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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:59 PM Oct 2015

Millenials Are The Key To Democratic Success And Overwhelmingly, THEY WANT BERNIE


"..Democrats need to choose wisely this primary season. Catering to the voters they already can count on to turn out at the polls may not be the smartest move..."




Obama rode a wave of youth support to the Democratic nomination and the White House in 2008, connecting with them and motivating them to show up in November. In 2014, however, Democrats saw their Senate majority slip away as candidates across America ran to the center to appeal to the oft-cited-and-fawned-over "swing voters," and Millenials stayed home as a result.

Millenials (ie the 18-34 demographic) are the most fickle of all voter groups, and it's tough to get them to turn out. Older, mostly retired voters can be counted on to turn out regardless, but the trick to success is getting the Millenials excited. So then, who gets the Millenials excited? Overwhelmingly, the answer is Bernie Sanders.

The latest national Quinnipiac Poll breaks down favorability by age:


17. Is your opinion of Hillary Clinton favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about her?

....................... AGE IN YRS..............
....................... 18-34 35-49 50-64 65+
Favorable.......... 48% 45% 40% 36%
Unfavorable....... 49 53 56 59
Hvn't hrd enough 4 1 2 3


22. Is your opinion of Bernie Sanders favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?

....................... AGE IN YRS..............
....................... 18-34 35-49 50-64 65+
Favorable.......... 47% 35% 35% 27%
Unfavorable....... 15 24 36 32
Hvn't hrd enough 37 40 28 39


http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us09242015_ui47mfb.pdf



So while Hillary is underwater with Millenials at (-1%), Bernie sports a stunning +32% favorability rating, with -- and this is important to note -- 37% still yet to make up their mind. If the undecided voters break for Bernie at the same rate as the decideds, that will come out to a 75-24 spread for a 51% favorable rating for Bernie, giving him a whopping 52 point favorability lead over Hillary among Millenials. The age gap here is stark. Boomers may not be "feeling the Bern", but Millenials love Bernie, and it's the latter that Democrats are going to be counting on next November to put down their smartphones and show up at their nearest polling place to pull the lever.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/15/1432947/-Millenials-are-the-key-to-Democratic-success-and-overwhelmingly-they-want-Bernie
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Millenials Are The Key To Democratic Success And Overwhelmingly, THEY WANT BERNIE (Original Post) Segami Oct 2015 OP
Bernie is the overwhelming choice on my kid's dorm floor. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #1
One look at that chart Segami Oct 2015 #2
Yes, they are actually driving his campaign. He definitely has reenergized them sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #3
All they have to do is show up to vote randr Oct 2015 #4
They will Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #12
12 years ago, the youth overwhelmingly WANTED DEAN... brooklynite Oct 2015 #5
Right. workinclasszero Oct 2015 #6
8 years ago, the youth overwhelmingly WANTED OBAMA.. frylock Oct 2015 #9
He's the "moderate Republican", right? brooklynite Oct 2015 #10
No, he's the Hope and Change guy.. frylock Oct 2015 #11
He kind of left us hoping for change unfortunately Fumesucker Oct 2015 #20
Yup, he is the liar TM99 Oct 2015 #30
...and then they "fell for it" in 2012? brooklynite Oct 2015 #33
I notice you don't dispute TM99 Oct 2015 #45
No, I don't dispute that some people VOTED for him as a progressive... brooklynite Oct 2015 #46
Yes, a lot of people did. TM99 Oct 2015 #49
The sequester wasn't so moderate AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #41
Different generation artislife Oct 2015 #17
I think it's fascinating that clinton supporters' vision for victory... Scootaloo Oct 2015 #26
I've been thinking for a while that neither party wants a real landslide victory Fumesucker Oct 2015 #32
Them and white males AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #43
2015 estimate - 83.1 MILLION Millennials in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #7
Unfortunately, they are the least reliable voting bloc: JaneyVee Oct 2015 #8
Oh, you found a Republican chart lying around WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #15
Keep your fingers crossed. nt artislife Oct 2015 #18
They can be motivated to vote if they think they have skin in the game Fumesucker Oct 2015 #22
Normally, yes AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #34
That appears to be the turnout for New York City in 2008, not the whole country. arcane1 Oct 2015 #42
NOTEWORTHY: 36% of all voters "haven't heard enough" yet about Bernie... reformist2 Oct 2015 #13
Ironically, after years of bashing them for not... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #14
Repeatedly. nt artislife Oct 2015 #19
Cognitive Dissonance AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #35
I think I figured out a way to pin them down WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #39
Lots of Millenials for Bernie Facebook pages WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #16
Probably half of them link to "it's a cookbook" level snark Fumesucker Oct 2015 #21
Probably worth taking a look WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #25
Go to the polls Millenials - we didn't hover over your asses for nothing. :) polichick Oct 2015 #23
Yeah, we've been helicoptering for years and boy are our arms tired! Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #27
So true... polichick Oct 2015 #28
Bernie needs some helicopter parent outreach.. aidbo Oct 2015 #36
My kid who is old enough will definitely vote. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #47
It's one thing to vote for president......will they vote down the line for D's?? and in the off a kennedy Oct 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Skidmore Oct 2015 #29
Am I reading that wrong? More millenials view Hillary "favorably" than Bernie. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #31
No,you're not reading it wrong.nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #37
No. That's a tie, assuming a MOE over 1 %. aidbo Oct 2015 #38
You're right Renew Deal Oct 2015 #44
You're reading it right. Check out the numbers for unfavorable n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #40
It does feel like a 'young vs old school' primary. How do we coalesce the two groups? LettuceSea Oct 2015 #48
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
2. One look at that chart
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

and it becomes clear that Hillary has peaked in the "haven't heard enough" category while Bernie has room to grow across all the age groups.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Yes, they are actually driving his campaign. He definitely has reenergized them
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:15 PM
Oct 2015

with a very exciting campaign which they are very actively a part of.

randr

(12,412 posts)
4. All they have to do is show up to vote
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:31 PM
Oct 2015

If either the millennials or women showed up in above 60% figures and voted democrat it would be the end of all Republican legislators.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. Right.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 06:11 PM
Oct 2015

If you are depending on young people to vote you in well..good luck because they usually don't show up on election day.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
30. Yup, he is the liar
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:07 PM
Oct 2015

with a brilliant ad campaign of Hope & Change that so many youth fell for, well among others that fell for his Madison Avenue slickness.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
45. I notice you don't dispute
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:34 PM
Oct 2015

the fact that he campaigned as a progressive but has governed as a neoliberal.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
46. No, I don't dispute that some people VOTED for him as a progressive...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:40 PM
Oct 2015

...I recall his policy positions were never significantly different than Clinton's. I think a lot of people projected their "hope" for "change" on him and saw what they wanted.

That said, they were apparently happy to vote for him in 2012.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
49. Yes, a lot of people did.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:44 PM
Oct 2015

I was not one of them.

However, those that did expected him to be true to his words. He was not. That is called lying. The lie might have been a campaign, but why trust another lying neoliberal New Dem who will campaign as a progressive but not govern as one.

A lot of pissed off people are not planning on being duped again. I just hope it is enough to offset the horribly typical ignorant American voter easily swayed by ad campaigns, punditry, and the MSM.

I want Sanders to win, but I am not holding my breath.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
17. Different generation
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:15 AM
Oct 2015

Different times.

We are seeing the effects of climate change, most have seen their parents lose a lot during the crash of 2010, food is a large focus.


The shit hit the fan for most of America since Dean ran. It may be hard for you to understand from your self proclaimed bubble.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. I think it's fascinating that clinton supporters' vision for victory...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:53 AM
Oct 2015

Relies on completely writing off the largest individual age group in the US.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
32. I've been thinking for a while that neither party wants a real landslide victory
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:36 PM
Oct 2015

If you eke out a bare victory you still have excuses for doing what your real owners want and telling your voters how hard you are trying but the other side is just so unreasonable.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
43. Them and white males
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:21 PM
Oct 2015

No white males or youth. As this moves forward, other demographics will be thrown under the bus too as they switch their loyalties to Sanders.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
7. 2015 estimate - 83.1 MILLION Millennials
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 06:42 PM
Oct 2015

66% of Millennials voted for Obama in 2008

Millennials are the most likely demographic to vote Progressive.

Not a bad voting block to have on your side! Especially since they are the Tech generation and Bernie's campaign is Internet based.

Go Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
15. Oh, you found a Republican chart lying around
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:17 PM
Oct 2015

Aren't those abortions and food stamps?

Do you know how to make a graph, Janey?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
22. They can be motivated to vote if they think they have skin in the game
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:44 AM
Oct 2015

And having grown up in a bullshit advertising saturated media environment they are much more attuned to filtering out doublespeak than older generations.

Wish as you might, Bernie is connecting with the younger generations more than the older ones, seeing someone genuine talking in words you can parse without it making your head hurt on the national political stage is such an extreme rarity that he stands out like the Kohinoor diamond in a coal bin.

I give Bernie realistically about a 25% chance, the establishment is really going to go to full on Ludicrous Speed on the Mighty Wurlitzer against him, he and his campaign and supporters will be trudging inch by painful inch into a howling blizzard of shit. It will be far more vile than anything that was said in 2008 by any side.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
13. NOTEWORTHY: 36% of all voters "haven't heard enough" yet about Bernie...
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:06 PM
Oct 2015

..according to that poll.

That's a LOT of people who have yet to FEEL THE BERN!!!
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
14. Ironically, after years of bashing them for not...
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:10 PM
Oct 2015

Voting, Hillary supporters are now hoping they don't vote.

File this under, careful what you wish for.

JaneyVee doesn't miss a beat.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
35. Cognitive Dissonance
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:58 PM
Oct 2015

More and more, the world they see around them doesn't match what they believe in. to rectify the two, they do stuff like this.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
39. I think I figured out a way to pin them down
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:10 PM
Oct 2015

Start with the premise, Bernie dropped his bid today and endorsed Hillary.

Then ask them something about Hillary's. Every time I take Hillary to task, and I've seen it elsewhere when others do the same, it's met with a barrage of, "But, but, but Bernie said" this, that, or the other. It's like the scientific method and we need a control population. Lol

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
16. Lots of Millenials for Bernie Facebook pages
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:08 AM
Oct 2015

A few links to "What Hillary will do for Millenials" articles.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
47. My kid who is old enough will definitely vote.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

He has friends who are pumped up for Bernie, too.

He says none of his friends like Hillary.

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
24. It's one thing to vote for president......will they vote down the line for D's?? and in the off
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:36 AM
Oct 2015

presidential elections?? Democrats get killed in the off presidential years.....gotta keep the enthusiasm up for down the Democratic ticket. JMHO

Response to Segami (Original post)

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
31. Am I reading that wrong? More millenials view Hillary "favorably" than Bernie.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:13 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Hillary 48% Favorable
Bernie 47% Favorable

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
38. No. That's a tie, assuming a MOE over 1 %.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:04 PM
Oct 2015

You are neglecting to compare the unfavorable numbers for Clinton & Sanders though.

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
48. It does feel like a 'young vs old school' primary. How do we coalesce the two groups?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:43 PM
Oct 2015

The "suck it up and get in line if you want to win" generation vs the "i'm no pawn and my vote is my own" generation.

It was easier to coalesce in 2008 because the younger generation got who they wanted, any the older voters were better at coming together even after not getting who they wanted. 2004, the young vote 'did not cooperate'...and we lost.

There's something to be learned from 2004...if HRC is the nominee, I hope the establishment does better job of attracting millennial votes, as opposed to blaming them and anyone else for losing. Makes me sick when we become the party of excuse makers.

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