~*Official Debate Thread for all DUer's.*~ Let's just talk about this live!!

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You read the topic title. All are welcome. Let's just hash this out and enjoy the show.

NEW THREAD, LETS KEEP OUR DIAL UP USERS INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251674277

[HooptieWagon]

2. Well, off to a great start with reply #1.

They got zapped quick.

[retrowire]

4. Yeah wow

In the meantime what a dramatic intro!

BERNIE SANDERS THE SURPRISE THREAT. YESSS

[phylny]

5. Ticked me off that CNN got it wrong from the start, saying Bernie is a

"self-described Socialist."

They forgot "Democratic Socialist."

[HooptieWagon]

7. That was intentional.

They had to get the red-baiting in first thing.

[restorefreedom]

3. hilarious tweet from david corn

David Corn
25m25 minutes ago
David Corn ‏@DavidCornDC
I hear Anderson Cooper's going to try something new: just stare at candidates silently until they get so uncomfortable they talk. #DemDebate

[retrowire]

6. And here they are!

DDD

Bernie's cheers muted the mics! Louder than Hillary. Nice respectful handshakes.

I love how Bernie stands and waves! Love that man!!!

[demmiblue]

8. Leaning Sanders, but want to hear from O'Malley.

I am glad you started an all-inclusive thread.

[retrowire]

12. Oh no problem. :) n/t

[Marty McGraw]

318. For all With Limited Bandwidth

There's always an 'Audio Only' Version available

http://tunein.com/radio/CNN-s20407/

[Robbins]

9. well

the DNC couldn't stop good applause for bernie.

[retrowire]

10. Agreed! Bernie's cheers had a rock concert scream and it muffled the mics. Yep.

[jwirr]

11. Guess I'll check in here.

[retrowire]

14. Welcome! n/t

[demmiblue]

13. Oy!

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. Very excited and pleased to cheer Bernie on.

[retrowire]

20. Me too friend.

And we're back from commercials!

[mvd]

16. I'm here. It's nice to see sane people - couldn't bear to watch the Repukes

[griloco]

113. I prefer to think of them as ReKochans as they care not for the Public n/t

[oberliner]

17. All this hype and all these commercials are annoying

It really is just a TV show (aka a platform to sell crap to people).

[Auggie]

19. +1

[uppityperson]

18. k&r

[retrowire]

21. We're back from commercials!

We're getting started! This is so intense!!!! Webb looks like he's constipated.....

[Marty McGraw]

321. Webbed up colons

can be an issue of great discomfort as the years go by

[last1standing]

22. Ugh! CNN is treating the debate like a pro-wrestling match.

The Front-Runner and the Surprise Threat?

I'm embarrassed for ALL of our candidates. They deserve far better.

[oberliner]

26. Yes it is really annoying

Sometimes I wonder if CNN was always like this or if it is a relatively new phenomenon.

[Todays_Illusion]

330. CNN Founder, Ted Turner is libertarian, CNN remains libertarian, They gave O'Malley a big boost.

I call O'Malley a stealth lefty libertarian, he hit on some of the topics libertarian organizations attack liberals / Democratic for.
also this big page woo hoo for O'Malley.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/politics/omalley-clinton-iraq-libya-foreign-policy/index.html

[restorefreedom]

23. chafee is sounding good!

confident and strong

[retrowire]

27. agreed! Good work so far. Good showing.

Kind of trained feeling though.

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. Yes, really great job pointing out his extensive levels of experience.

[frylock]

80. Great answer about not changing his views..

the party left him.

[restorefreedom]

87. it was

but the block of granite might hurt him if taken wrong

[oberliner]

24. Kinda feel sorry for Chafee

Not happening for him.

[Feeling the Bern]

31. I have a lot of respect for Chafee.

[oberliner]

38. I do too

I just don't think he is going to be a viable candidate.

[retrowire]

25. Nice introduction from Chafee

But why is he smiling with every word. Is that just his mouth?

[Feeling the Bern]

28. Linc just took a gentle swipe at HRC in his intro.

I've had no scandals.

[retrowire]

29. Webb not so smooth in delivery. sounds like he's tripping over words. lots of pauses and uhhhs n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. Yes, a bit nervous, I imagine. Don't blame him!

[retrowire]

34. I don't. I understand. n/t

[restorefreedom]

33. came right out about campaign reform though

sounds good on substance!

[retrowire]

35. agreed! n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

39. Yes, that was good to hear. I think we can look forward to some good policy comparisons tonight.

[Feeling the Bern]

37. O'Malley sounds like he is begging.

[retrowire]

36. O'Malley is very poised and trained.

Very direct and well spoken. Can't fault him for that. This debate will do him good.

EDIT: Notice O'Malley is making TONS of eye contact with the camera. He's meeting America as much as he can. Good tactic.

[spinbaby]

55. He did well

Webb came off kind as of dull with that endless description of his family.

[2naSalit]

40. My first time

watching while participating in an online discussion.

I would first like to ask if anyone else watching online is getting the "slate" about a commercial break that never comes back to the program without reloading the page?

Other than that, I'm waiting for substantial dialogue before commenting.

And thanks for the thread!

[retrowire]

41. BERNIEEE!!

Wooo!!!

HE's keeping it real. Still has his fire and ambition. Not saying it with smiles. Thank you Bernie, THANK YOU.

He's the first to almost get applause in the middle of his intro!!!! TWICE!!!!

YESSS

[Javaman]

42. Bernie comes out swinging! :) nt

[GreenPartyVoter]

49. Boom!

[frylock]

43. Straight fire from Sanders

[Feeling the Bern]

44. I love Bernie's fire!

[restorefreedom]

46. bernie is rocking the joint! nt

[Robbins]

52. I love this

he hit it up and running.he is one that made his introduction on issues not about him/her self.

[restorefreedom]

45. 4 for 4 so far

all good intros. hillary coming up

[Feeling the Bern]

47. Talk to the camera, HRC.

[Motown_Johnny]

48. Bernie didn't tell us about his Grandparents?!?!? WTF?

Doesn't he know the drill?

[kath]

53. Yeah, really.

[BuelahWitch]

56. I know or how many kids he has

and what they do! What's up with that??!!

[One Man Stands Alone]

50. Hillary already shot herself in the foot.

"sharing profits with the workers" - yeah, which workers?

[WinkyDink]

59. "sharing profits" with the INVESTORS is our inescapable reality, and she well knows it.

[WinkyDink]

51. Thank you!

[retrowire]

54. Here's Hillary.

This is why she doesn't excite me. It's the same Hillary. The same message, same delivery method. :/

Good message, most of it borrowed from Bernie, but that's my opinion.

Hillary and Bernie are the only ones to get applause in the middle of their intros.

[Fawke Em]

57. Gender Card.

Ugh.

[retrowire]

58. I'm kind of turned off by Hillary's use of "the first woman president" line.

If I win, we can tell our grand daughters they can be president.

Barack didn't say "We can tell black people they can win too."

[Javaman]

60. her comes hillary's new slogan, "yeah, me too!"nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

61. Now the Hill copied Bernie's Family Leave policy and raising the minimum wage policy

She has no shame

Getting called on her TPP FLIP FLOP

[Javaman]

62. rooting in her values? they seem to change a lot. what will they be next week? nt

[Fawke Em]

78. What day is it?

[Feeling the Bern]

63. You're a progressive, Hillary? Since when? DLC much?

[WinkyDink]

64. Plans and policies aside, HRC simply doesn't have---to my ears---a pleasant speaking voice.

[retrowire]

65. right out of the gate

Hillary, why do you flip flop?

She jumped around it with the defense of (paraphrase) "I never ABSOLUTELY committed myself to those views."

Wow.

Nobody cares about your grandfather's job Hillary.

"I'm a progressive! But I'm a progressive that gets things done."

:/

She really is... bending words.

[Javaman]

66. only a "progressive" when standing next to Bernie. The real progressive. nt

[joshcryer]

67. Anderson Cooper ain't fucking around.

[WinkyDink]

72. Makes it worthwhile!

[Javaman]

68. Bernie is no bullshit. :) nt

[WinkyDink]

75. And that, mon ami, is his HUGE advantage. He is and sounds REAL.

[itsrobert]

69. Clinton had best opening remarks

Bernie sounds angry in his tone.

Undecided voter.

[WinkyDink]

79. "Angry"?? AND WTH NOT, looking at the top 1% and Wall Street??

[itsrobert]

81. Bernie sounding like an angry man

He may be sincere, but his tone is angry.

[WinkyDink]

90. No, it is not.

[itsrobert]

96. That's my opinion

Disregard it if you must.

[WinkyDink]

118. The thing is, "tone" CAN be defined; happens every day in English class.

[NJCher]

329. anger

We need anger. People who know what is going on are angry. If Sanders was angry, it's appropriate and necessary.

Oh and, uh, I'm angry. As the old saying goes, if you're not angry, you're not paying attention.


Cher

[riderinthestorm]

98. He sounds passionate and energized. O'Malley sounds like he's asleep nt

[Javaman]

70. Bernie kicking ass. nt

[oberliner]

71. Anderson is so smarmy and annoying

Hard to even listen to him.

This is not a real debate. CNN is the pits.

[Fawke Em]

84. I don't think so. He's asking the toughest questions for

each candidate and I appreciate that.

[oberliner]

99. How many people on this stage are capitalists?

That was a dumb question.

[in_cog_ni_to]

73. He explained Democratic Socialism

Finally

[Robbins]

88. bernie is doing great

he isn't taking shit.he makes it on issues.

Clinton went after him slightly after anderson went after him on socialism.

she continues to be phony and make it about her.bernie is making it about us and the issues.

[Javaman]

74. Hillary running interference for her corporate donors. nt

[Feeling the Bern]

76. Bernie handled a gotcha question well. Hillary went from being progressive to being Repuke-lite

In one response.

[DanTex]

77. Whoa. Fireworks already!

Both Bernie and Hillary doing great so far IMO.

[WinkyDink]

86. I don't care for the boiler-plate "Mom and Pop businesses on little old Main Street" blather.

[Javaman]

97. it is boiler plate bullshit. you're right. those days are long gone and given over to walmart. nt

[restorefreedom]

82. chafee: block of granite

i can see the bumper stickers now....

poor linc

[retrowire]

83. First question to Bernie is about Socialism.

His answer is elaborating on his solid platform. He's not outright defining what Democratic Socialism is, but that could bore the average viewer.

They repeat the question. He smiles and disagrees.

Bernie goes to talking about how the enthusiasm of his campaign will make democrats win and he eviscerates the idea of capitalism.

Hillary inserts and talks about how capitalism builds small businesses. (?)

Hillary says we're not Denmark, we're America!

She's so blatantly appealing to the blind patriotic ideals that America is just fine and we shouldn't follow any other nations example... Ugh...

Bernie politely agrees with Hillary but asserts that Capitalism is fine, but not when it's working the way it is in America today.

[demwing]

93. asked and answered

Bernie seems a little nervous

[reformist2]

85. It's time that capitalism take a back seat to other systems that put people first, not money.

Hillary reflects the era that keeps trying to prop up a system that has never ultimately worked for people.

Bernie has the courage to tell us that the system doesn't need to be propped up, it needs to be changed.

[Javaman]

91. hey corporations are people my friend. LOL

sorry couldn't resists.

[StrongBad]

89. Listening on radio. Bernie sounds like Larry David.

Not a bad thing just an observation.

[Javaman]

92. you never see them both in the same room. ;) hmmm. lol nt

[a kennedy]

94. Why is Anderson being so stern......this is NOT his nature....JMHO. eom

[Javaman]

101. with Dems he can, with repukes he'd have to dumb down the questions and...

treat them like they were kids.

[magical thyme]

95. so sneaky Hill managed to steal a minute or so of Bernie's time

isn't she clever -- he's too polite to interrupt. grrrr....I really dislike people that pull her shit. grrr

[WinkyDink]

104. Cooper asked if the others weren't Capitalists, either, and she verbally responded. Didn't "steal."

[AtomicKitten]

100. Hillary's doing that bobblehead thing.

[demwing]

102. O'Malley has an unusual pace and tone

he pauses...

...in odd places

[WinkyDink]

106. AKA, "boring."

[riderinthestorm]

109. I'm listening to the radio and he sounds flat nt

[awoke_in_2003]

313. And not in a good way

like Christopher Walken

[last1standing]

103. We're seeing a real difference between Hillary and Bernie.

I like Bernie's earnestness over Hillary's smooth delivery but I can definitely see how others would differ.

On another note, Martin lost a good chance to jump in on Bernie's question but let Hillary take it.

[Javaman]

108. she's to polished, doesn't come across as genuine. nt

[WinkyDink]

110. I like what you like.

[lastone]

105. Much harder questioning vs the rethug debates

It's always the same, a miss usa style pageant for the dipshit party and real substance from the party of ideas.

[Javaman]

114. because there are adults on the stage lol nt

[retrowire]

107. Bernie has warmed up.

Excellent answer to the gun question.

Hillary is directly attacking Bernie on this. Directly.

She says (paraphrase) "No Bernie isn't strong enough on guns! I'm going to do the exact same thing as him but no he's not strong enough!"

[oberliner]

111. Fireworks on gun control

Getting interesting!

[in_cog_ni_to]

112. Brady bill vote and guns question

Explained his vote and stance

Hillary now attacking Bernie

ATTACK HER BACK BERNIE!

[mvd]

119. Sanders was fine I thought - one mistake was..

Mentioning the one D- year when he mainly gets F from the NRA. It's about the only thing Hillary has on him so she tried to be forceful.

[Feeling the Bern]

115. Honestly, HRC is saying anything to get elected. I don't believe her at all.

[Javaman]

117. like I said up thread, she's too polished.

has a canned answer for everything. nothing seems genuine.

[last1standing]

116. Hillary just smeared Bernie and lied about the law.

I'm glad Bernie is taking the high road.

[Renew Deal]

131. Chafee "believes in the second amendment"

[Javaman]

120. hillary nodding in the background.

odd bobble head action.

[last1standing]

121. Bad show, O'Malley. Using a pull on emotion to obscure the law.

That was a cheap, dirty shot that doesn't speak well of him.

[Renew Deal]

122. Sanders just went pro-gun in the debate

Something about rural states

[Javaman]

125. that's not pro-gun. that's how things are...

people in the rural areas still hunt for food. how is that bad?

[last1standing]

129. He was saying that the one size fits all law Hillary and O'Malley support won't work.

I agree.

[slipslidingaway]

138. No, not necessarily, he said there are different views in different states and if we just shout ...

at one another we will not accomplish anything.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

176. Dishonest, disingenuous bullshit. nt

[Fawke Em]

123. Trying to take down Bernie on the guns.

I just had a mad at Martin O'Malley. Yes, Martin, there is a difference between urban and rural. Duh.

[retrowire]

124. O'Malley and Bernie just butted heads.

HARD.

O'Malley had a good argument, but Bernie, I think put him in his place by telling him "I work a higher position than you, and I can tell you, it's not that easy on a federal level."

[Lizzie Poppet]

150. O'Malley's an "interrupter."

He butts in before the other person can finish and talks over them with a louder voice. I hate that kind of assholishness...

[demwing]

126. "You haven't been in the United States Congress"

Bernie just SPANKED O'Malley

[Blasphemer]

127. Sanders needs a better response to the gun issue

This debate makes that clear. I think O'Malley countered the "rural state" defense very well.

[Fawke Em]

130. I don't since I live in a rural state.

I thought it was stupid.

[Motown_Johnny]

136. Having rural areas in a state is not the same thing.

[in_cog_ni_to]

128. O'Malley and Hillary BOTH attacking Bernie on guns.

Tells me they FEAR Bernie!

[Javaman]

134. Yup. they are trying to pry open something but it ain't happening. nt

[magical thyme]

132. heh! even Hill had to laugh when Bernie explained to O'M that he's never been in Congress, that you

have to bring people together to pass gun legislation.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

133. In a sane world, Jim Webb would be the frontrunner for the Republican nomination

[Javaman]

137. LOL zing! LOL nt

[reflection]

135. I like Bernie better than Hillary as a candidate

But when I view it dispassionately, I think she's outperforming him in the debate with respect to delivery and style. I did not expect that. But it's early.

[Javaman]

139. she just has canned answers.

she comes across way too polished.

[Blasphemer]

143. So far, I agree. Clinton and O'Malley are doing well

However, we haven't gotten to Sanders' strengths yet.

[Javaman]

140. Go Bernie!! nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

141. YES! BERNIE JUST HIT HILLARY ON IRAQ!

[Renew Deal]

149. Sanders and Hillary want an arab coalition.

Not sure that's possible at this point. Several of those countries on are on all sides of the matter.

[angrychair]

142. Gun control debate sucks

Disappointed in all off them. It all sounds like double speak that will result in no real changes. Gun massacres are here to stay.

[Javaman]

144. "I did my homework!" good one! zing! nt

[Feeling the Bern]

145. Linc smacked HRC hard.

[in_cog_ni_to]

151. She deserves it!

[Javaman]

146. here comes hillary's shoulda coulda woulda. nt

[retrowire]

147. Bernie says "I'm against ground troops"

Hillary sees an opportunity: "well nobody does, nobody does,"

next moderator interrupts her and mentions how Hillary supported the Iraqi War.

Then Chaffee mocks Hillary for not doing her "homework" LMAO.

Hillary got stepped on here. She's too eager and tries to jump on others questions.

[Gregorian]

148. This is good: we're still talking about the Iraq war vote.

[in_cog_ni_to]

160. Yep...that vote hangs around her neck like a anvil

AND RIGHTLY SO

[last1standing]

152. I think Chaffee has the knives out for Hillary.

Now she's completely evading the subject of Iraq. Not good at all.

[Javaman]

153. hillary sounded very weak on the war issues. nt

[retrowire]

164. It came across as...

How do I say I'm cool with war without sounding like a war hawk???

[phylny]

154. I absolutely hate HATE to say this, but I remember the time right

after 9/11, and honestly, there was great pressure from the entire country, and in New York, to vote for the war.

I don't like the fact that Hillary voted for it (and I'm a Bernie supporter) but I get why so many did vote for the war.

[Javaman]

162. I don't. like o'malley said, he did his homework.

anyone doing even the very least amount of "homework" would have known it was bullshit to go in.

I'm not a politician and don't have the information they have and I knew it was bullshit.

[phylny]

174. You're right, I was against it and knew it was BS, but there was

SO much pressure in NY.

You have a great point. Truly.

[Marthe48]

302. Well said

n/t

[magical thyme]

201. Bernie gave them everything they needed to vote against the war

His list of I think 5 questions that needed to be answered before going to war gave them *everything* they needed to vote against it.

[phylny]

233. Thanks for your great information :) n/t

[bullwinkle428]

155. Hillary : fight ISIS over there so we don't have to fight them over here.

[DianeK]

156. chafee just now endorsed bernie!

.

[Motown_Johnny]

157. I want Bernie as my Commander In Chief.

[The Midway Rebel]

158. Iraq.

Ugly past.

[Renew Deal]

159. "Under what circumstances would a president Sanders support the use of force?"

Voted to end ethnic cleansing in Kosovo
Voted for Afghanistan

When our country is threatened or when allies are threatened we need coalitions.

Do not support "unilateral action."

[Javaman]

170. it seems as if hillary is parroting much of Bernie says.

rewords it so it sounds like hers.

just more of her, "yeah, me too!" slogan.

[riderinthestorm]

161. Maybe start a new thread retro wire? I think there are still DUers on dialup

once a thread gets to @ 150 posts, it gets unwieldy to open

[Javaman]

163. that was smarmy. "I'm in the middle here..." nt

[Motown_Johnny]

166. Playing the victim. again....

[retrowire]

167. Webb's reply.

"You got the lucky seat." lmao

[Renew Deal]

172. No it wasn't.

I think she was playing off Webb's comments.

[Skittles]

165. thank you for the non-fanboy thread

well, you did try

[retrowire]

175. We are all democrats.

We have the same goal, just different methods of getting there. No problem!

[Skittles]

181. many people say they will only vote for their candidate, period

they sound like 5-year olds

[retrowire]

185. Oh I know.

But primary season is one of high passions. I forgive it.

[Tab]

168. What is up with Jim Webb?

First, he couldn't remember his kids, then he's whining about not getting a chance to talk.

[restorefreedom]

173. he is kind of getting screwed timewise imo. nt

[demmiblue]

180. I agree. n/t

[Motown_Johnny]

178. Maybe he wants to sell more books.

He sure as hell can't be running for President.

[demmiblue]

169. Passive-aggressive smarminess.

[last1standing]

171. Hillary is far too canned.

You could tell she had practiced the O'Malley endorsement zinger too long.

[Renew Deal]

177. Why shouldn't she practice?

[Javaman]

183. there is practiced then there is too polished.

it's like she pulls out a card with a canned answer.

[Renew Deal]

190. She's the most experienced at this level.

[Javaman]

197. at regurgitating canned answers, you got that right. nt

[last1standing]

192. The whole point of practicing is not to sound practiced.

She sounds too practiced and that doesn't work well. If it helps, I think Bernie should have practiced a bit longer. He fumbled the beginning of a question a moment ago.

[quakerboy]

331. Its almost like

he is actually thinking and answering questions as he goes, rather than having practiced.

[Feeling the Bern]

179. Hillary is coming across as "how dare you slow down my cornonation!"

Her body language is one of anger, annoyance.

Webb just shot himself in the foot by going after Cooper like that. He sounded like a whiny child.

[Renew Deal]

191. You're just making stuff up

[phylny]

196. I don't think that's accurate, or at least that's not what I'm seeing, and

I'm a Bernie supporter.

[trueblue2007]

205. MY FORMER JOB WAS READING BODY LANGUAGE. YOU'RE WRONG! She isn't showing anger. BERNIE IS SHOUTING

She is not acting like she is the Queen. She is COMPETENT! SHE IS KNOWLEDGEABLE.

You know nothing except to say what your DU name is. you're a Bernie guy. I think you need to do your homework, use your head
and stop putting down Hillary Clinton, just because you can.

[phylny]

182. Is Jim Webb actually getting supporters through is performance tonight? n/t

[last1standing]

184. Bernie fumbled that reply.

He's getting better here, but it wasn't a good moment for him.

[Javaman]

186. I agree. He could have done better. nt

[retrowire]

187. At first, yeah. Seemed like he was caught off guard. I thought it was a good recovery though. n/t

[Motown_Johnny]

188. Responding to Webb was a tough spot. Just WTF was he talking about?

He waited for 10 minutes to get in on a debate about Syria and started talking about China.

[Renew Deal]

199. It's a terrible way to ask a question.

"Sen. Sanders, please respond to Sen. Webb."

Why?

[Motown_Johnny]

214. Maybe Anderson was lost too. I know I was.

[bullwinkle428]

200. Webb rambled all over the place, and then Cooper just asked "Sen. Sanders?"

I think Bernie was trying to figure out exactly what to respond to.

[last1standing]

213. He should have just made his own points.

Always have a standard line to fall back on when thrown for a loop.

[Renew Deal]

229. Agree

Webb didn't address him.

[demwing]

189. O'Malley keeps staring at Clinton

it's a little unnerving

[Motown_Johnny]

194. He may be trying to make her nervous.

[cannabis_flower]

332. Anyone else think..

O'Malley reminds them a little bit of Stuart the comic book store owner from The Big Bang Theory?

[Javaman]

193. you know what's amazing?

unlike the rebukes, all the Dem candidates are actually discussing and actually debating really important issues that effect everyone.

and aren't doing gotcha moments or button pushing trigger replies.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

195. Hillary is getting into a quagmire on the middle east situation

she doesn't give much confidence

[INdemo]

198. O'Malley is running for VP

No Doubt

[Renew Deal]

202. That's been obvious for 6 months.

[magical thyme]

209. I don't know...he took some direct shots at Hillary on Iraq.

[bullwinkle428]

212. Webb running for (Republican) VP

[RoccoR5955]

203. Webb sounds like he wants war with China.

WTF?
I am a little tired of the war topic. How about we listen to Sanders, and let the Middle East form its own coalition, and we support it. Saudi Arabia has the 4th largest military in the world. They can handle this.

[retrowire]

204. I'm glad that Webb, a former Marine respects Bernie's conscientious objector status from Vietnam,

Then Bernie personally thanks a veteran on stage. That's great class on both their parts.

[Lizzie Poppet]

230. That was an excellent moment.

Also: a good many of Webb's answers have been very well-considered.

[Renew Deal]

206. Cooper going with the draft dodger card.

I guess it's a legitimate question.

[AZ Progressive]

207. They are hitting Bernie on all his weaknesses...

You can tell that the Corporate Media will go hard on Bernie...

[Javaman]

210. I think he's doing a great job. nt

[bullwinkle428]

219. Bernie knows it - this ain't his first rodeo!

[retrowire]

221. This is a good thing though.

It tempers him, and it allows him to show exactly where he stands to the audience.

[Javaman]

208. Bernie replies are reasoned and thought out. not canned replies. nt

[retrowire]

211. Bernie straight up said it.

"Yes, I'm prepared to go to war if it's necessary."

Thank you for the clarity.

[Renew Deal]

215. Chafee just went at Webb over the Iran deal

A rare unplanned moment.

[restorefreedom]

216. chafee is surprising me in a good way

stsying on message

[in_cog_ni_to]

217. Conscientious Objector question and explanation

He was against The Vietnam War - like most young people were...including myself who watched my friends being drafted and coming home damaged forever.

[Feeling the Bern]

218. You realize that being in the military does not make you an expert on military intervention

[NuclearDem]

220. No, being a CO doesn't make someone less of a potential commander in chief.

I'm an HRC supporter, but I think Sanders and Webb both handled that extremely well. Completely irrelevant question.

[Javaman]

222. hillary seemed to fumble on the greatest threat think. she wasn't prepared for that one. nt

[last1standing]

243. I agree. Not good for a former SOS.

n/t

[last1standing]

223. Bernie knocked that one out of the park.

He's the only one looking at the long term in connection with "the greatest threat."

[magical thyme]

224. I'm glad Chafee is here. I think he's been very good.

[Renew Deal]

227. He's had a good showing so far.

[in_cog_ni_to]

245. I can honestly say, Lincoln is the ONLY Republican I have ever liked.

I wasn't at all surprised when he became a Democrat. He's a good guy.

[Renew Deal]

225. Hillary going with nukes as greatest national security threat. Sanders goes with climate change.

Not sure either is correct.

Webb is correct.

China
Cyber War
Middle East

[Motown_Johnny]

240. Obama has locked up most of loose nuclear material since he took office.

Hillary should know that. Strange answer.

Bernie has the most popular answer.

[Renew Deal]

244. She does know that

She also knows the answer was a winner in 2008.

Bernie's answer was most popular, but I don't think he's correct.

[magical thyme]

242. the Pentagon says Climate Change

a lot of people don't realise that the underlying cause of the Syrian problems started with severe drought.

[rosesaylavee]

325. Exactly!

And it's just the start... Bernie is right about this.

[INdemo]

226. O'Malley is running for VP

No Doubt

[Motown_Johnny]

234. Bernie's, not Hillary for sure.

[Motown_Johnny]

231. Climate change as the greatest strategic threat. Not nuclear materials.

Hillary lost that one badly.

[in_cog_ni_to]

232. retrowire, would you start a #2 thread? This one is getting too long.

[Fawke Em]

235. No. 1 Threat to the US: Climate Change. Bernie just kicked that one out of the park.

I worry more from storm watches than damn ISIL.

Props to Jim Webb for mentioning cybersecurity.

[AZ Progressive]

236. Bernie certainly won't get the vote from people who think we must go hard on Putin

Then again though, those people tend to be Republicans.

[restorefreedom]

238. trump just taught me a new word

Donald J. Trump
2m2 minutes ago
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
"@Achilarre: I couldn't even imagine the bloodbath that would ensue if the @realDonaldTrump debated any one of these five jabronis"


386

1,133

[ismnotwasm]

256. If anyone personifies "Jabronis"

It's Trump

[restorefreedom]

269. lol. he needs a hulk like outfit though. nt

[Feeling the Bern]

239. Benghasm here we come.

[Renew Deal]

241. Cooper asking about email...

"I did say it was a mistake. I did what was allowed by the state dept., but it wasn't the best choice."

Going at the committee.

[demwing]

246. EMAILGHAZI

Quotes Obama that this is a legitimate issue

[Renew Deal]

247. Sanders defending Hillary on email.

[bullwinkle428]

248. Okay, Hillary supporters - let's feel the love for Bernie's defense of her!

[restorefreedom]

249. bernie defending hillary on emails

and turns it to oligarchy

boom!

[frylock]

250. Heads exploding on both sides as Bernie sez nobody gives a damn about emails!

[last1standing]

251. Hillary just fucked up her email response.

"I didn't say it wasn't legitimate."

LOL!!!!! Bernie just scored big time!

[Javaman]

261. yeah that was a weird response on her part. nt

[last1standing]

272. It was an instant flip-flop.

She had just gotten done saying it wasn't legitimate.

[Feeling the Bern]

252. Best Bernie response of the night!

[Lizzie Poppet]

262. Mic drop moment!

[Javaman]

253. blows off emails, talks about benghazi then uses subterfuge to distract. nt

[antigop]

254. my god! Hillary needs to stop bobbing her head. nt

[Javaman]

255. bobblehead. nt

[RoccoR5955]

263. Maybe if she takes the spring out of her neck. n/t

[last1standing]

257. No one will get a bigger applause tonight.

Bernie nailed that one beyond all expectations.

[in_cog_ni_to]

258. Enough with the damn emails! Bernie brings the house down!

[demwing]

259. BERNIE - Enough of the DAMN EMAILS!!!

[retrowire]

260. Bernie is killing it now.

When he said that America is sick of hearing about Hillary's "Damn emails" he just took the whole floor. AMAZING.

He used that to talk about Citizens United and brought it back to the issues. AMAZING.

[Renew Deal]

264. Chafee says credibility is important

And I agree. I think his point was about Iraq more than email.

[mvd]

265. Yeah Bernie! You tell the media off - e-mails are all we have heard about

Nice, professional debate so far.

[Renew Deal]

266. O'Malley just went directly at DWS about debates.

[antigop]

274. YES!!!!! Thank you, Martin O'Malley! nt

[last1standing]

267. WOW! Saying no may play well here, but not in ads.

The repubs will crush her with that one in the general.

[Renew Deal]

275. What do you mean?

Did you get auto-corrected?

[last1standing]

281. Chaffee just went off on basically calling her corrupt.

When asked if she had anything to say, she said "no."

I don't think that's going to play well.

[Renew Deal]

282. I see what you're saying.

[Javaman]

268. how long is the debate? nt

[Motown_Johnny]

277. 2.5 hours I think (could be wrong since they changed the start time)

[Renew Deal]

278. TV says 2.5 hours

8:30 to 11. Don't know if that includes any post-game coverage.

[Renew Deal]

270. Don Lemon is on wearing a gas mask and bullet proof vest.

[AtomicKitten]

271. I lurve Bernie on the emails. Let Chafee & Webb die on that hill.

[Feeling the Bern]

273. Good response from Bernie on BLM!

[Feeling the Bern]

280. O'Malley just repeated Bernie

HRC and her husband helped make the private prisons possible.

Webb's answer seems forced.

[magical thyme]

276. Bernie's hitting some homers here!

[Daemonaquila]

279. Aaaaaand... Hillary ducks Black Lives Matter

What a disappointment. Come on, Hillary. Either say it, or fess up. Quit the noncommittal nonsense.

[Feeling the Bern]

283. You noticed that too?

[Yurovsky]

291. But she's mentioned god in virtually ever goddamn response...

if I want to hear that crap I'd get a lobotomy and register as a Republican.

[Javaman]

284. but she didn't say what she was going to do? she avoided the question. again. nt

[reflection]

285. Man, this debate is like eating a nice steak

After that cheetoh-fest that was the Republican "debate."

[Javaman]

286. O'Malley is going to be Bernies Vp. nt

[antigop]

287. well, Hillary, people could live up to their potential if their jobs weren't outsourced or replaced

by an H-1B visaholder.

[Javaman]

288. hillary's plan is better because the corporation are funding her campaign. LOL nt

[Javaman]

289. hillary, yet again,, "yeah, me too!" nt

[last1standing]

290. Chaffee has used nearly every comment to nail Hillary.

As a Bernie supporter, I can't complain about that, but it makes me wonder what the Clintons did to him in the past. lol

[phylny]

292. I want to tell Jim Webb he can have 20% of the time on the floor when he has

20% of Democratic voters' support.

[last1standing]

309. I don't agree with him but I want to hear what he has to say.

n/t

[last1standing]

293. "That's not true."

Bernie just called her out on her misdirection and he has the credibility on the subject to do it.

[Javaman]

294. hillary,you aren't helping yourself when you say you represented wall street.

aka more of the same.

[riderinthestorm]

295. Please switch to *official thread #2*. Those on phones and dialup thank you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251674277

[pa28]

296. Moment of candor. Hillary says she represented Wall Street as a Senator from New York.

[demwing]

297. Hillary - "I Represented Wall Street!"

[AtomicKitten]

314. that gave me indigestion

[demwing]

316. Sound Bite!

[last1standing]

298. Hillary sounds petulent with Wall St. response.

"I told them to stop!"

Everyone at home thought, "but they didn't."

[Javaman]

299. dream on hillary, those "bankers" you want to put in "jail" are funding your campaign. LOL nt

[AtomicKitten]

300. H to Wall Street: "Cut it out you guys."

[bullwinkle428]

304. Is she channeling Ben Carson?

[AtomicKitten]

312. 999

[Spitfire of ATJ]

301. Break Them Up!

Hillary said she went to Wall Street and said, "Cut it out."

[last1standing]

303. Ouch. "Wall St. regulates Congress"

What else is there to say?

[magical thyme]

305. uh-oh...banking is not a good topic. let's make it climate change.

sorry, Hill. it's not gonna work.

[RoccoR5955]

306. OK Clinton didn't do anything for climate change until 2009?

How about those of us who warned them about climate change in 1977?

[last1standing]

307. "I never took a position on Keystone till I took a position on Keystone"

She's getting all the airtime but it's not helping her. Hillary's got a tough job to do and she's not doing it at the moment.

I would have melted down completely by this point so I give her a lot of credit on holding up as well as she is.

[riderinthestorm]

308. Please switch to *official thread #2*. Those on phones and dialup thank you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251674277

[ChisolmTrailDem]

310. I have to say, this debate is pretty good so far. nt

[magical thyme]

311. billionaires don't send their kids to community college or state universities.

its such a simple answer. SAY IT!!!!!!

[magical thyme]

315. it's too late for re-financing. if you haven't been able to pay it, it's been growing.

in 4 years, mine has grown by almost 33% already, and my income has gone *down.*

[magical thyme]

317. cripes...I couldn't get to the end of thread #1. I've been lost for half an hour!

[Marty McGraw]

319. I will Re-Post This JIC

Because Not all of us are wealthy at times in life to afford decent bandwidth

For all With Limited Bandwidth

There's always an 'Audio Only' Version available

http://tunein.com/radio/CNN-s20407/

[Overseas]

320. Gross right wing ads during the CNN breaks. Quite disgusting.

[mr goodbeer]

322. If there's a "breakout candidate" from this debate, it's O'Malley

He came on much more strongly than I had anticipated.

[Marty McGraw]

323. OMG Webb just said

Nuclear is 'Safe & Clean'...

ughhh....

[Overseas]

324. I am so glad Hillary and Bernie spoke frankly about Republican obstruction!

So refreshing!

[Geronimoe]

326. The difference was blatant

Hillary is for status quo. Government by and for the elite.

Bernie for a Government by and for all Americans.

[OldRedneck]

327. Tonight's biggest loser:

All sorts of opinions about who was tonight's winner, but, there's no doubt about tonight's biggest loser: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY and THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES.

[Tumbulu]

328. I totally agree! nt