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demwing

(16,916 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:47 AM Oct 2015

Hillary Adopts New Look to Appeal to Youth



Hillary adopts new ‘goth’ look to appeal to youth
October 7, 2015 By thedandygoat

Clinton showcased her new look at an event in Iowa on Wednesday, speaking at a 4-H club while dressed in an Edwardian corset, a lacy black dress, knee-high studded boots and a variety of occult jewelry.

“Look around, my fellow Americans, and you’ll see that everything is in a state of decay,” Clinton said. “The only certainty in life is death, and it is death we must espouse if we are to live fully.”

<snip>

When asked what advantage she has over her Democratic rivals, Clinton pointed to the two terms she served in the Senate, experience she gained while heading the State Department, and her mint-condition collection of all 13 albums released by the Cure.

“Bernie, Joe [Biden], Martin [O’Malley], Larry [Lessig], they’re all dead, but they don’t even know it yet,” she said. “Even worse, they are mundane. They bore me.”

A spokesperson for the Clinton 2016 campaign insists that while the transformation may appear to be a cheap political stunt, it actually reflects the candidate’s deepest — and until recently, most secret — beliefs.

http://dandygoat.com/hillary-adopts-new-goth-look-to-appeal-to-youth


Now tell me, who here didn't see this coming?

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Hillary Adopts New Look to Appeal to Youth (Original Post) demwing Oct 2015 OP
LOL! Satire is funny... HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #1
I knew it!!! Autumn Oct 2015 #2
Bwah! bigwillq Oct 2015 #3
Well, why not? Ino Oct 2015 #4
OMG! The Lime Green Pant-Suit demwing Oct 2015 #5
That is absolutely cringe worthy MissDeeds Oct 2015 #9
Bwah! Good thing I didn't have coffee in my mouth when I saw that! kath Oct 2015 #6
I like. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #7
The vehemence normally reserved for Republicans olddots Oct 2015 #8
With all other things weighed equally demwing Oct 2015 #14
LOL! I wonder what Bernie would look like as a goth... Or Donald Trump... backscatter712 Oct 2015 #10
I encourage you to go for it! demwing Oct 2015 #16
! whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #11
Now the wingeish sophomoric humor to go along with wingerish criticisms, the right is desperate uponit7771 Oct 2015 #12
Hillary is the right. TransitJohn Oct 2015 #41
Lol... This isn't close to reality uponit7771 Oct 2015 #49
... TransitJohn Oct 2015 #84
Neither is your chart factual on her current stances uponit7771 Oct 2015 #87
And we come full circle!!! demwing Oct 2015 #89
Pathetic workinclasszero Oct 2015 #13
You realize that this was quoted from off site, right? demwing Oct 2015 #15
If Bernie fans here or elsewhere have to resort to grade school garbage like this workinclasszero Oct 2015 #17
This was just fun, don't be so serious demwing Oct 2015 #21
It's just a joke, why get bent out of shape? 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #79
Yes, an offsite that brags: procon Oct 2015 #32
It's SATIRE demwing Oct 2015 #38
There's good satire, and there's bad. procon Oct 2015 #58
It's social commentary on how women make 77 cents on the dollar compared to their male counterparts. frylock Oct 2015 #68
I think you missed that they are making fun of the wage gap mythology Oct 2015 #43
And the wage gap is between men and...what? procon Oct 2015 #62
We’d like to have women write for us, really. frylock Oct 2015 #69
Wait...I get it! You don't understand what "goth" is, right? demwing Oct 2015 #72
Catch up. procon Oct 2015 #75
OK. So explain your comment demwing Oct 2015 #76
If clarity was a genuine concern, there was a time to ask, procon Oct 2015 #78
OK. You've got nothing. demwing Oct 2015 #83
Seemed like more of a social commentary on misogynism and sexism to me. frylock Oct 2015 #67
Hate Hate hate pangaia Oct 2015 #26
I know it seems alien, but some of us are actually capable of laughing at jokes. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #65
I wondered when this was going to show up here at DU! m-lekktor Oct 2015 #18
I thought it was amusing, even being a Clinton supporter Godhumor Oct 2015 #19
Thanks, that's the spirit I wanted to bring demwing Oct 2015 #20
"They" don't get it. pangaia Oct 2015 #29
"Bernie, Joe , Martin , Larry " - that's BETTER than funny - MH1 Oct 2015 #88
Mabye you can hale a little talk with 'workingclasszero.' :>)) pangaia Oct 2015 #28
I always try to have a sense of humor about these things Godhumor Oct 2015 #34
Why didn't you do it about Bernie. Now's ok. juajen Oct 2015 #71
Me? pangaia Oct 2015 #73
Snort! demwing Oct 2015 #77
The first thing I thought of was hifiguy Oct 2015 #22
conformist FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #23
If you want to be a non-conformist, you have to dress like us and listen to the same music we do. nt backscatter712 Oct 2015 #66
"Individuality is a wonderful thing hifiguy Oct 2015 #86
As a woman, I don't think that's funny.... Stellar Oct 2015 #24
OK. Don't see what your being a woman has to do with this... demwing Oct 2015 #25
I am not a woman and I think it is funny. pangaia Oct 2015 #30
That much was obvious is your remarks; no further explanation was needed. nt procon Oct 2015 #37
It appeared to polk jokes on Hillary as a woman, Stellar Oct 2015 #50
Polk jokes? jberryhill Oct 2015 #55
That's kinda what my first impression was too. procon Oct 2015 #27
I don't see anything cheap, lowbrow, misogynistic or sexist pangaia Oct 2015 #31
I'm quite sure you don't. leftofcool Oct 2015 #33
Considering the source clearly boasts that is their point of view; procon Oct 2015 #36
That is clearly a dig AGAINST wage inequality demwing Oct 2015 #40
I don't either and I'm female. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #44
hear, hear! nt Stellar Oct 2015 #51
As a woman I think it's hilarious. Autumn Oct 2015 #47
Bernie with black hair and tattoos....still not funny. Stellar Oct 2015 #53
Wait - this offends you tularetom Oct 2015 #56
Do you really think the criticism is about clothing? procon Oct 2015 #60
I don't have a clue what the criticism is about - I'm not the one who was offended by the OP tularetom Oct 2015 #61
Twice the pity. nt procon Oct 2015 #64
Typical tasteless junk. But, I am never surprised. leftofcool Oct 2015 #35
I'm sitting in an Enoteca in Rome, having a glass or two of wine.. brooklynite Oct 2015 #39
la tee da questionseverything Oct 2015 #42
. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #45
Lol!! darkangel218 Oct 2015 #81
Please do go. We love it when you attend these things and bring us news. leftofcool Oct 2015 #46
Meh... Autumn Oct 2015 #48
God almighty. Puglover Oct 2015 #54
Ahahahahahahaha... frylock Oct 2015 #70
Meh treestar Oct 2015 #52
Yeah, but maybe not so much in a corset and ripped clothes. Rose Siding Oct 2015 #59
Wait! Isn't that Elvira? RKP5637 Oct 2015 #57
Hilvira? demwing Oct 2015 #74
Hilvira bigwillq Oct 2015 #80
Yep!!! RKP5637 Oct 2015 #82
OMG hifiguy Oct 2015 #85
Ahhhh satire predicated on misogyny. BooScout Oct 2015 #63
The new spontaneity! Too funny lol. n/t Catherina Oct 2015 #90
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
5. OMG! The Lime Green Pant-Suit
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:08 PM
Oct 2015

from the article:

“Long before she was a grandmother in a lime-green pantsuit building up her foreign policy credentials, Hillary Clinton was an angry young outsider who despised the conformity of her peers,” one staffer said.


http://dandygoat.com/hillary-adopts-new-goth-look-to-appeal-to-youth
 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
9. That is absolutely cringe worthy
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:31 PM
Oct 2015

The gentleman to her right looks like he's trying to choke back a barf.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
8. The vehemence normally reserved for Republicans
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:22 PM
Oct 2015

has been applied to Hillary .This is either the Democratic party unraveling or H.R.C.'s doing..Are our reactions overdone for net communication grandiosity or genuine ?
My problem with her is that she is easy to make fun of and fast at getting defensive which isn't a good trait for a leader .It could be said that she has the weight of the injustice to all women on her shoulders ,its true but that injustice has not been applyed by all men especially men trying to progress .

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
14. With all other things weighed equally
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:50 PM
Oct 2015

the simplest answer is generally the correct answer.

In this case, the simplest answer is that Hillary has earned a measure of the hard time that she gets, and the rest is exaggeration. The article I quoted is CLEARLY satirical-not mean spirited, but also proves the point that these memes don't just exist on DU. Other people see her the same way that some DUers do.



 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. Pathetic
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:47 PM
Oct 2015

Well I guess we can except lots of this hateful junior high crap as it becomes more apparent everyday that Bernie has reached his peak and is sinking fast.

Proceed Bernie fans.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
15. You realize that this was quoted from off site, right?
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:52 PM
Oct 2015

It's convenient for you to pretend this is all about Bernie supporters on DU, but other people see her in the same light.

Feel free to clutch at pearls though...

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
17. If Bernie fans here or elsewhere have to resort to grade school garbage like this
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:00 PM
Oct 2015

you and your candidate have already lost the argument.

So its from offsite but a Bernie fan brought it here for all you people to chuckle over, whats the diff?

I wouldnt alert on this though, lets let everyone see the moral superiority of Bernie backers who think ridiculous crap like this is funny.

I'm sure Bernie himself would be ashamed of having stuff like this done in his name.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
21. This was just fun, don't be so serious
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:21 PM
Oct 2015

I knew it would ruffle some feathers, but you're taking it too personally

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
79. It's just a joke, why get bent out of shape?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:25 PM
Oct 2015

There's apt to be a lot more satire pointed at Hilary than there is at Bernie, what with her being more famous and more popular and all.

You just have to roll with it.

procon

(15,805 posts)
32. Yes, an offsite that brags:
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:18 AM
Oct 2015

"Our team consists only of men. We’d like to have women write for us, really. It’s just that we’re so cash-strapped that we’d only be able to pay them 77 cents for every dollar the rest of us earn."


Thats for sharing their wonderfully misogynistic and sexist views of strong, assertive women.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
38. It's SATIRE
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:45 AM
Oct 2015

The piece had nothing to do with Hillary being a woman, if it did I would not have posted it, and if you believe what the authors if a SATIRE sight say about themselves, then you'll probably also believe the following:

Meet Bernie Cruz of the Green Tea Party



http://dandygoat.com/meet-bernie-cruz-of-the-green-tea-party

What happens when Tea Party favorite Sen. Ted Cruz and Sen. Bernie “Southpaw” Sanders get struck by lightning during a total eclipse — and fuse into one grotesque presidential contender? Bernie Cruz of the Green Tea Party, that’s what. If elected, he promises to:

Distribute free guns to every illegal immigrant

“No one, regardless of immigration status, should be deprived of the right to a firearm.”

Build a 2000-mile-long wall of usable compost along the U.S.-Mexico border

“The most eco-friendly way to secure the border is with a 15-foot-high wall of rotting food and other organic matter that no one in his right mind would try to sneak over. As a bonus, it can be used to fertilize farmland on both sides.”

Defend traditional gay marriage

“The federal government must not infringe on sacred institutions in states like Massachusetts and California that have traditionally allowed same-sex couples to marry.”

Award extra funding to federal agencies that successfully cut their budgets

“With a yearly deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars and more than $18 trillion in total debt, the U.S. government needs to cut its spending. Let’s encourage federal agencies to cut costs by offering them a powerful incentive: more green stuff.”

Empower schoolchildren with vouchers to choose their own birth control

“Students today are getting stuck with a narrow range of rubbers and pills paid for by cash-strapped municipal governments. It’s time for Washington to empower these kids with vouchers redeemable at local drugstores for whatever colorful condom, fun pill or awesome IUD they want.”

Scrap the Department of Education; create the Department of Re-education

“The Department of Education is an expensive, useless entity that is largely to blame for the mess of Common Core as well as the trillion dollars of student debt that is crippling college graduates. It’s time to scrap this monument to waste and build a bigger, better Department of Re-Education that can provide a real national, uniform curriculum to brainwash the youth.”

Reduce carbon emissions by forbidding politicians and activists from traveling to climate change summits

“Carbon emissions are disrupting climate patterns and causing polar and glacial ice melt, droughts, hurricanes and other pernicious events. If politicians and top environmental activists who travel the world in private jets to give long-winded talks would instead take buses, ride bicycles or get off their asses and walk, global carbon emissions could be cut by 15 percent. Remember: every time President Obama takes Air Force One to a climate change summit, a fairy in the melting polar region of Greenland dies.”

Build a massive pipeline to transport Vermont maple syrup all the way to Texas and beyond

“Everybody loves Vermont’s maple syrup — nutrient-packed, natural and delicious. Yet people in other parts of the country pay a big price for this sweet delight to be shipped to them in gas-guzzling semi trucks, polluting the environment and causing people in places like Texas to turn to unhealthy refined sugar and artificial sweeteners. Let’s build a massive pipeline to transport that sweet Vermont goodness all across the U.S.”

Allow low-income families to hunt urban wildlife

“Who likes invasive species taking over our metropolitan areas? Nobody. Who likes clean cities, empowering the poor, and creating a cycle of self-dependency? Everybody. There’s no reason why low-income families should be prevented from hunting and consuming the natural urban wildlife including pigeons, squirrels and stray cats.”

Stand up for the right to be confused. Join the Green Tea Party and help to get Sen. Bernie Cruz elected in 2016.


procon

(15,805 posts)
58. There's good satire, and there's bad.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:50 PM
Oct 2015

This is not an example of good satire because there is no apparent subjective or visual correlation other than a negative portrayal of gender. If you don't like someone just leave out the dissociated photoshopped insults and try to make your case as best you can with words. There's no payoff in wasting time trolling the internet searching for ways to demean people who think differently than you; after seeing your attempt at humor they'll still not agree with you.

I suspect that if you had tried to make the same goofy assertion verbally, that Clinton somehow resembled a corseted and tattooed goth vixen, the response would not have generated the same satisfying attention, yeah?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
68. It's social commentary on how women make 77 cents on the dollar compared to their male counterparts.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

Quit jerking your knee and think about it for a moment.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
43. I think you missed that they are making fun of the wage gap
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:30 PM
Oct 2015

You may not find it funny, but it's no more serious than the Lil Rascals he-man woman haters club.

procon

(15,805 posts)
62. And the wage gap is between men and...what?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:12 PM
Oct 2015

Turtles?

C'mon, are you really going to hold up the societal mores depicted in 30s films as comparable to what's acceptable today? Not that the focus is centered on wages, but think about how long women have been fighting just for simple equality, and we're still not there yet because getting this same damned stuff everyday.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
69. We’d like to have women write for us, really.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

"Our team consists only of men. We’d like to have women write for us, really. It’s just that we’re so cash-strapped that we’d only be able to pay them 77 cents for every dollar the rest of us earn."

I see no reference to turtles.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
72. Wait...I get it! You don't understand what "goth" is, right?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:17 PM
Oct 2015

This isn't about 18th century clothing, people wear this style of clothing in the 21st century. It isn't even about women, as as this photo of a "Goth" male in corset ( and that's NOT satire) can confirm:



In a nutshell, you're drawing gender biased conclusions about presumed comparisons between two societies, separated by three centuries, and connected only by a clothing style.

Wow.



procon

(15,805 posts)
75. Catch up.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:22 PM
Oct 2015

I've already denounced those who were using clothing as their bête noire.

Is there a Dead Horse Society membership drive?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
76. OK. So explain your comment
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:45 PM
Oct 2015

"societal mores depicted in 30s films"

If you're not referring to societal mores as depicted by clothing, are you referring to societal mores as depicted by a wage gap? That hardly makes sense. The wage gap in the '30s was about 55 cents to the dollar, not 75 cents, so you weren't referring to that...

Were you referring to the fake quotes? The makeup? The 4H club? What?

Help me catch up, because your post could use some clarification.


procon

(15,805 posts)
78. If clarity was a genuine concern, there was a time to ask,
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:21 PM
Oct 2015

but that opportunity was replaced a bit of gratuitous snark. Make of it what you will, or not, it was your choice not to engage in a civil dialog and that's how it will remain.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
26. Hate Hate hate
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:05 AM
Oct 2015

Why always the word hate hate ?

I would not in a million years vote for Clinton but I certainly don't hate her. I just don't care for how she behaves, what she says. I don't trust her... etc etc..

That photoshop job is pretty funny, actually.. and pretty spot on. It is called satire. And satire is based on truth.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
65. I know it seems alien, but some of us are actually capable of laughing at jokes.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:18 PM
Oct 2015

My first response, and I say that as a Bernie guy, was "I wonder what Bernie would look like as a goth?" Even more silly looking.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
19. I thought it was amusing, even being a Clinton supporter
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:12 PM
Oct 2015

I like the made up quotes, too.

Seemed to be more in good fun than anything else, to me.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
20. Thanks, that's the spirit I wanted to bring
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:16 PM
Oct 2015
“Bernie, Joe , Martin , Larry , they’re all dead, but they don’t even know it yet,” she said. “Even worse, they are mundane. They bore me.” "


C'mon folks... that's funny shit

MH1

(17,600 posts)
88. "Bernie, Joe , Martin , Larry " - that's BETTER than funny -
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 09:42 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie
Joe
Martin (O'Malley)
Larry (Lessig)

The fact that she didn't bother with "Linc" (Chafee) and "Jim" (Webb) is great. The fact that she included Larry Lessig, ROCKS.

I need to check out that website. Someone's smarter than the mainstream media wants us to be.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
28. Mabye you can hale a little talk with 'workingclasszero.' :>))
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oct 2015

I certainly wouldn't get all bent out of shape either with some good, creative satire of Bernie, WHOM I support.


Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
34. I always try to have a sense of humor about these things
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:22 AM
Oct 2015

No need to take the campaign seriously all the time.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
22. The first thing I thought of was
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:30 PM
Oct 2015

the South Park Goth kids:

/revision

This is good satire. O'Donoghue-era SNL or heyday of Nat Lampoon level.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
24. As a woman, I don't think that's funny....
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015

..even if they put Bernie in a black wig and tattoos like a Justin Bieber to appeal to the younger audience, that too wouldn't be funny. It's ridiculous.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
25. OK. Don't see what your being a woman has to do with this...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 10:52 AM
Oct 2015


but regardless, thanks for the kick

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
50. It appeared to polk jokes on Hillary as a woman,
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:21 PM
Oct 2015

unless you are saying that wasn't the intention of the OP.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
55. Polk jokes?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:36 PM
Oct 2015

I haven't heard any good Polk jokes in a long time!



Some of the skits on SNL when Polk was running were hilarious.

procon

(15,805 posts)
27. That's kinda what my first impression was too.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oct 2015

I don't want to see any of our Democratic candidates portrayed as Republican stereotypes. This photoshopped effigy of Clinton reminded me of those nasty pictures of Obama as a witch doctor or in whiteface. It's the kind of cheap, lowbrow, misogynistic and sexist humor I would expect to come from Republicans, so it's somewhat disconcerting to see Democrats so gleefully diving into that same fever swamp.


procon

(15,805 posts)
36. Considering the source clearly boasts that is their point of view;
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:23 AM
Oct 2015

"Our team consists only of men. We’d like to have women write for us, really. It’s just that we’re so cash-strapped that we’d only be able to pay them 77 cents for every dollar the rest of us earn."

Feel free to join them.

I can't.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
40. That is clearly a dig AGAINST wage inequality
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:00 PM
Oct 2015

Admit it...you like this satire stuff and you're trying to jump in head first, right?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
44. I don't either and I'm female.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:36 PM
Oct 2015

They were satirizing her want to appeal to young voters - of any gender.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
47. As a woman I think it's hilarious.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

I would love to see one with Bernie with black hair and tattoos.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
53. Bernie with black hair and tattoos....still not funny.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:28 PM
Oct 2015

I guess some people just need somebody to laugh at. Bernie and Hillary are both serious-minded people and I'd like to see us respect the people in our party and stop acting like republicans. They don't need any help.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
39. I'm sitting in an Enoteca in Rome, having a glass or two of wine..
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

When I get back tomorrow, I'll decide if I want to attend a dinner with President Obama.

Another photoshopped picture of our next President? Meh...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. Meh
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:24 PM
Oct 2015

Not even all that offensive.

I thought it was going to be something sexist, as Hillary's "Look" is only going to come up for a female candidate.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
59. Yeah, but maybe not so much in a corset and ripped clothes.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:54 PM
Oct 2015

Whatever floats yer boat, I guess, but I really don't see any purpose in portraying her this way other than to demean her. Maybe to make her look more like a super villain? It's easier to hate someone once they are dehumanized.

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
63. Ahhhh satire predicated on misogyny.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

Does he also photoshop President Obama to resemble an ape and call it satire? Misogyny and racism hiding behind the shield of satire is nothing new...but it is disgusting and cowardly.

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