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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:22 PM Oct 2015

Clinton's demeanor during the hearing is going to be a problem...

This hurt Gore during the debates and while I know she is frustrated and I know she is fed up, her looks and expressions are going to be used against her. Remember, Dean was ousted on a scream. It only takes one thing for the Media to focus on to hurt a candidate. And there is plenty of material here...

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Clinton's demeanor during the hearing is going to be a problem... (Original Post) berni_mccoy Oct 2015 OP
She's doing great. The GOP fools are looking stupid. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #1
I posted something almost identical in another thread. Tipperary Oct 2015 #15
Not sure I agree. While I have serious doubts about Hillary's positions on various policy issues, this Benghazi bullshit is a non-starter with most fair-minded voters. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #54
I do agree with you there. Most people I talk to IRL have no interest in this whatsoever. Tipperary Oct 2015 #55
The PUNKS in that room are lucky some real men dont come in there and slap em randys1 Oct 2015 #2
I think she's fine gwheezie Oct 2015 #3
She was laughing at gowdy Bluzmann57 Oct 2015 #4
I don't think that at all riverbendviewgal Oct 2015 #5
Sigh mcar Oct 2015 #6
A problem for people who don't like her anyway. That is all. nt msrizzo Oct 2015 #7
Her demeanor is perfect. DURHAM D Oct 2015 #8
Yeah,no. nt. sufrommich Oct 2015 #9
I think she is doing just fine. madaboutharry Oct 2015 #10
She's giving those fools what they deserve, and most know it. Hoyt Oct 2015 #11
She did an excellent job. Only those who dislike her will believe her demeanor is a problem. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #12
I'm not her biggest fan (to put it gently) but I've been VERY impressed by gateley Oct 2015 #22
I agree. I have a temper and I'd most likely yell back at them accuse them of doing the RNC's BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #25
Nice fantasy -- put a smile on my face! gateley Oct 2015 #28
Absolutely. People can disagree with Hillary on issues, or why she should or should not be the still_one Oct 2015 #30
Clinton's demeanor during the hearing is going to be a problem for the Republicans Freethinker65 Oct 2015 #13
I believe you are reading way too much into the demeanor thing... FarPoint Oct 2015 #14
come off your Hillary bashing high horse. She is a coming off very well, and very cool. still_one Oct 2015 #16
Boy, I've been impressed by her self control. If It were me, I wouldn't be able to stop rolling my gateley Oct 2015 #17
You watching the same hearings? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #18
Your concern is concerning for the concerned. zappaman Oct 2015 #19
it will only be a problem for the right wingers drray23 Oct 2015 #20
She's doing fine...Gowdy's tone is quite nasty & belligerent whathehell Oct 2015 #21
Man, I was thinking if I was in DC I'd put someone on the lookout and gateley Oct 2015 #23
I know exactly how you feel!....He sounds so snarly & disrespectful whathehell Oct 2015 #37
If I was his mother he'd get an earful. gateley Oct 2015 #38
Yes! whathehell Oct 2015 #41
Gloria Borger just praised her reactions. Metric System Oct 2015 #24
Naw she's fine. ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #26
Agree. gateley Oct 2015 #33
Doubtful … NurseJackie Oct 2015 #27
Her demeanor is great. The person with a demeanor problem is Gowdy. DanTex Oct 2015 #29
Hillary is one person who has been through this upaloopa Oct 2015 #31
Fuck 'em BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #32
'Nuf said. gateley Oct 2015 #35
Wrong. Beausoir Oct 2015 #34
I dunno portlander23 Oct 2015 #36
So far so good IMO. Agschmid Oct 2015 #39
HILLARY CLINTON HAS NOT HAD ONE MOMENT OF ANGER DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #40
Sorry, the intent was not to anger berni_mccoy Oct 2015 #44
Thank you for the link DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #46
Thanks for the link NCTraveler Oct 2015 #49
Except she's being propped up by the media. Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #42
She's done very well so far. MerryBlooms Oct 2015 #43
i might have agreed with you in the beginning of the hearing... DianeK Oct 2015 #45
Making republicans look like fools...... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #47
I will submit your thesis to a poll, fair? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #48
the bernie crowd is sad cuz hillary is looking so at least adequate, perhaps even good lol nt msongs Oct 2015 #50
He is a very concerned gentleman DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #51
I think you are incorrect. In fact, I think MineralMan Oct 2015 #52
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #53
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
15. I posted something almost identical in another thread.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
Oct 2015

I completely agree. She is doing a fantastic job dealing with these dimwits.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
54. Not sure I agree. While I have serious doubts about Hillary's positions on various policy issues, this Benghazi bullshit is a non-starter with most fair-minded voters.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 03:59 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
55. I do agree with you there. Most people I talk to IRL have no interest in this whatsoever.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 04:19 PM
Oct 2015

But I truly think this will end up as a bonus for her as she handles these morons as she is currently doing. A close friend of mine used to like Hillary but had recently reconsidered. She called me today and is watching every moment. She told me she is thinking again about Hillary. I hope she does, but I only listened non-committedly. I know her well enough to realize I will only get her back up lol, and she would not listen to me anyway.

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
4. She was laughing at gowdy
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:24 PM
Oct 2015

It looked like she was laughing at gowdy when he and Rep. Cummings were arguing. The rest of the world was probably laughing with her.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
5. I don't think that at all
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:24 PM
Oct 2015

I didn't notice anything . She was not happily smiling.. This is serious questioning. and the Republicans are disturbing in their ignorance.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
12. She did an excellent job. Only those who dislike her will believe her demeanor is a problem.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:26 PM
Oct 2015

Not saying that's you, though.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
22. I'm not her biggest fan (to put it gently) but I've been VERY impressed by
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:32 PM
Oct 2015

her poise and command!

I was thinking the only way I could be that cool is if I had Valium surging through my veins -- or a few shots of scotch in my belly.

She deserves to be commended!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
25. I agree. I have a temper and I'd most likely yell back at them accuse them of doing the RNC's
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:34 PM
Oct 2015

job to take out the Democratic presidential candidate. That, or take my glass of water and walk up to Gowdy and...well...

still_one

(92,189 posts)
30. Absolutely. People can disagree with Hillary on issues, or why she should or should not be the
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:38 PM
Oct 2015

nominee, but this is pure pettiness. When Gowdy believes that Sidney Blumenthal, out of the entire Benghazi ordeal, correspondence with Hillary, is the most important aspect of the Benghazi hearing, by spending so much time on it, and then selectively choosing what to use and not to use, it only confirms what mccarthy and others have said. This hearing is a political sham against Hillary.

When Lewis asked for release of the full Blumenthal correspondence to understand the context, Gowdy was offended, speaks volumes

Freethinker65

(10,018 posts)
13. Clinton's demeanor during the hearing is going to be a problem for the Republicans
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:27 PM
Oct 2015

She is in command. I am not a huge fan but am very impressed with her knowledge, compassion, and focus.

FarPoint

(12,354 posts)
14. I believe you are reading way too much into the demeanor thing...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
Oct 2015

This is her 3rd time for getting the waterboarding style treatment from this committee...We all are changing our demeanor as well listening to this torture.

still_one

(92,189 posts)
16. come off your Hillary bashing high horse. She is a coming off very well, and very cool.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
Oct 2015

It is the republicans that are coming off as assholes




gateley

(62,683 posts)
17. Boy, I've been impressed by her self control. If It were me, I wouldn't be able to stop rolling my
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:29 PM
Oct 2015

eyes and I know I'd be a snarky bitch. I'd doom the entire Democratic party, trust me.

Hillary is a pro and she's doing well. Go, Hillary!

drray23

(7,627 posts)
20. it will only be a problem for the right wingers
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:31 PM
Oct 2015

and they would have not voted for her anyway. Anybody else will see what a sham this "investigation" committee has been and how idiotic the GOP reps are .

gateley

(62,683 posts)
23. Man, I was thinking if I was in DC I'd put someone on the lookout and
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:33 PM
Oct 2015

slink into the Congressional Garage and put sugar in his gas tank. Insufferable prick.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
37. I know exactly how you feel!....He sounds so snarly & disrespectful
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:47 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe he thinks his "tone" will compensate for a lack of substantial.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
41. Yes!
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:54 PM
Oct 2015

Lawrence O'Donnell just got done commenting on how angry he sounds, indicating that this wasn't a winning strategy for him.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
33. Agree.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:40 PM
Oct 2015

And really, we're the only ones watching (along with the Republicans who are politically inclined). I just feel bad she has to go through this again KNOWING it's bullshit!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
27. Doubtful …
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:36 PM
Oct 2015

… however, a more accurate observation would be to say that people with an anti-Clinton agenda will attempt to freeze-frame unflattering micro-expressions in an effort to create controversy where none exist.

Remember how fun it was when photographers and videographers could freeze-frame a facial expression when GWB was over-enunciating and over-rounding his mouth for any word that had the "o" sound in it? It was definitely an odd speaking quirk of his, but the photos were hysterical because they make him look like a monkey-faced buffoon.

I have little doubt that Hillary's detractors will use the same techniques, and that it will be great fun for them as well. An eyes-closed freeze-frame will have the caption "Hillary sleeps through hearing". A freeze frame of Hillary looking at her notes will be captioned as "Hillary reads a romance novel during hearing". It's all so silly.

It's a fairly thin attack and can be easily disproved by the actual substance of her words and demeanor. People that engage in such behavior are obviously coming-in from a position of weakness. These style of attacks on her speak for themselves.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
31. Hillary is one person who has been through this
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:39 PM
Oct 2015

kind if shit for going on 30 years. She can handle herself. In all those 30 years no one has laid a glove on her.
I am so glad to support such a strong independent woman. My wife is much like Hillary. Recently we were told by sales agents when we were buying a new house that my wife had an attitude so they would no longer talk to her.
So many people give men credit for having a backbone but let a woman stand up for herself and woe to her she is creating a problem for herself.
I have great respect for strong women like my wife and Hillary.

 

portlander23

(2,078 posts)
36. I dunno
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

Nothing about the hearing has anything to do with reality. I'm sure if she was entirely relaxed they'd find some camera with some bad angle to make attack ads.

There will be attack ads regardless of anything she does.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
40. HILLARY CLINTON HAS NOT HAD ONE MOMENT OF ANGER
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:52 PM
Oct 2015
" HILLARY CLINTON HAS NOT HAD ONE MOMENT OF ANGER..."

LAWRENCE O'DONNELL


I AM USING CAPS BECAUSE I AM ANGRY ABOUT YOUR POST. I WOULD ELABORATE ABOUT YOUR TACTICS BUT IT WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN A HIDE!!!

PLEASE USE YOUR IMAGINATION TO IMAGINE WHAT I WANT TO WRITE...


THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.


P.S. CNN AND MSNBC SAID IT IS GOING GREAT FOR CLINTON. FOX SAYS IT IS GOING GREAT FOR THE GOP. GO FIGURE!!!
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
44. Sorry, the intent was not to anger
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

but to caution hopes against perceptions that are biased.

I've seen many good politicians taken down by much smaller minutia. MSNBC live blog on this isn't so favorable to Hillary: http://www.msnbc.com/hillary-clinton-testifies-benghazi-committee-live-blog

If what I posted angered you, I'd calm down before you go to that link.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
46. Thank you for the link
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:02 PM
Oct 2015
Mark Murray ✔ @mmurraypolitics
Clinton's opening remarks (somber, mournful) are a striking departure from the earlier heated back-and-forth b/w Gowdy & Cummings
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
49. Thanks for the link
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:10 PM
Oct 2015

"Gowdy basically suggesting that Blumenthal's propensity to email a lot makes him more important to the people getting his emails."

Clinton to Gowdy: "If you don't have friends who say unkind things I congratulate you." #BenghaziCommittee -#AMR Staff

"Rep. Cummings, the ranking Democrat, just went on an epic tirade, angrily accusing Gowdy of selectively releasing parts of the transcript of Sid Blumenthal’s testimony, rather than the whole thing. Clinton sat nodding through much of it."



A solemn Clinton: "I've thought more about it than all of you put together. I've lost more sleep than all of you put together."

Another stack of paper made an appearance at the hearing when Rep. Adam Schiff, Democrat of California, ticked through the previous reports on the Benghazi attack.
"We've gone through this endless," Schiff said.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
42. Except she's being propped up by the media.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

The oligarch desperately want her in the White House They know she'll do their bidding and fuck over the rest of us.

 

DianeK

(975 posts)
45. i might have agreed with you in the beginning of the hearing...
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:00 PM
Oct 2015

but she got better as time went on and in just before they adjourned the first part of the hearing she was the star of the show compared to chairman gowdy!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
47. Making republicans look like fools......
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:04 PM
Oct 2015

isn't going to bother progressives and democrats like it bothers you. She is doing great. There really is no other conclusion that can be formed if you are actually watching.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
52. I think you are incorrect. In fact, I think
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:55 PM
Oct 2015

her demeanor has been outstanding so far. She looks like a President, frankly.

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