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restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:05 PM Oct 2015

so trump and carson are getting ss protection

but not bernie?

hillary already has it so she is ok. just heard on shep smith that trump has "big crowd rallies" and is vulnerable. hellooooooo!! anyone been to a sanders rally lately?

link...
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/secret-service-to-protect-carson-and-trump.html

this will involve a dozen agents...so they get a dozen, hillary already has protection and bernie gets squat? wtf??

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so trump and carson are getting ss protection (Original Post) restorefreedom Oct 2015 OP
WTF? azmom Oct 2015 #1
just heard on fox restorefreedom Oct 2015 #4
If it's true, Bernie better get it too, or azmom Oct 2015 #5
that will mean restorefreedom Oct 2015 #7
I so agree! I want Bernie to have it asap. juajen Oct 2015 #29
I believe it's because Trump and Carson have received threats Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #2
do we really believe, restorefreedom Oct 2015 #6
The campaigns also have to officially request it Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #8
i have not read that the campaign has made a request restorefreedom Oct 2015 #10
Hillary has it because she's the former first lady. She will have it for life Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #11
no conspiracy restorefreedom Oct 2015 #13
"The campaigns also have to officially request it" - no they don't. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #27
Link? No way Trump should be getting it. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #3
More From BusinessInsider: WillyT Oct 2015 #9
Maybe he doesn't want it. They put ropes around you so you can't talk to the people Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #12
they could at least have a couple of guys restorefreedom Oct 2015 #14
When it's clear he's going to win the Primaries, in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #15
"only eat food from places he trusts"? brooklynite Oct 2015 #17
He already stays off private planes. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #21
I know, but in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #22
I think he needs it now. juajen Oct 2015 #30
Well, while he's not a big threat to the Oligarchs, in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #31
I'm guessing you don't want him to...and neither does he brooklynite Oct 2015 #16
its not about what i want restorefreedom Oct 2015 #19
I want him protected WHEN IT'S CLEAR HE'S GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #24
I am not sure that he does not have it already. sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #18
In Virginia there were men dressed like the SS with their telltale wires from communications peacebird Oct 2015 #20
Um... are the agents protecting Trump and Carson from the public or the other way around? n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #23
bwbhahahahaha there wont be enough agents restorefreedom Oct 2015 #25
Doesn't Sanders have to formally request ss protection gopiscrap Oct 2015 #26
No, the President is empowered to grant it to anyone, no formal request is required. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #28
Actually, there is a formal statutory process for extending protection to presidential candidates onenote Oct 2015 #32
That's correct, but outside of that process the President is empowered by law PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #33
THe process by which Obama was given protection is the process outlined in the statute I cited. onenote Oct 2015 #34

azmom

(5,208 posts)
5. If it's true, Bernie better get it too, or
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:12 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:01 PM - Edit history (1)

We are going to raise hell. No way they should be getting it and not Bernie.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
7. that will mean
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

that three of the four frontrunning candidates have it and one will not.

yeah, that doesn't look biased at all.......

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. I believe it's because Trump and Carson have received threats
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie has not, as least none that I'm aware of.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
6. do we really believe,
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:12 PM
Oct 2015

threat or no threat, that some knuckle dragger would not like to do something to the first "commie presnint"?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. The campaigns also have to officially request it
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:17 PM
Oct 2015

Trump and Carson both requested it.

Maybe Bernie has received threats also. I wouldn't know because I don't work for the FBI or Homeland Security.

Has Bernie's campaign officially requested secret service protection?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
10. i have not read that the campaign has made a request
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:19 PM
Oct 2015

whatever the technicalities are about requesting protection, it looks like shit that three out of the four top candidates on the two sides are getting it in one isn't. As the pundits would say, the optics are terrible.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
11. Hillary has it because she's the former first lady. She will have it for life
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:22 PM
Oct 2015

Both Carson and Trump requested it.

You seem to be looking for a conspiracy, but there's no there there.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. no conspiracy
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:26 PM
Oct 2015

hillarys protection has been in place for sometime. But the fact that these two guys are going to get it and Bernie isn't looks like shit, no conspiracy needed. If three of the four top candidates are going to get protection and one isn't, that looks like shit and it looks like the country is not interested in protecting ONE of the four people who is likely to become the next president. And if we actually think that there is not some wacko out there wanting to do harm to Bernie,we are kidding ourselves.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Link? No way Trump should be getting it.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

I can understand why Carson would need it. Trump said he was self-funding. We know for a fact that is a lie. He could at least flip the bill for his protection at this point.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
12. Maybe he doesn't want it. They put ropes around you so you can't talk to the people
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:25 PM
Oct 2015

And for some creative speculation, maybe the Clinton's have friends in the Secret Service who might overhear some secret strategy and repeat it.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. they could at least have a couple of guys
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:27 PM
Oct 2015

hell they can dress them up like hipster millennial's if they want so they blend in. But something.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
15. When it's clear he's going to win the Primaries,
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:39 PM
Oct 2015

that's when he MUST get SS protection, stay off all private planes and only eat food from places he trusts- though any public restaurant could be dangerous.

At this point, Bernie probably doesn't want to waste taxpayers' money.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
22. I know, but
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:52 PM
Oct 2015

The SS may insist he not fly commercial - too many people. He needs to stand his ground on that. Not that taking down a commercial flight would mean anything to some people.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
31. Well, while he's not a big threat to the Oligarchs,
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:39 PM
Oct 2015

he should be alright. I just read some down-thread posts saying they think he has SS now, so if that's true, I'm happy. Though I don't see SS with him in any of the pics of him at the various airports.

brooklynite

(94,516 posts)
16. I'm guessing you don't want him to...and neither does he
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:07 PM
Oct 2015

Having SS protection means a lot more control over where Sanders goes, how he engages crowds, etc. Do you want his free-wheeling campaign style hemmed in?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. its not about what i want
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:22 PM
Oct 2015

although I certainly want him protected, at some point it won't even be about what he wants. There are currently four people who have the best odds of being the next president. Three of them are now going to have Secret Service protection. Whether he wants it or not, at some point this is going to need to be evened out.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
24. I want him protected WHEN IT'S CLEAR HE'S GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:58 PM
Oct 2015

Because there are people who don't want him to be the nominee and I'm not talking about regular citizens here. The people live him. The Establishment Elites? Not so much. They have a lot to lose and the power to take him down.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
18. I am not sure that he does not have it already.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:15 PM
Oct 2015

When I attended the rally in Boulder, there were certainly
3 or 4 guys, who looked like it. Now, perhaps CU paid for that
protection, but they certainly looked and acted like SS. I have
seen those kind of people before,when I attended a rally for
B Clinton. Also at that particular rally our bags were searched,
and we were "body-scanned".

However, that was one rally only.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
20. In Virginia there were men dressed like the SS with their telltale wires from communications
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:39 PM
Oct 2015

equipment surveying the site at UVA. Sure looked like SS to me, used to see them a lot when I lived in NoVa.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
25. bwbhahahahaha there wont be enough agents
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 05:36 PM
Oct 2015

to protect us from their craziness...

there would have to be a dedicated unit just to keep his hair from wacking someone!

onenote

(42,700 posts)
32. Actually, there is a formal statutory process for extending protection to presidential candidates
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:54 PM
Oct 2015

(a) Under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect the following persons:
.....
(7) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and, within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses of such candidates. As used in this paragraph, the term “major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates” means those individuals identified as such by the Secretary of Homeland Security after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate, and one additional member selected by the other members of the committee. The Committee shall not be subject to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (5 U.S.C. App. 2).

According to the Secret Service, criteria have been established to assist the DHS Secretary and the advisory committee in their decision making (as of 2008). Candidates must:
◦ Be publically announced
◦ Have some degree of prominence as shown by opinion polls
◦ Be actively campaigning and entered in at least 10 state primaries
◦ Be seeking the nomination of a qualified party
◦ Have qualified for matching funds in the amount of at least $100,000
◦ Have received contributions totaling $10 million

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
33. That's correct, but outside of that process the President is empowered by law
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:06 PM
Oct 2015

to provide Secret Service protection to anyone he designates.

In addition the Secretary of Homeland Security can provide early protection to a candidate
as was the case for then candidate Obama, see:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/us/politics/04obama.html?_r=0

onenote

(42,700 posts)
34. THe process by which Obama was given protection is the process outlined in the statute I cited.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 08:09 PM
Oct 2015

The secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, authorized the protection for Mr. Obama after consulting with a Congressional advisory committee that reviews security for presidential hopefuls.

It's extremely unlikely that the President would simply order protection for a presidential candidate and thereby bypass the statutory process.

While Bernie doesn't have to request protection, that's generally the process followed.

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