2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton's demeanor during the hearing is going to be a problem...
This hurt Gore during the debates and while I know she is frustrated and I know she is fed up, her looks and expressions are going to be used against her. Remember, Dean was ousted on a scream. It only takes one thing for the Media to focus on to hurt a candidate. And there is plenty of material here...
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I completely agree. She is doing a fantastic job dealing with these dimwits.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)But I truly think this will end up as a bonus for her as she handles these morons as she is currently doing. A close friend of mine used to like Hillary but had recently reconsidered. She called me today and is watching every moment. She told me she is thinking again about Hillary. I hope she does, but I only listened non-committedly. I know her well enough to realize I will only get her back up lol, and she would not listen to me anyway.
randys1
(16,286 posts)around
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)But then again I don't hate her
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)It looked like she was laughing at gowdy when he and Rep. Cummings were arguing. The rest of the world was probably laughing with her.
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)I didn't notice anything . She was not happily smiling.. This is serious questioning. and the Republicans are disturbing in their ignorance.
mcar
(42,309 posts)msrizzo
(796 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Adjust your antennae.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Not saying that's you, though.
gateley
(62,683 posts)her poise and command!
I was thinking the only way I could be that cool is if I had Valium surging through my veins -- or a few shots of scotch in my belly.
She deserves to be commended!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)job to take out the Democratic presidential candidate. That, or take my glass of water and walk up to Gowdy and...well...
gateley
(62,683 posts)still_one
(92,189 posts)nominee, but this is pure pettiness. When Gowdy believes that Sidney Blumenthal, out of the entire Benghazi ordeal, correspondence with Hillary, is the most important aspect of the Benghazi hearing, by spending so much time on it, and then selectively choosing what to use and not to use, it only confirms what mccarthy and others have said. This hearing is a political sham against Hillary.
When Lewis asked for release of the full Blumenthal correspondence to understand the context, Gowdy was offended, speaks volumes
Freethinker65
(10,018 posts)She is in command. I am not a huge fan but am very impressed with her knowledge, compassion, and focus.
FarPoint
(12,354 posts)This is her 3rd time for getting the waterboarding style treatment from this committee...We all are changing our demeanor as well listening to this torture.
still_one
(92,189 posts)It is the republicans that are coming off as assholes
gateley
(62,683 posts)eyes and I know I'd be a snarky bitch. I'd doom the entire Democratic party, trust me.
Hillary is a pro and she's doing well. Go, Hillary!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)She's knocking them down one by one.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)drray23
(7,627 posts)and they would have not voted for her anyway. Anybody else will see what a sham this "investigation" committee has been and how idiotic the GOP reps are .
whathehell
(29,067 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)slink into the Congressional Garage and put sugar in his gas tank. Insufferable prick.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Maybe he thinks his "tone" will compensate for a lack of substantial.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Lawrence O'Donnell just got done commenting on how angry he sounds, indicating that this wasn't a winning strategy for him.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)Don't worry
gateley
(62,683 posts)And really, we're the only ones watching (along with the Republicans who are politically inclined). I just feel bad she has to go through this again KNOWING it's bullshit!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)
however, a more accurate observation would be to say that people with an anti-Clinton agenda will attempt to freeze-frame unflattering micro-expressions in an effort to create controversy where none exist.
Remember how fun it was when photographers and videographers could freeze-frame a facial expression when GWB was over-enunciating and over-rounding his mouth for any word that had the "o" sound in it? It was definitely an odd speaking quirk of his, but the photos were hysterical because they make him look like a monkey-faced buffoon.
I have little doubt that Hillary's detractors will use the same techniques, and that it will be great fun for them as well. An eyes-closed freeze-frame will have the caption "Hillary sleeps through hearing". A freeze frame of Hillary looking at her notes will be captioned as "Hillary reads a romance novel during hearing". It's all so silly.
It's a fairly thin attack and can be easily disproved by the actual substance of her words and demeanor. People that engage in such behavior are obviously coming-in from a position of weakness. These style of attacks on her speak for themselves.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)kind if shit for going on 30 years. She can handle herself. In all those 30 years no one has laid a glove on her.
I am so glad to support such a strong independent woman. My wife is much like Hillary. Recently we were told by sales agents when we were buying a new house that my wife had an attitude so they would no longer talk to her.
So many people give men credit for having a backbone but let a woman stand up for herself and woe to her she is creating a problem for herself.
I have great respect for strong women like my wife and Hillary.
BeyondGeography
(39,371 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)Beausoir
(7,540 posts)portlander23
(2,078 posts)Nothing about the hearing has anything to do with reality. I'm sure if she was entirely relaxed they'd find some camera with some bad angle to make attack ads.
There will be attack ads regardless of anything she does.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)LAWRENCE O'DONNELL
I AM USING CAPS BECAUSE I AM ANGRY ABOUT YOUR POST. I WOULD ELABORATE ABOUT YOUR TACTICS BUT IT WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN A HIDE!!!
PLEASE USE YOUR IMAGINATION TO IMAGINE WHAT I WANT TO WRITE...
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
P.S. CNN AND MSNBC SAID IT IS GOING GREAT FOR CLINTON. FOX SAYS IT IS GOING GREAT FOR THE GOP. GO FIGURE!!!
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)but to caution hopes against perceptions that are biased.
I've seen many good politicians taken down by much smaller minutia. MSNBC live blog on this isn't so favorable to Hillary: http://www.msnbc.com/hillary-clinton-testifies-benghazi-committee-live-blog
If what I posted angered you, I'd calm down before you go to that link.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Clinton's opening remarks (somber, mournful) are a striking departure from the earlier heated back-and-forth b/w Gowdy & Cummings
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Gowdy basically suggesting that Blumenthal's propensity to email a lot makes him more important to the people getting his emails."
Clinton to Gowdy: "If you don't have friends who say unkind things I congratulate you." #BenghaziCommittee -#AMR Staff
"Rep. Cummings, the ranking Democrat, just went on an epic tirade, angrily accusing Gowdy of selectively releasing parts of the transcript of Sid Blumenthals testimony, rather than the whole thing. Clinton sat nodding through much of it."
A solemn Clinton: "I've thought more about it than all of you put together. I've lost more sleep than all of you put together."
Another stack of paper made an appearance at the hearing when Rep. Adam Schiff, Democrat of California, ticked through the previous reports on the Benghazi attack.
"We've gone through this endless," Schiff said.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)The oligarch desperately want her in the White House They know she'll do their bidding and fuck over the rest of us.
MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)DianeK
(975 posts)but she got better as time went on and in just before they adjourned the first part of the hearing she was the star of the show compared to chairman gowdy!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)isn't going to bother progressives and democrats like it bothers you. She is doing great. There really is no other conclusion that can be formed if you are actually watching.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)msongs
(67,405 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)her demeanor has been outstanding so far. She looks like a President, frankly.