the debate and polling

[ibegurpard]

The only way you could have a poll that would accurately gage public opinion on who "won" would be to have representative sample gathered somewhere to watch it and conduct a poll immediately after. Self-selecting Internet polls only measure enthusiasm and any polls that are conducted after two full days of steady media drumbeat of over-the-top Hillary pandering are tainted. This is all pointless navel - gazing right now.

[Uncle Joe]

1. I believe that's a good suggestion.

Thanks for the thread, ibergurpard.

[AgingAmerican]

2. They are withholding reporting poll results

Normally they release them the next morning. In many cases the evening of. This time, crickets.

[aidbo]

3. 4 months from now..

..people will be linking back to these comments and OPs to support one side or the other.

[HooptieWagon]

4. They did. There were several focus groups.

All declared Sanders a solid winner. Not all the focus groups were fairly represented however. The Fusion group was racially diverse, but predominantly young. The Fox focus group was racially diverse, older, and predominately Hillary supporters prior to the debate. They also declared Sanders the winner.
Every single focus group and online poll had Sanders the winner. Sanders also had the most Google activity, Twitter activity, and facebook activity during the debate. He also out fundraiser Hillary post debate. Only pundits employed by M$M declared Hillary the winner, but it has yet to be explained how 'scientific' their decision-making process is.

[ibegurpard]

7. to a certain extent.

But it needs to be larger and more representative with stricter controls.

[mr_liberal]

8. Fox News/ Luntz focus groups are biased

Everything else can be explained by the age of the participants and who tends to vote in online polls. Same exact thing happened with Ron Paul. Also something people arent considering is how many votes for Sanders comes form Republicans trying to cause trouble for Hillary.

[HooptieWagon]

9. The focus groups were democrats.

They couldn't vote more than once, they raised hands and were counted by the hosts.
The Fox group was in Florida, a swing state. 3/4 said they supported Hillary. 3/4 thought Sanders won.

[mr_liberal]

10. You people are so delusionall youre even believing Fox News

and Frank Luntz now. And online polls. The only one that is semi credible is the CNN group and that was so small and I dont know enough about it. We'll see in new scientific polls who won. My guess is Hillary will be much farther ahead.

[HooptieWagon]

11. Funny how the Fox focus group had the same result as the CNN group and the Fusion group.

And all three had similar numbers to the 2 dozen unscientific online polls. The only outliers were the M$M pundits...imagine that!

[moobu2]

5. Hillary won without a doubt and I didn't need any media drumbeat to tell me that

It was obvious to anyone who was watching. It's the Bernie supporters who are propagandizing that he won. Bernie Sanders did not win the debate in any way shape or form. And I'm always right about this stuff.

[Mad Hungarian]

6. Cut it out!

We aren't even saying anything about Bernie's "win", we're just very proud that people are now aware of who Bernie is, and are more interested in what he had to say, per analytics from Facebook, Google, and Twitter.