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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:40 PM Oct 2015

How Hillary Clinton’s Loyal Confidants Could Cost Her the Election

Lawyers! Aides! Advisers! No presidential candidate has ever been as defended as Hillary Clinton. As Sarah Ellison reports, the tight-lipped human wall she has raised is also a major liability.

by Sarah Ellison

I. The Praetorians

They were her darkest days yet as First Lady, though there would be far worse to come. In 1994, after her health-care-reform plan imploded and her party suffered a devastating midterm defeat, Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Maggie Williams, gathered 10 women whose opinion Clinton held dear. The group included Mandy Grunwald, senior media consultant to the president, whose ties to the Clintons went back to the 1992 campaign; Susan Thomases, who had worked as the Clintons’ personal lawyer during the campaign; and Patti Solis Doyle, Clinton’s scheduler and later the first head of her 2008 presidential campaign. Called the “Chix meeting” by one participant, the group had been getting together to discuss the First Lady’s agenda, and the conversations usually ranged widely—to media strategy, policy debates, political fights, personal lives. The off-the-record gatherings were an outgrowth of her regular staff meetings, which were scheduled for an hour but often went for two or three and into the evening. A few bottles of wine might be opened, and the women would talk about “who was dating whom, who was cute,” and “whose kids were going to the prom,” according to one of the Chix I spoke with recently. In the weeks after the midterm defeat, the meetings were “healing” ones and designed to be “nutrition for the soul,” this participant said.

During one such meeting, toward the end of 1994, Clinton walked into the room and the distress of the past weeks and months spilled out. She fought back tears, and was “quite emotional.” She told the group that she was sorry—sorry if she had let people down, sorry if she had contributed to the recent political losses, as indeed she had. The health-care overhaul, on which Bill Clinton had campaigned so hard, and which he’d handed over to Hillary upon his election, had failed spectacularly under her leadership—undercut by the insurance industry’s aggressive opposition to it, and by her secrecy and high-handedness. Clinton told the group that she was considering withdrawing from the kind of policy and political work that had defined her. “This was all my fault,” she said, according to the participant. She didn’t want to damage her husband’s administration.

Years later, in her memoir Living History, Clinton herself described this moment in trademark humblebrag style: “One by one,” she wrote, “each woman told me why I couldn’t give up or back down. Too many other people, especially women, were counting on me.” As we well know, Clinton didn’t back down. She stayed in the game and has stayed in it ever since. The anecdote as Clinton conveyed it seemed designed to make three points. First, she is not in politics to slake her own ambitions. Second, she’s a fighter. And third, if it hadn’t been for this circle of nurturing intimates, she couldn’t possibly have gone on.

Throughout her many years in public life—through all the disappointments and triumphs, the scandals real or alleged—Clinton has surrounded herself with protectors: a tightly knit Praetorian Guard, mute and loyal. The result has been the opposite of what was intended. When troubles arise—sometimes of Clinton’s own making, sometimes not—she retreats into a defensive crouch, shielding herself inside a cocoon of secrecy, with a small circle of intimates standing watch. With each new round of trouble and scandal, the circle seems to draw tighter. The penchant for secrecy—for all operations to be closely and privately held—increases by yet another increment. But this never proves to be a solution. The secrecy and the closed nature of her dealings generate problems of their own, which in turn prompt efforts to restrict information and draw even more tightly inside a group of intimates. It is a vicious circle. The current controversy over Clinton’s State Department e-mails—the use of a private “clintonemail.com” account for government business—is a classic case in point.

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http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/10/hillary-clinton-inside-circle-huma-abedin
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How Hillary Clinton’s Loyal Confidants Could Cost Her the Election (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
What a pant load! upaloopa Oct 2015 #1
Ahhh the life of the 'perpetual victim', indeed. eom Purveyor Oct 2015 #2
You treat mere survival as an accomplishment. jeff47 Oct 2015 #3
I am a survivor of the Vietnam war. upaloopa Oct 2015 #5
Yes, mean journalists are far worse than shrapnel. :eyes: jeff47 Oct 2015 #8
I am right you have a lot to learn upaloopa Oct 2015 #9
Already did. Want to point to the PTSD-inducing events in any of them? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #10
I don't to give any credence to your stuff upaloopa Oct 2015 #13
.. Purveyor Oct 2015 #12
^^^This.....nt artislife Oct 2015 #7
Precisely DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #4
that's a very important consideration for the Clinton campaign's troubles: that her defense is her MisterP Oct 2015 #6
the more childish ridicule some people use DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #11
Hillary's Team has ALREADY blown it, with their email decisions Dems to Win Oct 2015 #14

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. What a pant load!
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:27 PM - Edit history (1)

The health care that Hillary tried to get through was destroyed by the insurance lobby.
Instead of saying Hillary tried to give us all health care they say she is a failure.
Well being First Lady of Arkansas and the a United States, Secretary of State and soon to be President of the United States isn't being a failure.
Non of Hillary's critics could hold a candle to her. Most are trying to promote themselves by being the one who brought down Hillary. Guess what, she is stronger then all of them. See you can't be dumped on for the past 20 years and not learn how to survive.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. You treat mere survival as an accomplishment.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:03 PM
Oct 2015

Survival isn't hard for anyone without a pretty serious disease.

What alternative do you propose? That negative press would literally be fatal?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. I am a survivor of the Vietnam war.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:31 PM
Oct 2015

But I could not take what they constantly do to Hillary and we both have survived more than you my guess is.
You have a lot to learn

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. Precisely
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:29 PM
Oct 2015
Guess what, she is stronger than all if them


Precisely, if her detractors showed one one millionth of the intestinal fortitude she has shown in the face of attacks , dating back almost forty years, they would have ten million times the intestinal fortitude they have now.

We still live in a sexist world where words like balls, a set, stones, brass ones, cojones are used to describe the strong. One day we will come up with gender neutral, appropriate, impactful terms to describe strong women but Madame Secretary has all of them in abundance. A less strong person would have withdrawn from public life long ago.


Hillary Clinton is the embodiment of Nietzsche's musing "that which doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
6. that's a very important consideration for the Clinton campaign's troubles: that her defense is her
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:51 PM
Oct 2015

biggest problem--that all the footmen roping off reporters, the tiny "townhalls" (and the delirious dribble that "the problem with big crowds is that you can only hear yourself&quot , the slick ads--they're all turning people off the more they hear of all this and the more they hear of the alternative: and beyond style, she stands for more war (she won't let Trump out-hawk her)

on DU her "defenders" are associated with not poll numbers or policy arguments but simultaneously telling us that Clinton's the leftiest candidate in several universes and denouncing the left for its policy and its supposed role in "sabotaging" every election the party loses by saying "we'll end up passing their policies, but we're not Republican"

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
11. the more childish ridicule some people use
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:02 PM
Oct 2015

The more you know the blow struck truth.

Hillary's clique blew the election in 2008, and they can blow it again as long as they try to make Hillary more of an Empress than a president.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
14. Hillary's Team has ALREADY blown it, with their email decisions
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
Oct 2015

In December 2014, when Hillary turned over paper copies of her email to the State Dept, there were FOIA requests from the AP that had been sitting at State for five years. They were filed while Hillary was SOS.

She and her team should have responded to them at the time, making her email archivable and available for the annoying but legally necessary FOIA requests.

Instead, she pushed it off, didn't respond, didn't allow anyone at the State Department to respond. She kicked the can down the road, right smack into the middle of her Presidential campaign.

Brilliant. Just Brilliant.


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