2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI keep hearing "I am in a BLUE STATE!!!! My VOTE does not matter."
I will vote for who I please or sit it out.
Well I am in a Blue State too. Massachusetts.
Dayum, it worked so well for us here. Let's take a stroll back, Mitt Romney Governor. Now we have Charlie Baker. Please do not forget that the late great Teddy Kennedys seat went to Scott Brown. I am so embarrassed for my State.
So stop saying your vote doesn't matter because it does.
Stop giving away our voice.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251767012
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Everyone I cast a vote for will be a Democrat. But I may not cast votes for third way, right wing DINOs.
Sorry, I do not care to eat shit sandwiches any longer.
sheshe2
(83,940 posts)Whatever.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)having lots of shit sandwiches in the future with that attitude. And I'm not talking about just the election at the top of the ticket. How
still_one
(92,433 posts)What amazes me is why some seem feel so compelled to announce that they will not support the Democratic nominee in the general election, if it is not the candidate of their choosing.
The supposed need to bring that up is beyond me. Folks should support the candidate they want in the primaries, argue the issues, and do whatever their conscience dictates. Isn't it that simple?
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Everyone, get your ass to the voting booth for your Primary (if you have one) -- how else will you determine WHICH Democratic candidate becomes the GE nominee?
AND get your ass to the voting booth for the General Election -- even if you don't vote for the Dem candidate (that'll show 'em!), how else are you going to vote for the down-ticket Dems and progressives who need your help to get to Washingon and join Bernie and Liz, et al, or to vote for your local Dems for State, Mayor, school boards, and dog-catchers? Grassroots means grassroots; you gotta build your political revolution from the ground up.
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still_one
(92,433 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)You have to click the "..." button to see it.
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still_one
(92,433 posts)flamingdem
(39,332 posts)That's when I discovered it and others will over the next year.
I'm very happy with the support for Bernie here and think he's a great candidate. In fact I think he's such a great guy that he'll support Hillary and throw his votes to her rather that court a protest vote.
I wish DUers would show the same respect!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)sheshe2
(83,940 posts)Bernie supporters are the majority here. That is a fact!!!! We are damn well not silencing you.
Take a step back and think who are being silenced here. Women PoC LGBT BLM!!!!! Hide after hide, ridicule and disdain. No, it is our voice that is being silenced. I watch every day anti Democratic posts soar to the top of the page.
Yes, I am a Hillary supporter, yet I damn well will vote for Bernie or O'Malley if they win the general. I will VOTE!
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Thus I will indeed vote for who I please. Who that is is very much my business and not that of anyone else's on this board.
Obviously downticket races are important; staying at home and letting the GOP steal the house & senate isn't an option.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, not one of those times did my vote effect the outcome. I live in a Blue state, but if I had voted in a red state, swing state, or any other color, my vote still wouldn't have had an effect on the outcome.
Hence, I'll continue to vote for my preference keeping in mind that it's mine to use as I see fit.
ffr
(22,672 posts)I go through extraordinary effort to find out every candidates political affiliation, down to NP wards. Most candidates have leanings towards one party or the other that can be Googled. Just put in their name with the word Republican, then with the word Democrat. No Republican ever gets my vote, b/c I know what Republis do once elected; they screw the voters.
I can vote for anyone who supports Democrats or is an Independent. I also love Hillary and I love Bernie. They're both good people who would represent us well. And it infuriates me when I see voter disconnect or apathy. Those people either don't vote or vote based on what they see and hear, but not from what they know about the candidates.
GET INVOLVED PEOPLE! Voting takes thought. Put some effort behind it. Elect Democrats (that means Independent Bernie too if that's who you want to vote for) and watch the world turn into a better place.
NO
MORE
REPUBLIS!
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Cha
(297,766 posts)they're are our Democratic Base. Not those who stamp their little feet and make it about them.
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Obama walks as he holds hands with Amelia Boynton Robinson, who was beaten during 'Bloody Sunday' [AP]
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/03/fifty-years-selma-whiteness-reigns-supreme-150308085251186.html
Mahalo for your OP, she!
sheshe2
(83,940 posts)Thanks Cha~
Cha
(297,766 posts)I love them. They're woven into the pattern of our Democratic Principles.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Out of 50 states we don't even have 20 Democrats as governors anymore. The last time we LED in the number of governors was 2009. At the beginning of next year my state will have had a Democrat for 29 years. So I ask you what the fuck is wrong with the party?
Our "voice" is but a cog in the wheel called Washington DC where money buys everything, most of all politicians from BOTH sides. If we don't get money out of politics, elections are going to not matter much anymore. How about starting to talk about that for a change instead you and your friends playing hall monitor?
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)The Democratic Party apparatchiks are more than happy to keep liberal Democrats out of primaries. Until earlier this year, we had a decent Democratic governor, but he couldn't run again because of term limits. One of the people who was seeking the Democratic nomination for governor was a man who had previously served as lieutenant governor. But the party apparatchiks decided that they'd rather have Bill Clinton's former driver be the nominee. So they pushed out the former lieutenant governor in favor of Bill Clinton's former driver before there was even a primary and voila! we lost the governorship by a large margin.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)And brings up yet another problem, favoritism and nepotism by one group or another within the party. We have got to start getting back some of these seats on the state level as there is a lot to lose. The wackjob Republican governors are trying to shutdown Planned Parenthood, cut essential services, etc. and it's only going to get worse if more Scott Walker types are elected.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)I remember Coakley being steamrolled to the nomination and then being the worst candidate ever.
People need to want to vote for a candidate to get them to the polls. Not many people wanted to vote for her. That's why people know who Scott Brown is.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Simply because he said he would push for the death penalty while the (D)emocrat said he would not. Once he got finished screwing up the state it was a landslide victory for the next (D) to regain control of the state.
Take nothing for granted.
Renew Deal
(81,881 posts)Technically you only need the electoral college, but he popular vote goes a long way towards legitimacy.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I will vote for democrats. It's not a wasted vote.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I've been mulling over starting a thread about this but anticipated unhinged, reactionary retorts. So I didn't bother.
Simply put, if you opt not to vote because you're in a "safe" state - or district - you're letting other people do your work for you. Were it not for them, it wouldn't be "safe".
It's ineffectual, selfish and lazy. And fraught with potential distaster should enough "others" adopt your corrosive attitude.
CheshireDog
(63 posts)Tons of uneducated people worried about autism and vaccines don't vaccinate their child because, hey, mumps and measles aren't common. They think their child will be safe thanks to herd immunity...the other parents DO vaccinate their child, and they depend on them to protect their child.
It doesn't work when this mentality becomes common - then there is no herd immunity. Suddenly no one is protected and diseases spread like wildfire. The same is true with voting - even in a safe blue area, if multiple people think the district is safe and don't vote then suddenly that "herd vote" doesn't work anymore and the district isn't so safe.
So, vote. (and vaccinate!)
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)and my vote will not matter for the top of the ticket
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Others here are saying they will vote Independent or write in a vote instead of voting for another corporate Democrat, but will vote down ticket for other liberals and/or Dems.
Not sure what you're on about, but no one is NOT voting.
K and R.
I don't understand those posters at all.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)and that does afford me the latitude to vote my principles.