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Senator Obamas support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.
Whose racist comment was this?
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RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Blame it on youthful indiscretion.
Of course, during that same period, Andrew Cuomo, who was sort of Hillary's Claire McCaskill back then, said of Obama, "You can't shuck and jive at a press conference."
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I can't forgive or forget it.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Who can forget this little gem?
And with that classic demonstration of Clinton's general "scorched earth" policy, McCain had a wonderful talking point.
I find it more than a little ironic that some people cry "hater!" when we criticize Hillary Clinton's record and policies, suggesting that -- intentionally or not -- we are doing the work for the Republicans. Back in 2008, given the anti-Obama fodder she supplied them, Clinton might as well have been on the Republican payroll.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed Wednesday to continue her quest for the Democratic nomination, arguing she would be the stronger nominee because she appeals to a wider coalition of voters including whites who have not supported Barack Obama in recent contests.
"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.
I cannot find the Associated Press article that Clinton was citing, does anyone have a link for that?
This article: ( http://mije.org/richardprince/hard-working-white-americans ) cites this link ( http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5giZDjUrVk9p4HpVouqLhFbdtXTYAD90GG3U00 ) but gives me a 404.
Thanks.
ON edit: found it via wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080516085405/http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5giZDjUrVk9p4HpVouqLhFbdtXTYAD90GG3U00
Nowhere in that article is the phrase "working, hard-working Americans, white Americans", so that is HER own paraphrase.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)That was the phrase in the AP article, "working-class white voters." She was speaking unscripted and paraphrased "working class" as "hard-working" - So?
I'm a Bernie fan, but I think this kind of nit-picking is silliness, from either side. Nobody really believes Hillary is going to endorse racist policies. Nobody really thinks that about Bernie either. I can't believe that people are expending any energy trying to cast either of these people as enemies of PoC.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)You really want to defend that?
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)You can argue that maybe it wasn't politically correct to point it out, but it was a fact, and a relevant answer to the question asked, and does not indicate that she is racist.
Here's an article that shows that HRC's support among men has weakened.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-men-polls_560b0815e4b0768126ffb0c2
Is it misogynistic for anyone to ever mention that poll?
MineralMan
(146,298 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I'm impressed by how quickly you swoop down to contest what you perceive to be an affront or infraction.
MineralMan
(146,298 posts)Thanks for taking the time to reply to my reply.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)MineralMan
(146,298 posts)Really.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)We've all heard that story a hundred times. She demanded SoS in exchange for her and Bill's support in the General Election. He agreed to give it to her, but only after stripping it of its most volatile responsibility. Special Envoy to the Middle East would report directly to White House staff during her tenure at State. It reverted to State control after Kerry was confirmed.
Worse yet, during her tenure the White House had to distance itself from her statements on multiple occasions. She thought nothing about disagreeing with Obama in public while working for him.
I would say the details of her State experience reinforces the OP if anything.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)That is, if you are suggesting that Obama's appointment of Clinton to SoS meant the two had buried the hatchet
JFK reportedly disliked LBJ pretty intensely. The same applied to Reagan and Bush.
And, of course, Dwight Eisenhower let his true feelings about Richard Nixon leak out when asked about Nixon's input in the Eisenhower administration:
So, the point is that Presidents frequently bring their enemies into the fold. Or, as Lyndon Johnson famously put it.
It's probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in.
6chars
(3,967 posts)I had the impression they had buried the hatchet, but maybe not so much. That Eisenhower quote is hilarious -what a slam.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... Hillary hate