15. Agreed.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:36 PM
Sep 2015

Clinton doesn't come across as genuine to many people and she does risk being called out for having close ties to seedy corporations/firms. And for her rhetoric not matching her actions. Still, she should be confident enough in her lead to not be negotiating for so few debates. She should recognize that timing matters, that allowing the Republicans to frame the discussion will only make it that much harder on her should she become the nominee. And having a debate before Biden's decision would have been smart on her part. But the DNC is somewhat of a disaster.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
13. I like it except:
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 03:44 AM
Sep 2015

'supports a minimum Social Security benefit at 125% of the Federal poverty line, so that no Senior Citizen need live in poverty.'

In many areas of the country 125% of poverty level is still poverty level. And why do we need anyone living at poverty level?

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
14. The caregiver credit is huge
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:36 AM
Sep 2015

In August, I went down to Portland to care for a friend who ended up having a bone graft out of her pelvis to put into her ankle because the bone had died. (LONG story and terrible chain of events) I spent 6 days giving her morphine every 3 hours....24 hours a day. They had realized that they fractured the pelvis when they did the bone graft so she was in excruciating pain. Day 3 or 4 I had to take her to the emergency room, because the nurse line kept saying to give it another day.

Why I am going on about this is that I was exhausted and by day 6 my brain was fuzzy by not getting sleep at more than 2 hours at a time. It is very hard work to be the care giver, imagine if you were older and frailer and trying to help a spouse to and fro to the toilet. For longer than a week.

So well done, Martin. This is one of the best ideas out there.

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