2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumso trump and carson are getting ss protection
but not bernie?
hillary already has it so she is ok. just heard on shep smith that trump has "big crowd rallies" and is vulnerable. hellooooooo!! anyone been to a sanders rally lately?
link...
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/secret-service-to-protect-carson-and-trump.html
this will involve a dozen agents...so they get a dozen, hillary already has protection and bernie gets squat? wtf??
azmom
(5,208 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)yeah i know, fox. but i trust shep.
and i added a link to the op
azmom
(5,208 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:01 PM - Edit history (1)
We are going to raise hell. No way they should be getting it and not Bernie.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)that three of the four frontrunning candidates have it and one will not.
yeah, that doesn't look biased at all.......
juajen
(8,515 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Bernie has not, as least none that I'm aware of.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)threat or no threat, that some knuckle dragger would not like to do something to the first "commie presnint"?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Trump and Carson both requested it.
Maybe Bernie has received threats also. I wouldn't know because I don't work for the FBI or Homeland Security.
Has Bernie's campaign officially requested secret service protection?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)whatever the technicalities are about requesting protection, it looks like shit that three out of the four top candidates on the two sides are getting it in one isn't. As the pundits would say, the optics are terrible.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Both Carson and Trump requested it.
You seem to be looking for a conspiracy, but there's no there there.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)hillarys protection has been in place for sometime. But the fact that these two guys are going to get it and Bernie isn't looks like shit, no conspiracy needed. If three of the four top candidates are going to get protection and one isn't, that looks like shit and it looks like the country is not interested in protecting ONE of the four people who is likely to become the next president. And if we actually think that there is not some wacko out there wanting to do harm to Bernie,we are kidding ourselves.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I can understand why Carson would need it. Trump said he was self-funding. We know for a fact that is a lie. He could at least flip the bill for his protection at this point.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)And for some creative speculation, maybe the Clinton's have friends in the Secret Service who might overhear some secret strategy and repeat it.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)hell they can dress them up like hipster millennial's if they want so they blend in. But something.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)that's when he MUST get SS protection, stay off all private planes and only eat food from places he trusts- though any public restaurant could be dangerous.
At this point, Bernie probably doesn't want to waste taxpayers' money.
brooklynite
(94,516 posts)Getting a little worked up, are we?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)The SS may insist he not fly commercial - too many people. He needs to stand his ground on that. Not that taking down a commercial flight would mean anything to some people.
juajen
(8,515 posts)I'm worried about him, and do not want him vulnerable.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)he should be alright. I just read some down-thread posts saying they think he has SS now, so if that's true, I'm happy. Though I don't see SS with him in any of the pics of him at the various airports.
brooklynite
(94,516 posts)Having SS protection means a lot more control over where Sanders goes, how he engages crowds, etc. Do you want his free-wheeling campaign style hemmed in?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)although I certainly want him protected, at some point it won't even be about what he wants. There are currently four people who have the best odds of being the next president. Three of them are now going to have Secret Service protection. Whether he wants it or not, at some point this is going to need to be evened out.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Because there are people who don't want him to be the nominee and I'm not talking about regular citizens here. The people live him. The Establishment Elites? Not so much. They have a lot to lose and the power to take him down.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)When I attended the rally in Boulder, there were certainly
3 or 4 guys, who looked like it. Now, perhaps CU paid for that
protection, but they certainly looked and acted like SS. I have
seen those kind of people before,when I attended a rally for
B Clinton. Also at that particular rally our bags were searched,
and we were "body-scanned".
However, that was one rally only.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)equipment surveying the site at UVA. Sure looked like SS to me, used to see them a lot when I lived in NoVa.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)to protect us from their craziness...
there would have to be a dedicated unit just to keep his hair from wacking someone!
gopiscrap
(23,757 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)onenote
(42,700 posts)(a) Under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect the following persons:
.....
(7) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and, within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses of such candidates. As used in this paragraph, the term major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates means those individuals identified as such by the Secretary of Homeland Security after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate, and one additional member selected by the other members of the committee. The Committee shall not be subject to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (5 U.S.C. App. 2).
According to the Secret Service, criteria have been established to assist the DHS Secretary and the advisory committee in their decision making (as of 2008). Candidates must:
◦ Be publically announced
◦ Have some degree of prominence as shown by opinion polls
◦ Be actively campaigning and entered in at least 10 state primaries
◦ Be seeking the nomination of a qualified party
◦ Have qualified for matching funds in the amount of at least $100,000
◦ Have received contributions totaling $10 million
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)to provide Secret Service protection to anyone he designates.
In addition the Secretary of Homeland Security can provide early protection to a candidate
as was the case for then candidate Obama, see:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/us/politics/04obama.html?_r=0
onenote
(42,700 posts)The secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, authorized the protection for Mr. Obama after consulting with a Congressional advisory committee that reviews security for presidential hopefuls.
It's extremely unlikely that the President would simply order protection for a presidential candidate and thereby bypass the statutory process.
While Bernie doesn't have to request protection, that's generally the process followed.