2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs Biden needed just to impact Sanders at the debate?
Could his sole value (discounting his appeal/track record. face it,
he's no JFK)
be in how much time and attention he could absorb during the debate,
just to diminish Bernie Sanders potential impact?
I dont think it will work, but it seems like the real reason for this particular farce.
Im sure DWS will be very amenable to whatever happens.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, I think he has a good chance of forcing her out of the race....giving Bernie a better chance of getting the nomination.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)conspiracy. But we saw the Brock conspiracy to lessen Bernie's impact. So anything is possible. That one raised over one million dollars for Bernie. Talk about unintended consequences from a conspiracy gone bad.
Btw, did Medid Matters ever correctherecord on Brock's totally embarrassing effort to earn his Big Donor pay off to his 'Super (bad) Pac'? Isn't that what they do over there? Correcttherecord?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)is some tactical ploy by elements within the DNC that want to game the outcome.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)They want an alternative to jump to when HRH craters. Which she will, just like in '08.
Two hours on stage with Martin and Bernie - who give straight answers to even the tough questions - and there will be nothing left of HRH but a pair of smoking shoes and a nebulous miasma of platitudinous and meaningless Turd Way rhetoric.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Its funny how the Biden meme swings 180 degrees from day to day.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)That will give people a chance to compare the two side by side for the first time. It might also give O'Malley a chance to gain some steam.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)this official?
And unless he is actually running this should not be allowed.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Bernie is far more engaging than both. Biden is far more engaging than Hillary. She will lose more from the debates if Biden enters.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)and a clock cleaning kit.
Left Ear
(81 posts)But I digress....
reddread
(6,896 posts)screwing up a wet dream
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Hee
Just joking...geez!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She might get tripped up on what she believes that day. We'll know when that happens when she starts that high-pitched laugh and starts speaking as though her vowels have been flattened by a Mac truck.
But, that reminds me, I need a new clock. This one will do.
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hifiguy
(33,688 posts)She is double-plus ungood as a debater. Sanders and O'Malley are very good indeed.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)How can corporate Democratic Joe offer anything in a debate that corporate Democratic Hillary won't.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)he and the dnc will look pretty foolish if he does the debate and them says naaahhh. and i still don't think he is running
reddread
(6,896 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)but to take attention and time away from Bernie and/or damage him in the debates via gang up.
Thanks for the thread, reddread.
reddread
(6,896 posts)EVERYONE knows it.
if anyone "doesnt" know by now, they dont wanna,
and CLEARLY lack the necessary spirit for a job this big.
incredible how many willing victims to this chicanery when
they should be organizing candidates and campaigns for
their own interests and the common good.
these vultures are leaders only in the sense of Judas Goats.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)That would shift the balance of the debate and the campaign conversation toward the right.
Biden provides a challenge and an opportunity for H>. Biden's entry takes up a share of everything, including available voters, making the dominance of H> look not dominant.
Still, Biden would provide an obvious ally against the message of the left, and an opportunity for H> to distance herself from Obama policy in that she can be openly against Biden without being openly against Obama.
The challenge is how to do the dance. Biden can't threaten Clinton presence on the national stage. Such a thing would likely unleash the sequel 'Petulance of the PUMA' and Biden's emotional endurance would be truly tested.