Congressman John Lewis has endorsed Clinton

[marym625]

Last edited Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

I just got off the phone with his office. They are aware of this lie and are stating to everyone: Congressman John Lewis has not endorsed anyone

No one. Got that?


On edit Third call I spoke with Casey, who had earlier told me no, and she apologized for the information. She said he just released an official statement endorsing Clinton. That not everyone on his staff his was aware.

I have no issue with this and I have no problem correcting my post. I do take issue with being called a liar. I was told, emphatically and in no uncertain terms, "you can quote me, we are aware of the story and it is not true."

[olddots]

1. who said he was ??????????

wait wait. don't tell me

[marym625]

2. yeah, it's trending

But why bother with facts?

#FeelTheBern
#Bernie2016

[Hortensis]

52. Sorry for the blowback, Marym. He backed Hillary in 2008 before he

changed to Obama. It's no surprise if he feels it's just too early this time to commit. Hope he ends up honoring her again, though. Some endorsements matter more than others.

[Hortensis]

117. Again, here's John Lewis's 2016 ENDORSEMENT OF HRC!

"As our former Secretary of State, Senator from New York, and first Lady of the United States, Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to be President of the United States. I know her heart. We need her leadership, not just here in America, but all over the world. She is tireless in her advocacy for those who have been left out and left behind. She is ready to be President on day one. Hillary Clinton has my wholehearted endorsement, and I plan to work and campaign for her to see that she is elected the next President of the United States."

Former UN Ambassador Andrew Young also endorses Hillary Clinton. These are both lifelong activists of stature and integrity, so their endorsements say something important.

[Number23]

120. "Former UN Ambassador Andrew Young also endorses Hillary Clinton." She's really raking in

the old guard.

And she's also got Kamala Harris, Corey Booker and a slew of the young(er), black New Guard too.

This is all very interesting. I'm waiting on pins and needles to see who Obama endorses, especially now after her TPP decision. Carter too.

[Hortensis]

125. I'm kinda old guard myself. :) Won't Obama just endorse the nominee?

[Number23]

127. Well, yeah. I guess he could do that. Or he could jump in earlier.

Still curious about Carter.

[rogerashton]

3. link

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/congressman-john-lewis-endorses-hillary-clinton-n440201

[marym625]

6. where does that say he endorsed Clinton in this primary?

Call his office if you don't believe me

[msrizzo]

4. So you're saying the quoted letter is a fake? nt.

[marym625]

7. I'm saying that,

"Congressman John Lewis has not endorsed anyone in the Democratic Presidential primary"

Direct quote from his office

[Cali_Democrat]

5. John Lewis: Hillary Clinton has my wholehearted endorsement

"As our former Secretary of State, Senator from New York, and first Lady of the United States, Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to be President of the United States," said Congressman Lewis in a statement released Wednesday by the campaign.

"I know her heart. We need her leadership, not just here in America, but all over the world. She is tireless in her advocacy for those who have been left out and left behind. She is ready to be President on day one. Hillary Clinton has my wholehearted endorsement, and I plan to work and campaign for her to see that she is elected the next President of the United States."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/congressman-john-lewis-endorses-hillary-clinton-n440201

[marym625]

9. I feel like a broken record

His office is denying ANY endorsement. To quote, "Congressman Lewis has not endorsed anyone in the Democratic Presidential primary."

Call yourself and ask.

[Cali_Democrat]

14. Who did you speak to?

[marym625]

16. I called twice

Two different women. Both times I was told me he had not and that he hasn't endorsed anyone.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he does. But according to his office, he has not endorsed anyone

[ForwardMotion]

19. Maybe they mean publicly, as these endorsements usually

Come with official announcements.

[marym625]

21. I'm just repeating what I was told

Frankly, I won't be surprised no matter who he eventually endorses. But 2 phone calls to his office I got the same answer.

[Cali_Democrat]

44. I think somebody gave you a bogus phone number

I hope you didn't give them any personal information.

[marym625]

73. it was his office

I have edited my post.

[oasis]

12. Hmmm..NBC News or a biased DU Bernie supporter?

Who to believe?

[Metric System]

8. His office may not be aware, but it appears to be true regardless.

[Pauldg47]

87. You use the word "appears", so you are not sure !!!!

[JI7]

10. you may have called the wrong member

[ForwardMotion]

11. There's also this:

POSTCARD FROM THE NEW YORKER FESTIVAL – Daniel reports: In a Q&A moderated by editor David Remnick, Rep. John Lewis told a midtown crowd Sunday when asked about racism and 2016: “I’m not going to call anyone a racist … but their ideas and their thoughts and some of the words they use remind me of some of the people I dealt with in the fifties and the sixties.”Remnick: “I’m going to take that as a yes answer.”

--What would happen if Joe Biden enters the race: “I would still be committed to Hillary. I love Joe Biden. But it’s time for a woman".

This was just this past Sunday.

[Ichigo Kurosaki]

47. "But it’s time for a woman"

is a lousy reason and I can already see the writing on the wingnut sites over that comment.

[HooptieWagon]

13. He announced his support for Clinton back in August.

So it's not even breaking news. What may be confusing his office staff is perhaps a developing situation as in '07, when Rep Lewis initially endorsed Clinton and later withdrew that endorsement and endorsed Obama.

[trumad]

15. Can you provide the number you called

So I can verify as well.

[marym625]

18. right from his website

202-225-3801

[840high]

17. Thank you.

[trumad]

22. I just called the number you provided.

They said he absolutely is endorsing her.

Why you fibbing?

[ForwardMotion]

23. BOMBSHELL!

[marym625]

24. I'm not fibbing!

I called 2x. I spoke to 2 different women. They both said he was not endorsing anyone yet

Why would I give you the number of what I said wasn't true?

[trumad]

26. Well you're wrong

Major news organizations have reported it and now you have the word of Trumad.

[Scootaloo]

27. The people you spoke to appear to have been wrong.

[JI7]

32. i think because of the calls they decided to ask someone more higher up

And just found out that he actually had endorsed.

[jeff47]

43. The staff probably hadn't been told the announcement had been made

so they were giving you what had been the official answer before the announcement.

[senz]

75. That makes sense.

[hrmjustin]

25. Just got through and he is endorsing her.

The person talking to you probably didn't know.

[marym625]

28. I called twice

If that's true, and I will now call a third time, then they're not getting the information to their people. I was even told "we're aware of the article and we're getting many calls and he has not endorsed anyone"

[hrmjustin]

30. I believe you. This is likely just breaking.

[trumad]

31. Well I think it's time you correct your Op

Or delete it..because it's incorrect.

[still_one]

41. don't worry about it. It is usual for those answering calls not to be up to date. If he endorsed

Hillary, fine. Bernie has, and will get endorsements also.

In the short course of time it will come out

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I have been a member since 2003 and I have never seen a calumny of this magnitude.

eom

[trumad]

33. calumny

I had to google that.

[hrmjustin]

34. I think this is a mix up of the office, not the poster.

I take the poster at her word.

[trumad]

35. So do I

Time to delete the Op or delete it.

[hrmjustin]

36. Agreed it should be self deleted.

[still_one]

39. People answering the calls are many times not up to date with the latest information. No surprise

here as far as I am concerned

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. She inadvertently called out DemocratSinceBirth and questioned his integrity

She inadvertently called out DemocratSinceBirth and questioned his integrity:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251654332


Where do he go to get his reputation back?

[jeff47]

45. And less than a week ago you were pressing for people to tone down the rhetoric.

Guess that didn't last long, huh?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. The unedited post made me look like a liar or a fool:

The unedited post made me look like a liar or a fool:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251654332


And everybody who recommended the thread seconded that emotion...I fight hard but I fight fair...I am truly hurt at the suggestion that so many people think I am a liar.

[jeff47]

53. And?

If you are interested in toning down the rhetoric, you could post something like "it looks like the word had not been passed to the staff yet". Because that's a very common occurrence - the interns answering the phones are going to be the last to hear.

But you're not.

You made an OP asking everyone to calm down. So do what you asked everyone else to do.

[trumad]

57. Are you fucking serious.

The dude was basically called a liar.

[jeff47]

67. And?

Guess what? I've been called a liar. You've been called a liar. Everyone on this board who has made more than 3 posts has been called a liar.

So fucking what?

[trumad]

69. So the Pp crying because she was called a liar is hilarious.

[jeff47]

76. Do you really want me to bother googling for every time you called someone a liar?

Or do you want to behave like adults and realize people make honest mistakes?

[trumad]

78. Delete the Op

That's all I'm asking her.

[jeff47]

81. Why bury the mistake instead of owning up to it?

Deleting is worse than editing. It's hiding your mistakes instead of owning up to them.

[trumad]

83. Oh I see

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. One time I made a huge but honest mistake in attribution. I asked the admins ...

One time I made a huge but honest mistake in attribution and it got a lot of responses quickly. I asked the administrators to make the whole thread disappear and they did.


It would be best for the OP to do that, for her, for me, and for everybody.

I am over it now but when I first saw it I was really hurt. How would anybody feel?

[trumad]

66. Bet she don't

[jeff47]

74. They would feel not much.

Do you want to see the pile of shit thrown at my inbox by posters who are on forced vacations?
Do you want to see the pile of posts where people have called me a liar over and over and over again in a single thread? I think Sabrina1's record is about 20 replies in one subthread.

Do you know how much of it pisses me off? None.

It's the Internet. People are going to call you names. Just like everywhere else on the planet.

As for deleting, that's worse than editing. It is making your mistake disappear instead of owning up to it.

[trumad]

80. Well were you lying?

[jeff47]

84. Nope. (nt)

[trumad]

85. You sure?

[jeff47]

89. Yep.

But I really think you should make this outrage the cornerstone of all of your posts for the next 3 months. It shows just who you are.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

88. i disagree...

As for deleting, that's worse than editing. It is making your mistake disappear instead of owning up to it.

If the mistake was not malicious in nature I have no problem in making it disappear.

[jeff47]

93. Making the mistake disappear makes the correction disappear too. (nt)

[MADem]

118. NO. An apology needs to come from the person who did the maligning.

And then this hot mess of a thread should be self-deleted.

That would "calm everyone down."

The person who was wronged was the one who was personally insulted, not the one who 'inadvertently' did the insulting.

[jeff47]

119. You resurrected a thread to demand people calm down?

Kinda looks like you're trying to do the opposite.

Again.

And again

And again

And again....

[MADem]

121. What is that you're doing? I followed a brand new link here, I didn't look at timestamps.

Really--pot call kettle!

[jeff47]

122. I'm responding to "My Posts" lighting up. Because you decided this thread needed more rage.

You could, you know, drop it as the aggrieved party already did.

[MADem]

123. No, I clicked a link that the thread starter put in another post and it brought me here.

The thread starter could close this down with a final post, lock the thread and let it sink.

Much better solution than leaving it to bubble up again and again.

[trumad]

55. Exactly..

I'm getting shit for pointing this out.

And of course the Op is still not deleted because hey...why screw up an agenda.

[Ed Suspicious]

110. WHY DO YOU DOUBLE?

WHY DO YOU DOUBLE?

[Walk away]

126. It only made you look like a liar and a fool to people foolish enough to believe....

a rabid fan who couldn't accept reality and had to desperately attempt to discredit you. This should not surprise you but I am sorry it upset you.

[hrmjustin]

46. .

[oasis]

49. Your word is still as good as gold around these parts.

Keep on truckin'.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

54. I have calmed down a bit and don't want to raise the ante...

I have calmed down a bit and don't want to raise the ante but how would another poster feel if they posted something and another poster started a thread that it was a lie and it received over a dozen recommends in five or so minutes.

[oasis]

63. A sign of the times.

I'm sure the vast majority of those recommends were registered by the usual suspects.

[marym625]

70. I repeated exactly what his office told me.

"Lie" was used.

I have kicked and rec'd enough of your stuff for you to know that I wasn't calling you a liar. I was saying that the story was a lie, which is what I was told.

I apologize for my words reading that I thought you were a liar.

I have updated my post. I did not lie. I was, I believe, told the first time by someone that didn't know because she called it a lie, and misled the second time because the official statement had not been made.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

79. It's over now...

Random points:

Since I was the author of the original thread I felt bad...

It certainly gave the appearance that I was a liar or a fool.

I hope nobody in his office gets in trouble.

There is so much we don't know but it seems the appropriate answer should have been "we are unaware of any endorsement."

I wish this whole thread could disappear into the ether.

[marym625]

90. I didn't delete because I felt that was cowardly

However, if it makes you feel better, I will request what you talked about. Tell me how you did that and I will

[DemocratSinceBirth]

97. Sure...

It's okay , Mary. Regardless of your intention I was put in a bad light.

It's all over now...

PEACE

[marym625]

99. Thank you

Peace

[trumad]

82. Time to delete the Op

[Skidmore]

37. It is probably time to take this thread down

and own that an error was made. Repetition will not make it so.

[still_one]

38. I am sure you have seen the NBC links in your thread which says the contrary. However, my comment

regards your assumption that the person answering calls for a particular senator or congress person is always up to date where their representative or senator is on an issue, and at least in my experience that is not always the case. I suspect that is the situation here. The information has not trickled down to the person answering the phone yet.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/congressman-john-lewis-endorses-hillary-clinton-n440201

[ForwardMotion]

40. True. It's probably a 19 year old in college answering phones.

[tammywammy]

48. You should delete this thread, and apologize to DemocratSinceBirth. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

95. I greatly appreciate all my defenders in this thread.

But after taking a deep breath my fervent desire is all this unpleasantness goes away.


John Lewis endorsing Hillary and his office being unaware of it aren't mutually exclusive propositions but it put me in a very bad light, nonetheless...

[trumad]

51. Oh please

You used the word lie when you disputed the story. You called out some folks defending your misinformation.

You should delete this Op because it's bullshit.

[MindfulOne]

58. Will you delete your POS fresh OP calling her a liar?

Will you?

[trumad]

60. Already corrected.

But yeah...sure.

[mythology]

56. Thanks for updating your post

I think people are far too quick to use the word liar, especially given how high emotions have been running. Where something is breaking news (if an endorsement can be considered breaking by itself) it takes a while to get all the correct information to everybody.

[trumad]

59. The fucking Op used the word lie.

Update hell...it should be deleted.

[senz]

61. Thank God that good man is NOT endorsing Hillary Clinton.

I really love this guy. My heart sank when I saw the OP title.

[trumad]

64. Uh he is.

Op has been edited to note that. Forget the first paragraph .

[senz]

72. Yeah, just saw that. What a shame.

Really sorry to know that. I wonder what his reasoning was? Sure hope no one twisted his arm.

[Lisa D]

102. No one twists John Lewis's arm.

You might want to learn something about this truly, great man.

Here's a good place to start: http://www.democraticunderground.com/118728814

[senz]

106. I know all about this great man, Lisa D

Been a fan for years. Maybe your glasses need cleaning. Now back off.

[Number23]

114. Thanks for trying, Lisa. But anyone that thinks that John Lewis "had his arm twisted" to endorse

anyone or anything has shown their utter ignorance of the man and more than likely everything he's ever done.

[lunamagica]

112. Does this sound like his arm is being twisted?

As our former Secretary of State, Senator from New York, and first Lady of the United States, Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to be President of the United States," said Congressman Lewis in a statement released Wednesday by the campaign.

"I know her heart. We need her leadership, not just here in America, but all over the world. She is tireless in her advocacy for those who have been left out and left behind. She is ready to be President on day one. Hillary Clinton has my wholehearted endorsement, and I plan to work and campaign for her to see that she is elected the next President of the United States."

Do you doubt his sincerity here?

[Pauldg47]

94. I agree.....

....I would be baffled if this is true....this has to be dis- information !!

[Bobbie Jo]

65. Glad you corrected.

Gotta say, I wasn't too crazy about the spirit in which this post was delivered.

"They are aware of this lie"

"Got that?"

Seems like a failed gotcha moment to me. That you're taking offense at this point is a bit much.

Again, I'm glad you corrected. Perhaps you should have left it at that.

[trumad]

68. LOL

Good post.

[marym625]

86. as I stated, I was quoting

I could delete but that's dishonest. I posted exactly what I was told, more than once, by his office.

I apologized to DSB, but evidently, that's not enough either

I'm not a coward. I'm not lying. I'm pretty unhappy with John Lewis' office staff but I believe, at least the first person I spoke with, had no idea that an official endorsement was coming,

[Cali_Democrat]

71. Please apologize to fellow DUer DemocratSinceBirth. nt

[trumad]

77. She won't

Double down and dig in.

[marym625]

92. wow

You're something else

[senz]

96. They can't help it. Pity them and move on.

It's just noise.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

108. She did. She's fine.

Time to put all this unpleasantness behind us.

[senz]

91. It's not your fault that you were misled, marym.

If there's no penalty, it might be best to delete the thread. If there is, you could simply change the title. Sorry some have launched into reflexive attack mode, but that's who they are.

This could happen to anyone.

[marym625]

98. I did change the title

I didn't delete because I didn't think it was right

I posted what his office said. They were either wrong because they didn't know (which I believe the first person genuinely didn't know) or weren't allowed to say before the official announcement.

[senz]

104. Well that should satisfy them.

If not, they're just itching for a fight, as usual. Got the DU poison ivy.

"Yur gonna need an ocean
of calamine lotion..."

[marym625]

105. .

[Pauldg47]

100. This is bullshit unless Clinton and he are great buds and can't pull away....

.....Mr. Lewis; please be the man that you have shown us ????!!!!!

[beam me up scottie]

101. Good on you, marym625!

It's not surprising that this was confusing to Lewis' office considering he endorsed her months ago.

The new bombshell press release probably took them by surprise too.

[DCBob]

103. Why would you even doubt the story in the first place?

Lewis is known to have supported Hillary in the past. Odd you would even go through the effort to call.

[BlueMTexpat]

107. Thanks for your graciousness in

admitting your mistake, especially as the news of the endorsement must have disappointed you!

[billhicks76]

109. Yawn

[DFW]

111. I had no idea, and don't really care, but....

I applaud you for sticking to an effort to find out. I remember the shit I got in 2008 when I broke the news that Biden was Obama's pick for VP. Back then, I couldn't reveal my source without getting some people in trouble, so I refused to say how I knew, and MAN did I catch shit on DU. "How do YOU know? LINK???? Why would YOU know before the press had it? What makes YOU so special? Yeah, you wish! etc etc etc etc etc." And here I thought the people on DU would have been happy to know in advance of the announcement. Hah!!

Exactly ONE poster apologized after the announcement came, so you're well ahead of the game!

[Autumn]

113. It's not a surprise at all. He supported her in her the last time she ran and he said last week

it was time for a woman or something like that. No big deal, people who answer the phones aren't always in the know.

[azmom]

115. You did nothing wrong. They gave you

Wrong information. It could have happened to anyone.

[SidDithers]

116. Maybe you got called a liar, because you called the original, correct story, a lie...nt

Sid

[AtomicKitten]

124. I got the same misdirect from their office. Very classy of you to retract.

[NCTraveler]

128. "I do take issue with being called a liar."

Then you shouldn't go around calling people telling the truth liars. Talking to a staffer and then going off on a tangent isn't what I would call thorough. People in the other op were telling you the truth and provided multiple links to back it up. You called it a lie because of what someone told you. It's clear who had the information correct.