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Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:52 PM Oct 2015

Clinton Vs. Citizens United...yes, I said VS.

Two days ago there was an article indicating that Citizen United filed a suit against Hillary because she isn't disclosing her schedule to them quickly enough.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/10/citizens-united-hillary-clinton-schedules-214936


Then I found this rather unflattering article in Forbes (dated just last month calling her campaign faltering....not sure what standards they used for that assessment) relating more animosity between Hillary and Citizen United, which began with her suppressing an unflattering movie they were trying to produce and release about her.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeleef/2015/09/22/revive-the-sedition-act-to-salve-hillarys-hurt-feelings/


It's clear that there is no love between Hillary Clinton and Citizens United, and they have been at each others' throats, locked in a personal feud for some time:
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/08/hillary-clinton-long-time-democracy-killing-nemesis-citizens-united.html
http://news.yahoo.com/citizens-united-struggle-deeply-personal-clinton-071507658--election.html


Then there was her early campaign pledge to only pick Supreme Court Judges wiling to overturn CU,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/14/hillary-clintons-litmus-test-for-supreme-court-nominees-a-pledge-to-overturn-citizens-united/

....and her pledge to support a Constitutional Amendment to overturn CU. After all, the Republican financial windfall from this is far exceeded by anything a Dem will get out of it.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/04/14/hillary_clinton_says_she_d_want_to_overturn_citizens_united_her_super_pac.html


Hillary is committed to campaign finance reform. After all, leveling the paying field for Dems who generally pull in less money that Reps...helps all Democrats.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politics/hillary-clinton-2016-small-donor-promise/


There is so much animosity, so much dislike between Hillary and Citizens United, that the constant implication here on DU that Hillary secretly supports the organization and wishes to ensures her money flow via that Supreme Court decision, is so much bullshit.

So, for those with any evidence that Hillary is in the back pocket of CU, I would ask for evidence....because everything I've seen implied she hates them with a passion...and that type of hatred is a strong political motivator to shut them down.

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Clinton Vs. Citizens United...yes, I said VS. (Original Post) Sheepshank Oct 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #1
... ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #2
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ahh, your "feelings" on the matter don't quite equate to evidence or truth Sheepshank Oct 2015 #4
Welcome to DU MohRokTah Oct 2015 #8
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. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #10
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #11
ok, bye. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #14
BTW, people come and go here. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #15
And some don't even last a day... BooScout Oct 2015 #17
well...I suppoe we had that one pegged lol n/t Sheepshank Oct 2015 #18
I've seen references to her and the CU court ruling, not the organization itself n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #3
Excellent article. I look forward to seeing it refuted with articles and information rather than Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #5
Most extremist leftists forget what Citizens United v. FEC was all about. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #7
Well, duh jberryhill Oct 2015 #12
I Guess They Want Her Two Tie 2 Hands Behind Her Back Stallion Oct 2015 #13
Agreed!!! n/t Sheepshank Oct 2015 #16
+1000! Hortensis Oct 2015 #21
It's not just right. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #19
Me too. Hortensis Oct 2015 #22
Citizens United are the ones going after her emails. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #20
It's interesting to back track these ridiculous witch hunts against Hillary. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #23

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Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
4. ahh, your "feelings" on the matter don't quite equate to evidence or truth
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

...but of course you are entitled to them

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #8)

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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. BTW, people come and go here.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:19 PM
Oct 2015

Most of it is of their own free will.

Some will be posters for a long time, then they take a break. I've heard of breaks lasting years.

Some will post for a few weeks and lose interest.

DU is a dynamic and fluid community.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. Excellent article. I look forward to seeing it refuted with articles and information rather than
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

innuendo and accusation.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Well, duh
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:03 PM
Oct 2015

Very few people who talk about the Citizen's United court ruling have ever read it.

The entire POINT of the CU court ruling revolved around an anti-Hillary movie that CU, the organization, was producing.

That, however, has nothing to do with the allegation that she benefits from the RULING in that court case. She does. That PACs can spend unlimited and unaccountable cash is a benefit to her.

But, most of the people who participate in discussions on DU think that the CU ruling allows unlimited direct contributions to candidates, and or a number of other odd things (i.e. that it held "money = speech", which it didn't do either).

Ernesto Miranda was a rapist and a kidnapper. That has nothing to do with whether someone benefits or not from the ruling in his case on the subject of voluntary confessions made in custody without knowing waiver of rights.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
13. I Guess They Want Her Two Tie 2 Hands Behind Her Back
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:12 PM
Oct 2015

I want her to use every legal rule available to her to nominate judges to overturn Citizen United or bring a constitutional amendment if necessary. American people are strongly against the implications of Citizens United. Until she's elected you are damn right she needs to get the funding necessary to win in November

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
20. Citizens United are the ones going after her emails.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 06:17 PM
Oct 2015

Which is why it's ridiculous to see DUers posting email articles.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
23. It's interesting to back track these ridiculous witch hunts against Hillary.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 07:54 PM
Oct 2015

Every.single.time, the path leads to a RW source.

And you are absolutely correct. Those RW talking points are propagated, spread, and repeated by Hillary hating Dems, or Hillary Hating pretend-Dems.

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