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Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:25 PM

Hillary Clinton Interrupted By Immigration Protester Over Private Prison Donations

Hillary Clinton was interrupted by an immigration protester while presenting an award to chef Jose Andres at the annual Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute gala in Washington, D.C. on Thursday.
Holding up a sign that read “Hillary for immigrants in prisons,” Juan Carlos Ramos of the advocacy organization United We Dream Action stood near the stage, yelling at Clinton as she spoke over him. Ramos was protesting Clinton accepting donations from corporations that run private prisons.
Ramos told BuzzFeed News he was chanting “Hillary we’re watching. My deportation will be your funding.”
“Our message to Hillary Clinton is simple: Immigrant youth do not trust you,” Ramos, who was swiftly removed from the event, said in an earlier statement. “It is time to drop the prison money and stand with our community — you can’t have it both ways.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/hillary-clinton-interrupted-by-immigration-protester-over-pr#.rvK0g9j6z

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azmom Oct 2015 OP
jkbRN Oct 2015 #1
GummyBearz Oct 2015 #3
jkbRN Oct 2015 #4
DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #2
Fairgo Oct 2015 #36
Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #5
askew Oct 2015 #6
Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #7
senz Oct 2015 #10
Fumesucker Oct 2015 #8
Fairgo Oct 2015 #38
senz Oct 2015 #9
Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #11
oasis Oct 2015 #12
Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #13
oasis Oct 2015 #14
Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #16
oasis Oct 2015 #17
azmom Oct 2015 #28
LettuceSea Oct 2015 #26
artislife Oct 2015 #24
TM99 Oct 2015 #30
oasis Oct 2015 #32
TM99 Oct 2015 #33
oasis Oct 2015 #35
frylock Oct 2015 #34
mwrguy Oct 2015 #15
LettuceSea Oct 2015 #29
oasis Oct 2015 #37
oasis Oct 2015 #39
Segami Oct 2015 #18
in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #19
LettuceSea Oct 2015 #20
azmom Oct 2015 #21
artislife Oct 2015 #25
99Forever Oct 2015 #22
LettuceSea Oct 2015 #23
99Forever Oct 2015 #27
azmom Oct 2015 #31

Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:35 PM

1. Good on Juan Carlos Ramos!

Accepting money from the private prison industry is insanely unethical, especially when she is trying to portray herself as pro-immigration & racial justice.

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Response to jkbRN (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:40 PM

3. She was for private prison industry in the past

 

Most recently she is against it. This is how she works. She thinks switching positions will give her a "high ground" when questioned. Some people here agree with her tactics.

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Response to GummyBearz (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:44 PM

4. I don't.

She will fail the American people and their families. I have zero trust in her rhetoric. Actions speak louder than words. If she were a real candidate, and really believed in what she said she would not accept these donations and have them returned.

But yes, I totally agree with you, MANY people here fall for her MANY facades.

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:40 PM

2. Removed from the event? What?

 

I know I've read right here in these pages that when a politician is interrupted on stage, the politician's job is to stop talking and listen to whatever the interrupter has to say. At the same time, I'm pretty sure we're not going to discover anything about Juan Carlos Ramos's dumbass Sarah Palin phase, since I'm pretty sure he never had one.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:37 PM

36. interesting...

I remember Obama making space for someone to say their peace, and responding as a human being would. I think it is the better road for one who wishes to lead to show deference to dissenting voices. Fault lines tend to form around that which is ignored and suppressed.

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:48 PM

5. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, azmom.

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:49 PM

6. Good for Ramos. Hillary is a hypocrite on immigration reform.

She attacked Obama from the right on immigration in 2007-08. She made horrible comments about illegal immigrants in her Senate re-election. She wanted to send child refugees back to Latin America without due process in 2014 even the ones who were fleeing from the horrible Honduras government that she propped up as SoS. She gets money from private prisons. Her immigration plan is all just vague talking points. She doesn't address many of the real issues involved - Operation Streamline, for-profit prisons, etc.

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:50 PM

7. So does this mean Hillary has a Latino problem now?

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:57 PM

10. Of course it does. Isn't that how it works?

 

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:52 PM

8. A double standard is infinitely superior to no standard at all

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:38 PM

38. Twice as good!

I do maths.

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:53 PM

9. Our Hillary Group said she can't help who bundles her ill-gotten funds.

 

She should have had them take this rude fellow aside and tell him what's what.

Lotta nerve, complaining about "private prisons"!

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:20 PM

11. She spoke over him? Now that's just rude. I guess she needs to work on her listening skills.

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:30 PM

12. The honoree, Chef Jose Andreas is due proper respect and

recognition for his accomplishments. Hill was making a presentation, not giving a speech.

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Response to oasis (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:44 PM

13. So captured migrants suffering lengthy stays in private prisons don't deserve respect?

 

They don't deserve a voice?

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:48 PM

14. Their day is coming, this was Andres' day. You do understand?

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Response to oasis (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:55 PM

16. Do you understand sometimes people disrupt events because that's the only way to be heard

 

Awards ceremonies are hardly any more important than this

Overcrowded, unsanitary conditions seen at immigrant detention centers
Facing growing controversy over reports of crowded and unsanitary conditions, Border Patrol officials on Wednesday provided the first limited public access to the two facilities, allowing reporters on brief, controlled tours for glimpses of children and a few mothers detained there at the end of their often long journeys from places as far away as Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

In Arizona, most were corralled behind chain-link fences topped with razor wire, huddling for warmth on plastic mats under flimsy metallic Mylar blankets. A television was suspended from the ceiling. Banks of portable toilets served as sanitary facilities. Beside a recreation area, a camouflage tarp had been strung up to shield temporary showers.

In Brownsville, the group included young mothers, many of whom looked exhausted. Some of the children looked dazed or stared blankly from the cells, while others waved and smiled. Many slept.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-texas-immigrant-children-20140618-story.html






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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:08 AM

17. I'm sorry for their plight, however, Andreas' and his family

Who were most likely in the audience, should not have to have his moment ruined because a disruptor choose to do this at this particular time.

The ills of society will plague humankind until the end of time.

The disruptive actions of the activist had far more an impact on the Andreas family than it did in furthering his cause.

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Response to oasis (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:45 PM

28. The ills of society will plague humankind

Until the end of time? Your insensitivity is astonishing. I just don't know what to say to you.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:36 PM

26. Thank you for posting those sad photos. Some people don't get it because it doesn't impact them.

It's simple...

If that was your family, your relatives in those inhumane conditions, why the hell would you vote for a candidate who will help it continue?

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Response to oasis (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:32 PM

24. But when?

 

Find out how long they have been waiting. Find out how they are waiting.

Too sad for tears.

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Response to oasis (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:03 PM

30. Really?

 

You mean like at a Social Security event in, say, Seattle, where an honored Senator was to give one of many presentations on the topic at hand?

You mean it would be disrespectful to interrupt that for the purposes of valid activism?

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Response to TM99 (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:02 PM

32. Comparing apples to oranges. (eom)

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Response to oasis (Reply #32)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:35 PM

33. No, just pointing out

 

some people's hypocrisy.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #33)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:07 PM

35. If you care to check any of my posts back then

you'll find I was highly critical of the actions of BLM at both Bernie events.

So you can point your finger of hypocrisy elsewhere.

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Response to oasis (Reply #32)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 05:04 PM

34. True. Nobody demanded #bowdownhillary

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:54 PM

15. She's a huge beneficiary of the prison-industrial complex

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:01 PM

29. That's ok, as long as she is a Democrat!

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Response to LettuceSea (Reply #29)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:37 PM

37. Her Democratic Party credentials exceed 99% of anyone posting

here, that's for damn sure. She's got a ton of party endorsements to prove it. But you already know that.

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:50 PM

39. Huge beneficiary?

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:33 AM

18. K&R!

 

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:50 AM

19. Wait...why didn't she give him the microphone and let him take over the stage and event? Hillary

must hate immigrants. She talked over him? HOW RUDE!!!! How dare she not let him speak his mind!!!

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Response to azmom (Original post)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:58 AM

20. This won't go away any time soon. GOPs #1 weapon in keeping votes we need at home

If an AA or Hispanic voter stays at home because of this, I honestly cannot blame them. P4P is modern day slavery.

HRC, and our party, really screwed up by letting this P4P cancer into the party. No one's fault but our own.

They better diffuse this NOW as opposed to later. Learn from the email mess, don't let this linger!

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Response to LettuceSea (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:01 AM

21. We aren't staying home. We will be voting for

Bernie.

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Response to azmom (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:34 PM

25. Right with you, hermana!

 

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Response to LettuceSea (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:06 AM

22. I never "stay home." Fuck that.

I do however vote my conscience.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:29 PM

23. If HRC is the nominee...

My conscience may tell me to stay at home.

I'm not from the "everyone get in line and do what you're told" generation. That's for sheep.

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Response to LettuceSea (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:41 PM

27. Certainly your option if you chose.

There are others. I chose one of them.

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Response to LettuceSea (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:05 PM

31. It would be very hard for me

To cast a vote for Hillary. Working my ass off not to see her as our nominee.

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