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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:45 PM Oct 2015

Hillary’s Turning Point, newly energized Clinton campaign hopes Tuesday’s debate signals a new phase





LAS VEGAS, Nev.—After her triumph in Tuesday night’s debate, Hillary Clinton was due for a victory lap. “Did we have a good debate last night?” she asked several hundred locals who had gathered for a Wednesday evening rally in an amphitheater here. The response was an approving cheer.

Commentators across the spectrum, liberal and conservative alike, have praised Clinton’s performance in the first Democratic primary debate, a marked contrast with the skepticism and hostility she previously faced from pundits and the media. And with good reason: The candidate who has been consistently on the defensive since launching her campaign in April was poised, prepared, personable, and energetic. Now, Clinton’s campaign hopes Tuesday will prove to be more than just one good night. If all goes well, they say, it could be the turning point that sets her on a smooth path to the Democratic nomination.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/hillarys-turning-point/410575/
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Hillary’s Turning Point, newly energized Clinton campaign hopes Tuesday’s debate signals a new phase (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 OP
Shill for big business shivors Oct 2015 #1
Thank you for your input. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #6
In your world sure. upaloopa Oct 2015 #7
I prefer to take the high road. Let us be magnanimous victors DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #9
Well I have a hard time with equanimity upaloopa Oct 2015 #20
"Living well is the best revenge." DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #22
Yes, she does like business and thank goodness because my husband works for a business. leftofcool Oct 2015 #15
Matthews enid602 Oct 2015 #28
Annie Oakley is an institutional racist and lying hypocrite. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #2
Thank you for your input. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #3
My assessment is based on Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #12
I thanked you for your assessment DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #16
I take your hand. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #21
They've gone full on demonizing her. That tells me they are scared and angry because Sanders under- Metric System Oct 2015 #14
I am committed to taking the high road and the brickbats of a million detractors... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #18
I tried to be civil about Annie Oakley. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #23
Very childish. But not unexpected. Metric System Oct 2015 #25
Anything factual Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #27
There's nothing factual about calling Hillary "Annie Oakley." Metric System Oct 2015 #29
So your beef is with President Obama? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #31
President Obama brought her in as Secretary of State. Metric System Oct 2015 #32
I believe that was her rationale Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #34
protective enid602 Oct 2015 #30
I think you are on to something workinclasszero Oct 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #3
I forget, is this Clinton version 11 or Clinton version 12? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #5
Thank you for your input. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #8
Depends on the issue. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #24
Weird, I was told her campaign was perfect whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #10
She's a hack tularetom Oct 2015 #11
The perpetually disgruntled hate this. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #13
That just means there is less traffic on the high road and more space for folks like you and I./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #19
I promise to relent, if Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #26
Mighty big crowd right there... n/t Fearless Oct 2015 #17
2500 attendees frylock Oct 2015 #43
So that's what a tenth of the Boston rally? Fearless Oct 2015 #45
Yeah, I would've expected to see more enthusiasm.. frylock Oct 2015 #55
It does feel like a major turning point. DCBob Oct 2015 #35
We will look back at the Fall of 2015 when HRC became #45. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #36
missing the "look"? DCBob Oct 2015 #37
Thank you, Bob DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #38
Welcome! DCBob Oct 2015 #40
We got a few more kicks out of his exchange. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #41
HA! Indeed. DCBob Oct 2015 #42
It seems this news has caused some of our friends on this board consternation DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #44
Yes.. they are seriously consternated! DCBob Oct 2015 #48
I thought inauguration day was Jan 20, 2017. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #49
The Fall of 2015 (now) is when she turned things around. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #50
The frontrunner turned things around? frylock Oct 2015 #54
Her triumph frylock Oct 2015 #39
"Several hundred locals" at rally. That doesn't sound very good to me. reformist2 Oct 2015 #46
I trust the crowd at her Inaugural will meet and exceed your expectations. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #47
The crowd at her announcement couldn't even fill the overflow areas. She does not attract peacebird Oct 2015 #52
Your unkind words make me sad DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #53
Wow! Hillariousness managed to attract "several hundred" to hear her speak?!? peacebird Oct 2015 #51
 

shivors

(18 posts)
1. Shill for big business
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:49 PM
Oct 2015

The only thing the debate proved is Hillary is a very polished performer and exceptionally entrenched in the pockets of big business.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. Thank you for your input.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:02 PM
Oct 2015
Shill for big business
The only thing the debate proved is Hillary is a very polished performer and exceptionally entrenched in the pockets of big business.

-Shivors


Thank you for your input. If that is your assessment there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion. In the spirit of comity I would be remiss in not giving you a big and a hope your journey is a propitious one.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
7. In your world sure.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:03 PM
Oct 2015

Must be tiresome to have to make that shit up while people are feeling good about Hillary.
By my calculations, the effort you put into bashing Hillary will slow her campaign about as much as a piss ant on a railroad track will slow a freight train.

enid602

(8,616 posts)
28. Matthews
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

I think she really made a good point about tailoring capitalism to fit the American experience. I loved it when Chris Matthews said after the debate "I think the Republicans will want to run against the Denmark guy" He got it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Thank you for your input.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:58 PM
Oct 2015
Annie Oakley is an institutional racist and lying hypocrite. n/t


-Admiral Loinpresser


Thank you for your input. If that is your assessment there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion. In the spirit of comity I would be remiss in not giving you a big and a hope your journey is a propitious one.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
12. My assessment is based on
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:09 PM
Oct 2015

researching her record, with numerous examples including Three Strikes, Welfare "Reform," and Annie Oakley on gun control in 2008. She is a chameleon by any objective standard. Thank you for your civility and peace to you, brother.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. I thanked you for your assessment
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:14 PM
Oct 2015

I thanked you for your assessment and extended my hand to you in the spirit of comity. I can not control how you or others react to my extended hand but I will remain steadfast in offering the hand of friendship and a to all my interlocutors, be they hostile or friendly.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
21. I take your hand.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:26 PM
Oct 2015

From what little discussions we have had I believe that you are a very good man and that you believe what you say. We have a strong disagreement which will disappear next year.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
14. They've gone full on demonizing her. That tells me they are scared and angry because Sanders under-
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:12 PM
Oct 2015

performed at the debate.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. I am committed to taking the high road and the brickbats of a million detractors...
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:16 PM
Oct 2015

I am committed to taking the high road and the brickbats of a million detractors will not deter me from my course.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
23. I tried to be civil about Annie Oakley.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:36 PM
Oct 2015

But she played dirty with her bogus NRA comments. She took the gloves off and the Establishment now views that as their latest opening to discredit Bernie. So I have taken my gloves off too. When she spuriously attacks the candidate with the integrity, she deserves any monkey poop I can throw at her.

I have no fear of Annie. This is a marathon, not a sprint. We will win because the truth is on our side and we have the energy to overcome her dark money and smear tactics. If she had not taken the low road, as is her wont in every campaign, I would still be referring to her as "Secretary Clinton." No more. Annie Oakley is fair game.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
33. I think you are on to something
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:23 PM
Oct 2015

Some Bernie fans really went off the deep end after Hillary did so good at the debate.

Joe getting in is not going to save them now and they can read the scientific polls showing no movement for Bernie in the south, no movement in the democratic base, no movement in large diverse states.

And Hillary is widely considered the winner of the debate and supercharging her campaign.

So of course it must be a big conspiracy because....Internet polls.

Unfortunately this kind of weirdness is going to paint Bernie as a crackpot if they keep it up.

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Thank you for your input.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:05 PM
Oct 2015

Thank you for your input. If that is your assessment there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion. In the spirit of comity I would be remiss in not giving you a big and a hope your journey is a propitious one

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
24. Depends on the issue.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:39 PM
Oct 2015

Gun control, I believe she is on about 4.0. Her only consistent issue is she never met a war she didn't love.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
52. The crowd at her announcement couldn't even fill the overflow areas. She does not attract
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

anywhere near the interest of Bernie. She had 2k in texas today when Bernie had 13k there.

Laugh on, history repeats. Hillary loses again because she is a freaking weathervane that moves wherever the polls do. She stands for nothing, except her belief that SHE should be president.

Bernie actually believes what he says. He is authentic.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
53. Your unkind words make me sad
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 08:16 PM
Oct 2015
...Laugh on, history repeats...

peacebird




Your unkind words make me sad but in a spirit of love and mutual understanding I want to give you and your associates the largest of internet s and wish you and your candidate the best.
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