2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI post things about Hillary's and Bernie's postions
What they have said, what they promise and the actions they have taken. I do this to inform those who may be on the fence as to who may be the best choice for POTUS. If Bernie was in the lead I would not waste my time posting slanders by republican opponents or boasting or bragging how far in front he is. It may work lure those who want to be on the winning side but IMO it really does no good for the Country as a whole.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)such as your SSD post.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Hillary's statements on SS and on not wanted to send Trump's kids to college. Don't you remember her making those statements or it just slipped your mind?
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)just made it a point that you may be out on the street if your wife dies bc you are disabled? You are completely wrong stating that bc HRC hasn't said anything about expanding benefits it would somehow effect you. The fact that you aren't collecting benefits has nothing to do with your wife's income or HRC at all.
I know for a fact that they don't ask anything at all about your spouse or any other income you might be receiving. All they want to know is if you are disabled. I receive SSD & my pension from the military. They don't give a damn about #s.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)end up homeless and I would be if my wife left me or did not stay by my side. You are stating things you have no idea about so I'll it at that.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)your point but I do not put people on ignore. Even though people may try to hurt me on a personal level I do not believe in using that function. You never know when someone may write something that either helps or enlightens your life or point of view. Thank you for your reply though.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)part of some nefarious plot to take down hillary....that must be it.
it can't possibly be that this guy is in a tough situation and her policies, which SUCK, won't do him any good at all. No it can't possibly be that.
the desperation in hillaryworld is mindblowing.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)I understand the guy is disabled & I'm not judging him on that. All I did was point out that based on what he posted in the OP there was no reason he shouldn't qualify for benefits. How is it my fault that he left out the key fact that his credits ran out? Is it because I pointed out his failed premise? I'm sorry but waiting years to claim benefit is not anyone's fault but his & no politician sitting in the position of POTUS is going to change that rule.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but if you know the system well, maybe you could offer him some tips or you could tell him who to contact to try to get some help. And who ever is president may not be able to get him his retroactive benefits, but they surely could have something to do with what the rules are going forward and whether or not he could continue to be eligible given the fact that he is still disabled. not being able to work from age 26 until however age he is now, that's got to be a serious disability. There has to be some change to Social Security made so that he isn't left out just because he didn't try to claim his benefits when he was younger and didn't think he was even eligible for them. This is why this country desperately needs to fix our safety net. The fact that this man is worried that if his wife dies he will end up out on the street because he will not qualify for any benefits is appalling in 2015.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Apparently, it even bothers you when she talks about her mother.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=736402
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)which really does not have anything to do being POTUS. If Bernie put out an ad about his Grandparents being in a concentration camp I would say the same. Hillary put out that ad to garner votes from the trials that her mother faced. It has NOTHING to being qualified as to being POTUS if you can not see that whatever I write will never change your mind. IMO It's BS propaganda......
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)or are going through the same types of hardships. You may have picked up on that if you ever had.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)please elaborate.......
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Why you found it so offensive that you posted a long exasperated youtube video about it is beyond me.
if Hillary decided to put that out I have a right to criticize it. I would do that if O'Malley put such an ad or any of the Republicans did so. I'm treating that ad just like I would if anyone else who would put out such an ad. It's all about equality and I treat people equally. Sorry if that offends anyone. Perhaps Hillary supporters should do the same and not expect people from the left not to criticize her moves.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)And I have a right to point out that you are bashing Hillary over trivia while pretending that it's about issues and policies.
emulatorloo
(44,123 posts)bio ads have been parts of political campaigns for ever.
I appreciate your passion for Bernie, but IMHO you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
If you were to talk to an undecided voter and go on and on about how evil it is to talk about loving your mom and what an inspiration she was to you, I expect the undecided voter would be very alienated by that.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)eom
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Political ads which really has nothing to do with being POTUS and are just tugging at heartstrings is really good for the American people. LMAO whatever
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)for that reply. I just don't see how that ad really has anything to do with being POTUS but others may think it is relevant. I would not attack them for seeing it in a different light than I.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)It tells me that she is not the disconnected "elitist" that so many portray her as. It tells me that she and her mother shared some of the same experiences that my mother and I did. These life experiences make us who we are. I know that there is a concerted effort to discount women's concerns on this board, but other women know many more hurdles you needed to clear as a females coming up in the decades she is talking about. Careful in your dismissiveness. There is power in her story. It speaks the the experiences and aspirations of many women.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)but IMO Hillary is far removed from those struggles. The "elite" are her biggest supporters and donors and IMO she is closer to them at this time in her life than the struggles of her mother, women or the poor. I'm sorry but I can't help but to feel this way.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)a man's ear? I am removed now from the poverty and adversity in which I grew up. It is a poverty that shaped who I am today. It marks us all, for better or worse. Because you improve your lot in life doesn't mean that you do not remember or cannot empathize with someone or hear their concerns. I think she does this. I hear it in her voice. Hillary is human too.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)As a women, I tend to view it as a 'wow, look at me, ain't I special' ad. 'I overcame adversity, and if you vote for me, you can too'. It's bullshit, plain and simple. Many, many women will never have the opportunities that came her way. First, and foremost, she is white, which gives her a leg up. Then she is not dirt poor, or uneducated. She also looks 'normal' in societies eyes.
Women who don't fit the above pattern will find it very difficult to rise above their 'station' in life. Many women have basically worked their lives away trying to just keep their heads above water. I felt that the ad was a slap in the face to all the women who couldn't make it, even though they tried their very best.
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Nitram
(22,800 posts)Her biggest supporters are the 99%, and they are donating small sums in record numbers. Don't let your love of Bernie blind you to the fact that Clinton is a great deal more than her largest financial supporters. Romney couldn't win based on the size of his contributors, and neither can Clinton.
emulatorloo
(44,123 posts)Your post just spoke of the inner workings of HRC's mind. You ascribe the worst motives to her. You claim she can't remember growing up middle class. This is armchair psychology.
If a HRC supporter did similar things to Bernie, both you and I would be infuriated.
Again I go back to strategy. How do we get undecideds and casual HRC supporters to vote for Bernie in the primaries? I think the things you've been writing about are non-starters there, will alienate them.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)inner workings of my mind yet I don't have years and years in the public eye. They must have some sort of sixth sense. Funny how that works huh?
emulatorloo
(44,123 posts)what sorts of strategies would you recommend we undertake to get those voters to vote for Bernie in the primaries?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Poured a cup of joe and opened up du. It couldn't have been any better than this being one of the first ops I read. I now have a cup of joe and a big ole grin. Props for the comedy routine.
Nitram
(22,800 posts)Props to you!
Nitram
(22,800 posts)No, you post incessant and obsessive attacks against Clinton at every opportunity. We have all read them.
you got that right attacks attacks attacks. Never mind your Candidate has stated or taken the positions I post. It is what it is.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I don't believe that for a moment.
Sid
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)thanks for calling me a liar Sid. Keep up the good work.